Subject: Have these been sporked?
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Posted on: 2012-07-28 20:39:00 UTC
And do you have links to fics or missions, please? Because I would like to examine them and possible nominate some of them as remarkable Sues.
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A Few Questions About Agents, HQ and Misc. by
on 2012-07-25 16:22:00 UTC
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1) Is Coriander aka Vëon (his badfic name was Choriandus and his recruiters had an ... odd sense of humour) an acceptable name for a Tolkien elf?
2) Does HQ get radio?
3) Do characters which don't appear, but are mentioned (not during dialogue) exist and need to be removed/Neuralyzed?
4) What exactly are Minis created from? If there was a missing comma before a correctly spelt canon name, would that create an object or a Mini?
5) Has anyone chosen Primeval Minis?
6) If the answer to five is no, would Mini Colombian Mammoths or Mini Predators be a sensible choice? -
Thoughts on 2 and 3. by
on 2012-07-26 03:16:00 UTC
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- Agent Undis Closed of the aforementioned Radio Nutmeg strongly implies that his station is illicit (I think his introduction starts with 'Somewhere in the mountains of New Caledonia'). I've always imagined him and Gilty Cin (I think that's right - can't get to the Wiki right now) hacking their way into a network they're probably not meant to be on. By this theory, unless it had been modified, a console probably /wouldn't/ pick up Radio Caroline or whatever. As to whether a normal radio would pick anything up in HQ... that would depend on the radio-transparency of generic surface, and the universe the radio was in at the time (assuming the HQ-is-built-into-caves-via-invisible-portals theory is correct, I don't think it's ever been properly tested).
3. Switching tracks, I would say this depends entirely on what works in the story. If you'd literally just have to write 'Agents Carbuncle and Vermillion portalled into Bitticus Karaktor's room. Vermillion stabbed him. They portalled out', it's probably not worth bothering. If, however, the off-screen character is the President of the United States of Valinor, with armies at his disposal, it might be hilarious to watch, and so worth doing.
(United States of Valinor... oh dear. That's almost as bad as 'and then the Noldor invaded Modern Earth and totally won')
hS
- Agent Undis Closed of the aforementioned Radio Nutmeg strongly implies that his station is illicit (I think his introduction starts with 'Somewhere in the mountains of New Caledonia'). I've always imagined him and Gilty Cin (I think that's right - can't get to the Wiki right now) hacking their way into a network they're probably not meant to be on. By this theory, unless it had been modified, a console probably /wouldn't/ pick up Radio Caroline or whatever. As to whether a normal radio would pick anything up in HQ... that would depend on the radio-transparency of generic surface, and the universe the radio was in at the time (assuming the HQ-is-built-into-caves-via-invisible-portals theory is correct, I don't think it's ever been properly tested).
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About 5/6... by
on 2012-07-26 02:35:00 UTC
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As far as I know, there are no Primeval Minis, but I think Mini Future Predators would probably be the best choice. Just in my opinion.
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Primeval Minis by
on 2012-07-26 16:44:00 UTC
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I agree. The Future Predators are the most unique and recognizable of the creatures.
The main appeal of the Mini Mammoths was alliteration. -
#1 by
on 2012-07-25 18:52:00 UTC
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[Snort] Vëon... 'Manly Man'? Oh, very good. The primary problem with this name is that it's very good Quenya - but most elves outside Valinor would have a Sindarin name.
Q. Vëa doesn't seem to have an attested S. form, but by analogy with Q. Valar > S. Balan, I'd say it's likely to be S. Bea. So you could have Beon (the umlauts on the 'e' aren't used in Sindarin writing). This is supported by the fact that Q. Ve, 'as, like' > S. Be. I can't find anything else that would clash with it, so Beon would work - both (probably) by meaning, and as the closest Sindarin phonology will allow to Veon (and as a bonus, with a definite article he would become i Veon, 'the Beon' - this also works for many prepositions, so 'with Beon' would be na Veon).
hS, knows too much -
*geek worshipping* by
on 2012-07-26 10:09:00 UTC
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I always liked Tolkien's Elvish, but seeing you knowing all this etymology and stuff puts me in a happy place. :D
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Thanks for the help (nm) by
on 2012-07-25 19:28:00 UTC
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Quick answer to 2! by
on 2012-07-25 17:33:00 UTC
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The Wiki is your friend!
We have the PPC Radio:
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/PPCRadio
run by Agent Gilty Cin.
There's also Radio Nutmeg:
<a href="http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/RadioNutmeg">http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Radio_Nutmeg
which has actual real broadcasts that can be listened to! This one is run by Agent Undis Closed, who, entirely through coincidence, sounds exactly like Huinesoron.
Let's see, what else. I would say a character only needs to be neuralyzed if they observed part of the badfic happening, but I'm sure there are exceptions. An example would be nice, here.
A missing comma? I'm thinking no. That wouldn't be affecting the name. A missing apostrophe, like in "Aragorns sword?" Definitely a mini. (and maybe duplicate Aragorns, too!) A random extra comma, like in "walking to the door ,Aragorn saw . . . ?" Also a mini, though I'm not sure how to pronounce the comma in ,Aragorn. Maybe start with a pause? -
Re: Quick answer to 2! by
on 2012-07-25 17:47:00 UTC
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The Sue was the last of her kind therefore she had to get into Aragorn's pants and Arwen got a fiance. The fiance never appeared onscreen, but the Sue (not during dialogue) explained how she cut off all his hair against his will.
The fic in question does exist, but I'm just going to recruit that one character. -
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on 2012-07-25 19:00:00 UTC
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I really should come to expect this sort of thing from sues by now but still...
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It's nowhere near the weirdest thing I've seen Sues do. by
on 2012-07-27 15:34:00 UTC
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There was a Tenth Walker who cooked boiled potatoes with nothing but salt, made Pippin sled down a snowy mountain known to have crevices on a horse on a shield and put a pub named Barnacles, owned by a guy named Arnold who likes pies, up the same mountain.
Then there was the Snape's daughter who ate nothing but apples and went by the name Nights Grace and the Dragon Rider from Alegasia who turned up in Middle-Earth whose modern clothes had lasted five hundred years. Those were from different fics luckily. -
Have these been sporked? by
on 2012-07-28 20:39:00 UTC
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And do you have links to fics or missions, please? Because I would like to examine them and possible nominate some of them as remarkable Sues.
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Links by
on 2012-07-30 15:50:00 UTC
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None of them have been spokrked as far as I know and I don't have Permission, so here's those links, plus a couple of bonus ones.
The one with the shield sledding, jelly pastries, Barnacles and Arnold who likes pies. It's forty eight chapters and a Narnia crossover to boot.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6732953/1/ThebPainbThatNobOnebbKnowsb
The apple eating Nights Grace who can walk through walls, twenty chapters.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8236142/1/SeverusSnapesLongLostDaughter
A Tenth Walker Lord of the Rings Sue. Species: nymph. Name: Ivy short for Laiqualassiel. Only two chapters.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8232737/1/Blade
A Song of the Lioness Sue. Notable for creating a stelthed word, sending Duke Gareth incredibly OOC, beating Alex at swordfighting, taking Alanna's place and being a Princess of Galla and still being able to disguise herself as a boy and train as a knight in Tortall. Four chapters, plus an AN saying the author has put it on hiatus.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2310723/1/Princess_Knight -
Re: Links by
on 2012-07-30 16:30:00 UTC
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I posted these onto the Unclaimed Badfic page, hope you don't mind.
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That's fine, although ... by
on 2012-07-30 16:42:00 UTC
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I'm considering a recruit from the Snape's daughter one.
I did think they were mostly too long to draw attention to. -
Quick answer to 4 by
on 2012-07-25 17:13:00 UTC
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Minis are created from mis-spelt names. If there's a missing comma... I think we'd need an example just to be sure.
I'm not sure about the rest though, hehe... -
Re: Quick answer to 4 by
on 2012-07-25 17:25:00 UTC
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Using the Alice and Bob example method:
"Where are you Bob?" called Alice the walls of the maze moving around her.
There are two missing commas, so would this create the Mini you Bob and a thing which could be described as Alice the walls or just cause a couple of commas to fall from the sky? -
Re: Quick answer to 4 by
on 2012-07-25 17:44:00 UTC
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Hm...
I'm not sure what would happen with you Bob, but the end bit sounds like it would create a mini.
I think so, at least. You could probably do with the opinion of a more experienced boarder, haha... ^^' -
I'm put in mind... by
on 2012-07-25 18:26:00 UTC
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... of the Long Table Elrond at OFUM. By that pattern, Alice The Walls would likely be a piece of furniture. Bob would probably be... hmm, dunno. Doesn't /look/ like a mini, but...
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I was gonna mention Long Table Elrond... by
on 2012-07-26 00:39:00 UTC
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Alice The Walls would definitely be some kind of furniture. You Bob... I dunno. I think this is one of those mistakes that would cause a raining comma, just because it's one of those mistakes that's so common that if it were to create some kind of You Bob-esque creature, the world would be inundated with them.
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Single comma falling from the sky? (nm) by
on 2012-07-25 18:29:00 UTC
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Re: Single comma falling from the sky? by
on 2012-07-26 14:57:00 UTC
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Yeah, I think so. Or one that simply floats past the Agents. Really bad cases of punctuation abuse cause Punctuation Downpours, which are exactly that: it's raining punctuation. It usually hurts.