Moves and combo's.

Subject: Moves and combo's.
Author: Novastorme
Posted on: 2018-03-25 20:12:00 UTC

In doubles battles you've got to consider how many pokemon your moves hit, for example moves like Earthquake, Discharge and Surf hit all the pokemon besides the user, including allies. Whereas moves like Heat Wave and Rock Slide will hit both enemies. You've also got to consider moves like Ally Switch or Heal Pulse that are meant to target allies, not enemies and so are useless in single battles. Finally moves like Trick Room or Tailwind see a lot more use in Double battles, as well as weather conditions alongside abilities that benefit within said weather, for example Sandstorm and Sand Force, or Hail and Ice Body.

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PPC PokÃ©mon Tournament of 2018! by Iximaz on 2018-03-22 02:01:00 UTC Reply

Who wants to be the very best, like no-one ever was?

That's right, it's time for the PPC Pokémon Tournament signups to begin!

In keeping with the pattern I have going so far—normal rules, special rules, normal rules, special—this year, we're doing a slightly different format. Instead of singles battles, the format this year... is doubles.

Since last time, the double elimination bracket took us literal months to complete the tournament, we'll be going back to a single elimination format in the hopes of wrapping the tournament up by June.

See the rules list here, along with the team lineups, bracket, et cetera, et cetera.

And I do apologize for not starting signups at the beginning of March like normal; it just totally slipped my mind.

You have one month to sign up and/or finalize your team. April 20th will mark the last day for signups, and then the bracket will be posted and the battles can begin.

Happy battling!

Team by Nephthys on 2018-04-18 01:49:00 UTC Reply
- Volcarona
  - Infernape
  - Victini
  - Heatran
  - Torkoal
  - Charizard
  - Arcanine
Forgot that I need to list a team still. by Huinesoron on 2018-04-09 12:34:00 UTC Reply

Haven't really managed to get my brain in gear to think of it, so this is as good a time as any to break out:

Team Second Worst Swordsman

Fuzzball the Togekiss
Snowball the Glalie
Baseball the Golem
Beachball the Aurorus
Hardball the Skarmory
Goofball the Greninja

And for substitution...

the return of Katie Boundary the Death Malteaser (Minior).

It looks like we're at six signups now, plus I assume Iximaz, so hopefully that's enough for a tournament? I'm happy to bring along the Baby Firestarters (Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Tepig, Fennekin, Litten, with Chimchar watching from the sidelines) as a 'joke' team so the person who gets a by in round 1 can still play a battle, if you want.

hS
Signing up. by Hardric on 2018-03-26 17:12:00 UTC Reply

The team will come later, once I understand the doubles/single differences better... And I can choose a monotype myself (Why break this poor combo, EPL?). Like hS, I'm looking for tips here, and perhaps opinions on what type choose (I'm hesitating between Psy, Ghost, Dark and Fairy).

If you want to watch some Double Battles by Novastorme on 2018-03-28 08:32:00 UTC Reply

I'm more than willing to go play some on Showdown with my main team (that I won't be using in the tourney, that's just unfair) and either let you spectate or I can grab the recorded links and shove them on a post on here if you want (or both). It'd let you see some of the more common combo's on the ladder as well as hopefully give you more of an idea of what moves to pick, 'mons to play. And if you want to ask anyway questions, I'm available on Discord or you can email me them if you want, my email is clickable.

This goes out to everyone, not just Hardric, I just thought I'd respond here first.

Novastorme

I'm interested by these links. by Hardric on 2018-03-28 15:53:00 UTC Reply

And I'm sure other Doubles newbies will be too. And I think that would be more practical than direct watching. This one is nice too, but depends on being free at the same time as you. I'll think to ask you if any particular questioncomes to mind.

((Okay, that's settled, I'll go for a Fairy monotype.))

Some battle links by Novastorme on 2018-03-30 09:34:00 UTC Reply

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7doublesou-725507215
The opposing team looks really weird, you rarely take 3 pokemon all with the same (common) weakness, but the team idea there was a decent one... It could of just been better, especially considering there will be plenty of phasing pokemon out there with either Roar, Whirlwind or Dragon Tail to switch you out or Haze to eliminate your stat changes.

April Fools Battle Links by Novastorme on 2018-04-01 11:13:00 UTC Reply

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randomdoublesbattle-726447343

But it's also a good look at synergy between two pokemon.

Alright, I'm sorry. by Novastorme on 2018-04-06 21:54:00 UTC Reply

I know I said I'd put lots of battle links up here and I haven't. I either haven't had the time or have forgotten to actually get the links after the battle.

What I would suggest is trying the Random Double Battles Tier instead, while it may not have an entire team you'll be happy with, it does give you an idea of the tactics used, and can show off some Pokemon that otherwise don't get much competitive viability limelight.

It's probably worth linking to the trophy image here. by Huinesoron on 2018-03-26 16:59:00 UTC Reply

As of last year.

hS
I think I'll pass this time around, thanks. by Voyd on 2018-03-26 03:05:00 UTC Reply

Both for personal reasons, and because of the Circle. I can't count on having enough Internet time left to play a match of Pokémon Showdown.

Best of luck to those who are participating, though!
Question before I officially join the battle: by eatpraylove on 2018-03-26 02:02:00 UTC Reply

Are we doing a monotype tournament again or is it just coincidence that the three folks who've signed up already all have a monotype team?

It's just a coincidence. (nm) by Iximaz on 2018-03-26 04:33:00 UTC Reply
Aw, the heck with it. C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! by eatpraylove on 2018-03-26 03:15:00 UTC Reply

Team:
Luther the Ampharos (can mega evolve)
Fortune the Clefable
Miles the Swampert
Saraabi the Pyroar
Vanessa the Sensu Oricorio
Joseph the Claydol

Reserve: Dalton the Galvantula

Signing up. by Huinesoron on 2018-03-25 08:29:00 UTC Reply

No team as yet, though. For you Pokeknowledgeable types, what are the important things to consider when putting a Doubles team together?

hS

Moves and combo's. by Novastorme on 2018-03-25 20:12:00 UTC Reply

In doubles battles you've got to consider how many pokemon your moves hit, for example moves like Earthquake, Discharge and Surf hit all the pokemon besides the user, including allies. Whereas moves like Heat Wave and Rock Slide will hit both enemies. You've also got to consider moves like Ally Switch or Heal Pulse that are meant to target allies, not enemies and so are useless in single battles. Finally moves like Trick Room or Tailwind see a lot more use in Double battles, as well as weather conditions alongside abilities that benefit within said weather, for example Sandstorm and Sand Force, or Hail and Ice Body.

Question by SillyPhilly on 2018-03-25 00:34:00 UTC Reply

Will we be using Pokemon Online or some other sim?

PokÃ©mon Showdown. by Iximaz on 2018-03-25 01:02:00 UTC Reply

It also has this nifty feature that lets you save battles so they can be linked in the document for posterity. :)

...and because I am a derp, here's a link. by Iximaz on 2018-03-25 01:03:00 UTC Reply

https://pokemonshowdown.com/

Saves your teams, which are all fully customizable in terms of moves, items, natures, and IVs.

My Team by [EvilAI]UBEROverlord on 2018-03-24 07:07:00 UTC Reply

Let's keep the theme going:

1. Ninetales-Alola
2. Lapras
3. Mamoswine
4. Articuno
5. Aurous
6. Glaceon

7. Kyurem-Black

*Aurorus. (nabs mini-Missingno) (nm) by eatpraylove on 2018-03-26 02:58:00 UTC Reply
IÂ’ll add you when I get home. :) (nm) by Iximaz on 2018-03-24 13:46:00 UTC Reply
I was thinking of going MonoIce (nm) by Novastorme on 2018-03-24 13:17:00 UTC Reply

Oh you know I'll be here. by Novastorme on 2018-03-22 09:29:00 UTC Reply

Although I have to ask Ix, did you know my Top 500 team *before* banning half of it? (despite only one of them now being banned on the Doubles OU ladder?) :p

Oh well, time to come up with a different team.

All I can say for the moment is. Winds will change.

Putting the 'Storm' in Novastorme... by Novastorme on 2018-03-22 22:19:00 UTC Reply

Or at least for now (I may change my mind). And remember, you can blame Scape for this.

Main team: Pelliper, Swampert, Volcanion, Tapu Fini, Araquanid, Milotic.
Spare: Greninja

You know, a bit of rain doesn't make it a Storm. by Novastorme on 2018-04-05 17:06:00 UTC Reply

So let's add a little bit of Lightning and Thunder to the mix (aka I'm changing up my team)
This time I've even got a theme for them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKopy74weus

Main: Raichu-Alola, Tapu Koko, Stunfisk, Emolga, Electivire, Lanturn. Spare: Eelektross.
*tidies up Pelliper the mini-Missingno* by Scapegrace on 2018-03-23 18:21:00 UTC Reply

It's Pelipper.
#RainDownThePain =] (nm) by Scapegrace on 2018-03-23 00:29:00 UTC Reply

Hey, I'm using the Smogon list, blame them. :P (nm) by Iximaz on 2018-03-22 16:56:00 UTC Reply

Err... I think you've got the Singles banlist. by Novastorme on 2018-03-22 20:15:00 UTC Reply

Because the Doubles List is here: https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/formats/doubles/

Oh, whoops. by Iximaz on 2018-03-22 20:18:00 UTC Reply

Thanks very much for catching that. I'm a derp.

No Problem. by Novastorme on 2018-03-22 20:21:00 UTC Reply

In fact it makes my decision harder, do I go for an adapted version of my top 500 team, or do I go for a slightly different team...

Bring a monotype team and handicap yourself! I did. =] (nm) by Scapegrace on 2018-03-22 09:31:00 UTC Reply

I might be doing the same thing by [EvilAI]UBEROverlord on 2018-03-23 13:47:00 UTC Reply

Testing a few teams at the moment. One of them has no business being as effective as it is, but it is certainly a fun team to play with

Useless Article Scapegrace would like to battle! by Scapegrace on 2018-03-22 02:19:00 UTC Reply
- Beedrill
  - Nihilego
  - Nidoking
  - Gengar
  - Crobat
  - Venusaur
  - Reserve: ZE RETURN OF DOKTOR TROLLENFISCH

Swpping out Venusaur for Toxapex (nm) by Scapegrace on 2018-03-22 02:40:00 UTC Reply