Subject: All I have the old Stu trait of being jacked. (nm)
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Posted on: 2018-05-24 13:43:00 UTC
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Suvian Traits in Real Life? by
on 2018-05-23 19:38:00 UTC
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Not necessarily inherently Suvian traits, but physical traits that 'Sues tend to have to make themselves more specialer, like funny birthmarks or naturally silver hair. It's generally a bad idea to give a fictional character more than one of these (or any at all, depending), but the thing is that they do sometimes happen in real life.
For example, I have a bright red birthmark over my right eye that was only visible when I was angry until I was about seven. At that point we thought I'd grown out of it but I recently discovered that if I'm angry enough it still can make an appearance.
I know a woman who has auburn hair with a natural streak of white in it. She looks just like Anna from Frozen. She dyes it, because she's tired of people asking her if she's trying to be Anna from Frozen.
I also know an entire family whose eyes appear to change with their mood. They mostly just cycle through shades of green and brown. (I don't think the color actually changes, but it sure looks like it does!) At least one of them has eyes that get so bloodshot when she's angry that they look like they turn red. She was usually my babysitter growing up, and believe you me, nothing makes you want to sit down and shut up like your babysitter's eyes turning red.
If I saw any of these traits randomly appear on a (human) fictional character, I'd be on the lookout for a 'Sue. But they're actually super interesting and unique on real people. Do you guys have any stories of weird but sort of cool physical features that you would never give your OCs? -
I'm not that suvian... by
on 2018-05-30 05:05:00 UTC
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But I do have long, wavy, luxurious red hair. I've gotten a lot of compliments on it from random strangers. Also, neither of my parents are redheads (Okay, mom was a redhead, but her hair has since gone blonde, much to her frustration as now nobody can tell I got the gene from her).
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My friend called me a Mary-Sue for a while IRL. by
on 2018-05-25 05:32:00 UTC
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Don't remember for how long, but part of a year in high school, at the very least. I assume it was mostly non-physical reasons that prompted it, mostly, so I won't go through those, but two things (one which makes for a good anecdote and the second that's just plain too classic not to share):
I never had braces, unlike a *lot* of my classmates (so many, in fact, that I have a fair idea of what living with braces is like anyway just from listening to them!)
I get along well pretty quickly with most animals, and always have. Often works with people, too--I make the acquaintance type of friend very easily if I get to the point of conversation.
That's not to say I'm perfect, and I spent probably a good few hours total trying to convince her that I wasn't a Sue, but there you have it. If I wrote myself as-is (ie, not as Dawn) into a story and didn't show the flaws, I could probably get a Sue pretty easily. It'd be the type of Sue who's relatively harmless but very, very obviously needs more balance. I'd like to think I do have that balance (despite the fact that almost-out-of-university!me has even more Sue traits, without really having lost most of the earlier ones), but, well, not quite the idea of this thread, is it?
(For more detail on how far from me Dawn is by now, and how far from me she was when I came up with her, go ahead and ask. Believe me, I'm more than willing to talk about this, and it'll probably make it into an a/n sometime even if no one asks me here--there actually already is something of the sort in an unfinished interlude wherein she visits her family. No idea when that's ever going to be finished, though.)
~Z, who also keeps being told she has a good singing voice despite a general lack of training. What a world we live in! Then again, Sues do have to come from somewhere, and I could see one part of it being just looking at people, especially celebrities and some classmates, and only seeing the best, most talented parts... -
*pay no attention to the second "mostly" outside the curtain by
on 2018-05-25 05:36:00 UTC
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Woke up three hours earlier than intended and haven't tried getting back to sleep quite yet, so my proofreading skills are apparently not properly awake yet either...also on mobile, so pray excuse any typos I haven't caught as well. I don't see anything blaring right now, but you never know.
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Re: Suvian Traits in Real Life? by
on 2018-05-25 05:10:00 UTC
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A term i like to use for sues' lack of brains is "sue-pidity"
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Gifted and Talented over here! (nm) by
on 2018-05-25 01:12:00 UTC
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Perhaps I am a Stu in disguise. by
on 2018-05-25 00:09:00 UTC
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Argument that I am in fact a Stu, and not a person, in a couple points.
1. I fit in everywhere I go.
(Or maybe I just feel like I do!)
I've studied acting and theatre for many, many years. I've also studied some psychology! I was an outcast through elementary and middle school, and I was horribly awkward and unsociable. Thus, I joined the local theatre programs near me, and I learned how people act like people. I also made a lot of good friends, and a lot of good tips on how to adapt to whatever situation I'm in, and how to make friends with (or mortal enemies with) near strangers, in about 10 minutes. I've fit in everywhere I've been to and made great friends, and haven't particularly stuck out like a sore thumb anywhere for the past couple of years.
2. I'm extraordinarily beautiful.
I'm very vain, wake up with great hair, and have never gotten acne.
(My ego talks here.)
3. Physical skills!
I'm strong, I'm fast, and I have a lot of endurance for being both strong and fast for long periods of times. I don't work out often either.
I'm tall and skinny, about 100 lbs. This is generally bad for people, but after long talks with my doctor making sure I'm getting the amount of nutrition I'm getting (I eat four meals a day when I can) it's just my fast metabolism, and not a major issue right now in my life.
Points against me being a Sue:
1. I make a lot of mistakes. I'm certainly not perfect at everything I do.
(2.?) I'm nonbinary. I don't think nb sues exist, and if they do, I have never seen one! (But if they do, please send proof! Also, what is the term for an nb Sue? Is there one?) -
I've seen "Airy Ooh" used for nb Suvians. by
on 2018-05-25 01:12:00 UTC
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But yeah, they don't usually come up unless the author is nb themselves, or super liberal, or something like that. Or maybe when the Sue is part of a genderless race and the author somehow didn't forget that the race is genderless.
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Or just... 'Suvian'? (nm) by
on 2018-05-25 06:51:00 UTC
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That works too. (nm) by
on 2018-05-26 23:53:00 UTC
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Maybe not quite Sueish, but . . . by
on 2018-05-24 15:03:00 UTC
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There's a particular radio in the Small Mammals building. If it's tuned in to a station and I walk too close, my body somehow reduces the transmission to static. It's only that radio, though.
I hadn't really considered this until I read Neshomeh's post, buuuuut I kind of can eat anything and stay thin. I'm maybe not super thin—130 pounds roundabouts—but the unavoidable physical activity of my job, coupled with a naturally high metabolism, mean that I eat and eat and eat and don't gain weight. While most of my coworkers bring one thing for lunch and spend the rest of lunch break talking or on their phones, I stuff a backpack full of foods and spend the whole break cramming stuff down my throat, because if I don't get enough food down, I wind up getting weak with hunger by the end of the shift. (And while I should hypothetically have a thirty-minute lunch with two fifteen-minute breaks during the rest of the day, the zookeepers in the past collectively decided to fold the whole hour's worth of break time into the lunch break so we can spend more time together. Which is a lovely sentiment, but it also means that if I get to lunch on time, I have no time left to eat later in the day.) The food I eat is mostly meats, cheeses, and carbohydrates. Oh, and actual junk food like gummy bears, Twizzlers and chocolate, because my metabolism is so fast, it basically doesn't matter. My pre-shift breakfasts are also ridiculous—either a big bowl of spaghetti with butter and parmesan, or a plate filled with tater tots—just to make sure I can make it to lunch break without losing steam due to hunger weakness. And I hate it. I hate that I have to spend so much time (and money, but mostly the time) on something so basic and meaningless as eating. I don't enjoy eating, I don't enjoy cooking or the taste. I would literally skip it all if I could, and just have more free time every day. But alas, my digestion rate won't allow it.
—doctorlit, whining about a first world problem most people would love to have -
All I have the old Stu trait of being jacked. (nm) by
on 2018-05-24 13:43:00 UTC
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Hm... by
on 2018-05-24 04:58:00 UTC
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This may or may not count, but to the outside observer, I appear to have the ability to eat whatever I want and still be thin. I know because they tell me so: "Oh, you're skinny, you can eat anything!"
This is not actually true. While it is rare for me to turn down free chocolate or pastries or whatever if they're in the offing, the facts are that I'm usually sparing with portion sizes, I enjoy vegetables and salads sufficiently that outside observers also sometimes mistake me for a vegetarian, and I occasionally try to subsist solely on tea if I'm working on something and can't be bothered with solids. (Then Phobos scolds me and drags me out of the apartment to get a burger.)
I'm also not remotely fit, and I'm pretty sure my spine has an actual curve in it from my bad habit of leaning on my left elbow. I'm working on correcting this.
I'll cop to having a good singing voice, though, and have in fact used music in the process of wooing my love interest. ^_^
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Oh man, how can I forget the singing voice? by
on 2018-05-24 05:08:00 UTC
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I was in a cappella for a few months before the club disbanded due to drama (cough), but I got made lead soprano within a few weeks. I've been told in full seriousness that I sound angelic.
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Haha, same re. "angelic." Also, my brother is a Stu. by
on 2018-05-25 03:49:00 UTC
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And assorted other such lofty compliments. But only in church choir; there was only one time I got a solo in anything I had to try out for, and that was forever ago. Certainly not in my college show choir. Only the music majors were special enough for solos.
No I'm not bitter you're bitter shut up.
I do think I've gotten better in the last couple years, though, since my church choir's new director is a really good vocal coach. Finally, someone who actually knows how to train sopranos!
Oh, but here's a thing: My brother is a fencer! He came darn close to qualifying for the Olympics in college, too. Now he's an assistant coach. ^_^ He also studied Japanese, has a really sweet Japanese hawk tattoo on his back, and has lately taken up (non-Japanese) calligraphy. And it's embarrassing how good-looking that dorky kid turned out to be. Doesn't help that his current roommate is a photographer. Total Stu.
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My brother is more of a Stu than your brother. by
on 2018-05-25 07:52:00 UTC
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He never really tried for the Olympics but he went to the junior olympics his first year fencing and he's currently the youngest licensed coach in the U.S. (He got his license when he was sixteen.) He doesn't really do fencing anymore, which is a pity. He was very good at it, and coaching pays very well.
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Oh, cool! by
on 2018-05-25 04:03:00 UTC
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I took fencing lessons for a few years and loved it, but it got in the way of school and I had to stop. I really enjoyed it, though—I got silver my first time fencing in the adult division.
What style did your brother study? I still have my old saber. :) -
Mainly foil. by
on 2018-05-25 04:29:00 UTC
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He was known for having almost no target area when turned sideways, being left-handed, and flicking the tip of the blade around to score on people's backs.
He switched to epee his last year at school, though. I think the team was short on people for it. He did really well, too—came in third at the regional!
I'll e-mail you a link to his school bio with career record, if you're curious. {= )
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Ooh, that's an interesting topic! by
on 2018-05-24 04:14:00 UTC
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Does having (supposedly) brown hair that turns silver in certain lighting count? I also have that gray/green/blue color changing thing that Delta Juliette mentioned.
I definitely agree that stuff like this is fascinating to learn about on real people! Though, I'll admit that for me personally it's because I'm obsessed with mutation for comic-booky reasons. :P -
Good question! by
on 2018-05-24 01:43:00 UTC
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My eyes do the color-changing thing too, between gray, green, and blue.
I also have the most tragic food allergy: I'm allergic to strawberries. A single slice of my particular forbidden fruit is all it takes to start my mouth itching, and an entire berry will leave me with breathing trouble for the evening. -
I have a friend who's allergic to a lot of types of fruit. by
on 2018-05-25 01:12:00 UTC
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So yeah - it's not unheard of. I don't remember the particulars of her allergy, but I'm pretty sure they include strawberries and tomatoes.
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I have central heterochromia! by
on 2018-05-23 19:41:00 UTC
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If you want me to go all-out with the Suvian descriptions: I have jade green eyes and the pupil is ringed with gold.
That probably contributed to why that color combo is my favorite, come to think of it...
Also, my baby brother and I apparently have identical faces. My mom once took headshots of us and photoshopped them together, right down the middle. It was perfectly symmetrical.