Subject: Mind if I jump in here?
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Posted on: 2019-04-22 22:10:00 UTC
While I've never watched Discovery, I have been reading up on some things.
- Can't say about the character, but that sounds more like personal opinion for you rather than an 'everyone thinks this' based off of what I've read and what I've heard from friends and colleagues who have watched the show. However there is precedent for Spock having unmentioned siblings until they appear due to the plot. Think Sybok from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, funny how he wasn't mentioned before, huh? Star Trek has done it before so in some ways it shouldn't surprise people too much that they've done it again.
- So this Spore Drive that breaks everything, the Spore Drive that's only installed on two ships in the Federation full stop, one of which *SPOILER ALERT* while managing to jump to the Beta Quadrant and back in 1.3 seconds also had all it's crew wiped out, the ship itself was scuttled and it was only able to do this at all due to an alien creature 'improving' their jump capabilities. Losing all your crew seems like a fairly big downside to being able to jump to different quadrants in seconds. Oh and the reason why this tech is never mentioned again? Because all information on it, the Discovery (the sole remaining ship to use it at that point) and her crew was sealed away in 2258, the same year Kirk beat the Kobayashi Maru test. Probably a fairly good reason as to why it's never seen again.
- Eh I'll take the Klingons, although they could be a rogue faction or something like that. I believe the explanation used for their different looks in TOS to the rest of the Star Trek TV shows before Discovery was that the Klingons in TOS were bred with human DNA and became dominant, the later series is the more Klingon DNA taking dominance, but maybe Discovery's Klingons are from before they were bred with human DNA in the first place, I mean the distinctive face ridges are there and they are identifiable as Klingons because of it. Who knows? Maybe it'll be addressed at a later point.
- Holodeck. Yes, it's said that Federation ships don't have full holodecks before the late 24th Century, but they do have and have encountered holographic technology from way before that. From what I remember Discovery isn't equipped with a full holodeck as you are trying to make out it is, it is instead equipped with a holographic combat training suite, which I assume is a rather basic, smaller version of a holodeck that may run off the same technology but isn't as big or advanced or equipped to run as a full holodeck as in Voyager which, IIRC could run things from having the crew think they were in WW2 era France to the Adventures of Captain Proton.
- MAJEL BARRETT DIED IN 2008! I DON'T SEE HOW SHE COULD VOICE ANYTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE A FUNCTIONAL TIME TRAVEL MACHINE OR THE ABILITY TO RESURRECT THE DEAD!!!
- You're making it sound like adding a computerised voice to something is so advanced that they'd only have the ability to do it with technology from the 24th century. Despite the fact that we actually have the ability to do it now. Personally I'd chalk to down to Captains/Shipbuilders personal preference. It's not that groundbreaking or problematic.
- You seem to think of the Federation as many hands being controlled by one brain, when in fact you should view it as many brains trying to control one hand. Paraphrasing various people from The Lost Fleet series here, but I think it holds true. There are many faces of the Federation I believe and while the previous series' may have concentrated on one faction of them for lack of a better word, Discovery may simply be focusing on another, one that hasn't really been seen beforehand. I think in this case it's a YMMV moment.
- I think you're doing them a disservice with the bridge, yes it's been updated with the extra snazzy bits that being 50 years but look at the captain's seat, it's almost exactly the same, the railings are in the same place, and while they've changed the colours slightly, they're still the same colour everywhere the colour was the same on the original. The seat positions are almost exactly the same (from what I can see in the picture you put up). Even the legs at the bottom of the chair are the same as in the originals. Yes things have been updated, but is that a crime? No.
And again with the ship, have they changed it's shape? No. Have they changed it's number? No. Does it have the glowy red bits at the forward facing end of its wings? Yes. The only thing I could possibly fault it on is that the 'neck' of the ship is slightly shorter than it looks on the original Enterprise and that it's been updated with more flashy lights to be windows and things to glow for the engines. Is that second thing a fault? No.
Is everything very very wrong with this show? From my point of view? No, no it's not. Nostalgia can be a brilliant thing but "it sucks because its new" (which is how you are coming across to me, no offence meant if you're not) should not be used as a valid argument.
Novastorme.