Subject: Yep, the map was on my agenda today. {= (nm)
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Posted on: 2021-02-22 16:12:44 UTC
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New (Ten Years Hence) Interlude! Starring Jacques Bonnefoy & Son by
on 2021-02-22 00:21:22 UTC
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Yes! You
heardread right! I've finally finished something, edited it, and am putting it up! What an interesting year it's been, writing-wise.And this is not just any story, friends
Romans, countrymen, no! Indeed not! This is a Ten(ish) Years Hence interlude, and it has everything! A helping of fluff! A touch of angst! An appearance from a character who first showed up in 2015 (okay, 2017 for publication date) and has barely been mentioned since! New Caledonia! Puns!Okay, one pun. And I didn't come up with it. It's great, though.
Anyway, fanfare aside: I have finally finished editing this, and am delighted to be able to share it with all of you. It's not particularly heavy, for all it does contain a serious conversation; if anything, it's fluffy. You'll see.
At any rate: first written in late 2018, it's finally here! It's...
"Ten(ish) Years Hence - A Legendary Legacy"
Summary: Cai Bonnefoy goes to New Cal with his father and finally gets the chance to ask some important questions about their history. Set roughly 2027.
(For context: Cai was rescued from a Legendary Badfic in January 2019, and this was written before "Crossing the Coffee Table" was really anything more than a vague idea, as far as I remember. Ultimately, I decided to keep that element as it was; more on that in the ending a/n, but for now, well, this is a bit AU from the outset. That's alright, though. No one's personality is radically different, or anything. Their lives are just a little bit richer in what's since replaced this as canon.)
As ever, I'd love to know what you think! I can't promise to be the best at responding, especially this week, but every comment is (as always, really) appreciated.
~Z, who can now put a slightly intimidating number of things up on the wiki, can't she. Oh dear. What a horrible prospect ;)
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Re: interlude by
on 2021-02-28 23:02:04 UTC
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This was quite a nice read! Jacques makes for quite a thoughtful, attentive parent, and I can see why Cai is so attached to him.
It's so easy to get caught in my "Doylist" perspective and dismissing badfics as things to be forgotten and ignored. I never thought of a recruited/rescued character having any emotional attachment to their origin fic, but now that you've presented the idea of it, it makes sense. Especially for the very young folks in the Nursery. I'll have to keep that in mind for future writing . . .
That opening scene made me a bit sad, all those kids waiting for a visit from their parental figures. I like to think of kids as being more emotionally self-sufficient, but then I was a pretty "keep myself occupied" kind of kid.
—doctorlit, maybe not the best author to have Nursery kids after all?
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Thank you! by
on 2021-03-03 06:58:11 UTC
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Yay! I'm glad you liked it. It's great to know that Jacques comes across as a good parent (and with a good father-son relationship here)--he definitely tries, and it's what I was aiming for. He's not flawless, but he definitely tries, and I'm aiming for it mostly working out well.
Well, everyone comes from somewhere, no? Between Jacques and I think a few other characters as well (Agen____t, for example), I've done a certain amount of thinking about how a former badfic character might relate to it all and try to understand things. My own thinking on it has shifted over the years--Jacques now has a journey of thinking about who he is vs who Jack Harkness is, and it rather mirrors my own shifts in thinking. At this point, the perspective is more "I am my own person who was once more or less Jack and shares some history and memories with him", but initially it was much closer to "I must take care to separate myself from Jack, to figure out very clearly where he ends and I begin, because I have a bunch of his memories but am clearly someone else, because I was obviously different enough to replace him and six agents and a CAD said so too." (It doesn't help that on the surface they visibly share a good few traits--poor guy. The main things that made him Not Jack are the sort of core differences that he wouldn't be comfortable talking about casually. He also started off far closer to Jack when it comes to speech patterns and so on--writing him in 2013, in his first year of recruitment, is a bit strange and takes more effort for that reason. He's developed since then, both in and out of universe.)
Anyway. Setting all that aside (and trust me, I can talk about this type of characterization for ages), kids like to know where they come from, in my experience. It's good to know where you come from. Having roots is important. You can make of them what you will, to a certain point, but it's good and important to know what you're starting with. IRL, people who feel disconnected from their roots might go searching for them--there's a fascinating book by Paul Cowan on the topic (memoir style), the title of which currently escapes me. Anyway. A kid like Cai being curious about, essentially, his birth family (even though he himself was uncanonical and they were OOC in the rest of the fic) makes a lot of sense to me. His parents, at least, are canonically together; you also get kids like the Satos, or the Robinsons, whose birth parents usually aren't together (...and might even hate each other for most of canon, like Henry Robinson's). Even there, though, you can at least look at each individual parent and at the canon. There's still something. Even Agen____t, who showed up as basically a blank slate SHIELD agent, has had that much to draw on--the training and atmosphere and the knowledge of what zir home canon's Earth is like. It's important.
I mean, yeah, self-sufficient is one thing, but...I don't know. I mostly meant it as a sort of "I'm having fun doing my thing, but would be excited if this happened"? And, in Cai's case, hopeful since he has a question? I don't know. I didn't mean it to be particularly sad! I'm sure the agents come by as often as they can, and the Nursery staff likely fill some of the gaps. If memory serves, I was also pretty good at finding ways to occupy myself, especially after I learned to read quickly, but I still really wanted my parents around. But then, I was also an only child with a good relationship with my parents, so...context. But based on what I've read and seen and so on, a child's baseline is often wanting to have that safety and security of a parent around, even though that can be damaged? I've also read some things (mostly around the internet, probably some in articles or books) by people who grew up with bad or incredibly bad parents, and very often (almost universally) they seem to have wanted (and often still want as adults) that--the good, kind, safe and supportive parents they should have had. I don't know. I feel strongly about this. But my main point is probably something along the lines of that as far as I know, the kid "baseline" is to want to have their parental figures around sometimes (or frequently), even if they're also plenty capable of entertaining themselves for hours on end.
~Z, apparently taking a turn for the serious somewhere? It's also just incredible to me that there are people who can trace their family tree back centuries. The whole concept of this sort of roots and how people might take very differently to them fascinates me. But now it's been almost an hour on the Board, and this really isn't the moment to go off on that tangent, and I'd better stop writing and post this. Anyway. Thanks for reading and reviewing, doc. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and that it made you think a little.
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Speaking as another fairly self-reliant kid... by
on 2021-03-04 02:34:31 UTC
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For context, my mom likes to tell the story of my first day of preschool. She stuck around for a while to make sure I was okay, as good parents will do. My response was to ask her, confused, "Don't you have somewhere to be?" So she figured I was fine and left me to it. {= )
And for the most part, I'd say I was fine playing with friends or entertaining myself as I chose until it was time to go home. That doesn't mean I didn't look forward to it, too—and it was definitely important to know that I would go home, because my parent(s) would come to get me. I remember a few times I was one of the last kids at after-school daycare, sun going down and supervisors getting increasingly anxious, which was never fun; and there was one occasion when my dad was so late picking me up from after-school choir practice that I up and walked to my mom's house (it was closer) by myself. I wasn't super-young at the time, something like 10 to 12 (old enough that I could manage it, young enough that the adults were properly terrified while no one knew where I was), so it wasn't traumatizing, but it was deeply unpleasant.
Basically, I was fine as long as I knew the plan and that's what happened. I was even pretty okay if the plan got thrown off a bit. But that's because I had the security of knowing that I had somewhere good to go and people who cared that I got there. It would be a totally different story without that baseline stability.
And, returning to the less-heavy point I meant to make: I still looked forward to going home even when I was happy at school or daycare. It's where my bed and my pets and most of my stuff was. {= )
~Neshomeh
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D'aww. ^_^ by
on 2021-02-22 10:18:41 UTC
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That's some proper TYH fluffiness right there.
No real comments; not feeling great, so this was just the thing to take my mind off it. :) I'm sure Le Cagou and New Calzonea (SNORT) will make it onto the New Cal map before too long.
hS
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Yay :) by
on 2021-03-03 06:19:21 UTC
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Sorry to hear you weren't feeling well! I hope you're doing better by now. And I'm very glad this could provide a distraction :)
New Calzonea is fantastic :D I was trying to name the pizza place, and had come up with the Cagou Pizza Cafe (look, you cannot call it Cagou Pizza! It sounds like you're literally (animal as food, can't remember which blacklist number off the top of my head)) and then Nesh said she'd taken it to the Discord and Scape had proposed New Cal(e)zonea (the E got dropped in a typo, but turned out easier to say), and, essentially, my immediate response was "YES" :D It's such a pleasant pun!
~Z, who should maybe finally get around to making some actual pizza sometime (as opposed to occasional approximations on bread slices and crackers, and a very good garlic bread disk thing made on dough that could have been used for pizza), since she does in fact know how and have a good recipe and, most importantly, somehow hasn't had it in almost a full year now due to no longer buying recently prepared food and not having been in the mood to both make and eat it in all that time?? This should really be rectified. Sometime. Maybe before marking the full year since the first lockdown >.>
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Yep, the map was on my agenda today. {= ) by
on 2021-02-22 16:12:44 UTC
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(Bloody enter key...)
Also the New Caledonia wiki page. Apparently Fandom takes issue with tinyurl now, so I also changed the myminicity links. Which is weird, because I'm pretty sure the reason we used tinyurls for them is that Wikia had flagged myminicity. {= /
Ah well, done now.
Feel better soon, hS. {= )
~Neshomeh
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Thanks for fixing that--I tried... by
on 2021-03-03 06:07:21 UTC
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...and contacted them, and got a response to that effect ("change the URLS thus, and it should be fine!") but wasn't quite sure how to proceed from there. On the plus side, not only did you turn out to know, you've also done the referencing better than I think I was going to--I think I've used that function all of once before, and never when adding to a big list like that, so I kind of just copied and adapted source code from the others. Which normally works out fine, but something was going a bit weird (I had a feeling I might just need to save the first edit and then come back to add in the second reference, but of course it wouldn't save!) and compared to what you did, it's different. Your code has some sort of shortcut in it? Something to take a second look at and ask you about properly, maybe; I'm curious, especially since I'll likely want to know how to do it at some point.
Anyway. Long story short, I'm glad we can edit the New Cal page again, and thank you for that!
~Z