Subject: [Joint reply to this and EAI's comment]
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Posted on: 2018-10-04 09:32:00 UTC

It's worth noting that Galadriel and Treebeard have met before, though not for a long time. From RotK:

Then Treebeard said farewell to each of them in turn, and he bowed three times slowly and with great reverence to Celeborn and Galadriel. ‘It is long, long since we met by stock or by stone, A vanimar, vanimálion nostari!’ he said. ‘It is sad that we should meet only thus at the ending. For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air. I do not think we shall meet again.’

And Celeborn said: ‘I do not know, Eldest.’ But Galadriel said: ‘Not in Middle-earth, nor until the lands that lie under the wave are lifted up again. Then in the willow-meads of Tasarinan we may meet in the Spring. Farewell!’


Significantly, Galadriel's line here quotes Treebeard's song back in TTT, which means she's had contact with him since the First Age. Add in the fact that the forest is literally named after him, and she definitely knows he lives there.

So, knowing that Saruman has turned, would Galadriel consider taking Isengard out of the picture? With Eowyn at her side, she could definitely pull together a three-pronged attack (Rohan, Lorien, Fangorn) - and with Goldberry (and movie!Arwen) there, she might be able to count on the River Isen itself helping out.

Of course, doing that would require some assurance that Sauron wouldn't move against Lorien while the army was out - Dol Guldur is close enough to do that. And this is where EAIUO's point comes in: what about the guys?

Well, how about we send out a second Fellowship, with a different goal: to contact Mirkwood and Erebor (and the Beornings, for that matter) and get them to attack Dol Guldur. That's something Gandalf could do - he's got Gimli and Legolas to hand, remember - and it's an excellent way of drawing Sauron's eye away from the Ringbearer's party.

We know from canon that both of these attacks could work: that Erebor+Mirkwood were able to at least hold off the armies of Dol Guldur, and that Rohan+the Ents were able to defeat Isengard. So this could be an opportunity to weaken Sauron, distract him, and keep his attention away from the Ring (now hurrying through Rohan).

Slight problem, though: when Sauron gets stirred up, he's going to start moving armies out of Morgul and Mordor. That could mean Gondor gets hit, unsupported in this timeline. It could also mean that the full strength of Mordor moves north, waging a war of annihilation on the Lonely Mountain and the Woodland Realm. At minimum, it means the Mountains of Shadow are going to be crawling with Orcs, leaving the Fellowship without an obvious way in.

Hmm... one possibility is, rather than crossing Rohan, the Fellowship could keep going south. The bulk of Gondor isn't under much threat (at least while Minas Tirith stands), and if they cross Anduin and head up the Poros, it looks like the mountains might be low enough to let them cross into Nurn. That would let them sneak into Mordor 'the back way', while Sauron's armies were all heading out the front.

Of course, this is now becoming a longer and longer journey. I estimate it as at least 1500 miles. The canon trip from Rivendell is around 1000 miles, and took 3 months; this would take nearly 5. They might succeed, but I'm not at all sure there would be a Middle-earth left to save.

hS

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