Subject: LaCE or no,
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Posted on: 2022-03-10 09:00:57 UTC
I ship Elrond with Lindir. Shoot me 🤣
Subject: LaCE or no,
Author:
Posted on: 2022-03-10 09:00:57 UTC
I ship Elrond with Lindir. Shoot me 🤣
I don't know what it is about this article that makes me laugh so hard 🤣🤣🤣 (maybe mostly the fact whoever wrote it apparently didn't know what "bitch" means).
Shipping Fili and Kili (or Merry and Pippin for that matter) squicks me out. Merry and Pippin are less related and maybe hobbits allow cousin marriages, I don't know. Merry and Pippin's relationship always seemed to be a brotherly sort of thing.
For one thing, the author didn't make the "Witchking/Bitchking" image; he's just reporting on it. For another, the word "bitch" is being used in a particular context here, namely a queer one, in which the meaning is "a successful and confident woman gay man who doesn't put up with anyone's crap." (See also: a "bad bitch.") Since the author is writing about queer readings of Tolkien's works and their adaptations, I reckon he knew exactly what he was doing when he included that image. {= )
(Re. the actual content of the blog post... Personally, I'll pass on shipping Movie!Fili/Kili, or any of the 13, for that matter. I'd rather see one of 'em come out as a woman.)
~Neshomeh
Though, again, I do justify it via the "Quest for Erebor" from Unfinished Tales. Gandalf put a lot of effort into setting up that blind date for Bilbo and Thorin with that unexpected party! /bricked
The number of dwarf-men that marry is actually less than one-third. For not all the women take husbands: some desire none; some desire one that they cannot get, and so will have no other. As for the men, very many also do not desire marriage, being engrossed in their crafts.
Hmm, so some of these incredibly-in-demand dwarf women "desire no[ husband]" strongly enough that the go against what must be intense cultural pressure to stay unmarried? GOSH I WONDER WHY. And many men "do not desire marriage", because they're too busy wielding their manly hammers and axes in the hot, sweaty forges alongside their fellow unmarried dwarf-men? HMM GOSH HOW QUEER (BY WHICH I DEFFO MEAN PECULIAR).
(I have totally written this in Intransitives, chapter 4.)
Given the strong Hobbit obsession with families - check out the Great Smial or Brandy Hall sometime - I think you can make a solid case for Bilbo too. (Less so Frodo, purely because his age means he wouldn't be expected to marry yet anyway - quite apart from all that business with the gamekeeper, I mean gardener.) Whether this suggests that somewhere in the Shire you can find the Peculiar Inn, which caters to a very specific clientele, is left as an exercise to the reader.
hS
I ship Elrond with Lindir. Shoot me 🤣
What LaCE actually says is:
a) Elves marry only once (Finwe aside).
b) Elves are seldom swayed by the desires of the body only (the context being that they seldom have cause to break their betrothals).
c) An elvish marriage is made by the act of bodily union and the exchange of oaths by the name of the One.
What it never quite says is that the act of bodily union can only occur in marriage. That's probably because Tolkien took it as read - but he never wrote it.
It's also not said that bodily union and the desires of the body are intended only for the creation of children. Again, he kind of assumed it, but never quite said it. He almost says it when he writes:
The union of love is indeed to them great delight and joy, and the 'days of the children', as they call them, remain in their memory as the most merry in life; but they have many other powers of body and of mind which their nature urges them to fulfil.
But that doesn't actually say that they give up the 'union of love' (oh, Tolkien and his euphemisms!) when they stop having children.
And - you guessed it - he never bothered to say that neri and nissi would only be drawn in love to one another, not to others of their same kind.
My personal assumption is that in Valinor things went basically as people usually read it - elves are celibate until marriage, marry someone of the opposite sex, have children, and then give up That Sort Of Thing to focus on other pursuits. In Middle-earth, where life goes by much faster and people keep doing inconsiderate things like 'dying' or 'not having the resources to start a 144-year art project', they likely loosen up a little. They still only marry once - but before marriage, or after their spouse is gone, they Make Their Own Entertainment (hem hem).
hS
Is it too much to hope for a world where unromancified characters are allowed to eat oatcakes and invade Denmark in peace? ^_~
(Invading Denmark is an ace meme, something to do with the delicious pastries there, I think. Mm, pastries.)
~Neshomeh is definitely not planning an invasion of any sort, what a silly thing to think.