Subject: But that's just the thing, you can't take it back.
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Posted on: 2012-07-19 19:45:00 UTC
I learned the hard way that if you screw up once, there is no quick way to fix it. You really have to put in the effort to make it right, and even if you could delete that post, people would still remember.
Might want to have somebody go after this one:
http://civgod666.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d51gixr
Contains trivialized domestic abuse, among other offenses. When I wrote a critique calling the author out on this he dismissed it as inflammatory, called me a troll, and blocked me.
I feel like one of our senior members or PGs should send a message to the author, saying something along the lines of 'we are very sorry about Zelda, they don't represent or community, please don't judge us on their example, thank you for being civil about this'.
Since both this guy and GoneRampant do not represent us.
The author was very civil when I messaged them, and between that and the rest of the comments on the piece, that is why I said what I did right below your post here.
That comment wasn't very clear. But it's good that the author was civil and understanding.
Dude. Going from what I saw of the replies and posts there from your part?
You are not welcome here. You disregarded our rules- assuming you read them in the first place- to troll and insult people.
That behavior is not acceptable.
Just solved the problem- the scene'll be going down soon, but the author says, "I want the Zelda person to learn some f**king manners." Just passing it along.
If you're wondering, here's the author's last message:
"I've been there too...and I've offended myself with it since day one. Im informing my watchers now of what I've decided. Im going to fully rewrite Scoots side or even take it out. Im really sorry this had to happen, regardless of what happens in your group.
I want you to know that you have earned my respect tonight with your civil and fully honest approach. I'm changing the story on two conditions. One, your group is just and right, but your Zelda person needs to learn some ...ing manners. Teach him. Two, i dont ever want to hear from yall again. Im a very civil and opened minded person, but I will not be bullied. My watchers are ready to go to war with your group over this but im not allowing them to.
I wish we had been able to talk under better circumstances. Also, im not changing this for your group, im changing this for you and me. Civility goes a long ways sir."
So... I talked to the author and didn't start yelling right away. They've been civil, and said that the story wasn't meant to go as far as it did, and that if, and I quote, "Feel it is too offensive, I will delete that part." So maybe no on the sporking?
Also, here's a little more: "However, what power does your group have? because my watchers arent liking this."
Any suggestions as to what I say?
...we don't have any powers whatsoever.
At all. We're not the fandom police, we're just finding humour in bad writing and writing funny missions to go with it.
I suggest you keep the PPC out of the public eye. We don't want to attract unwanted attention, especially at this time...
Right, I'll tell the author they're in the clear. I'll tell them to delete the abuse.
But seriously... what's happened?
Some of us in the IRC have been watching your exchange with this author. Why did you take it upon yourself to do this? Did you think you were doing a good deed, or did you just want to rile shit up?
Also, I personally couldn't help notice the rather obvious hypocrisy between your cry of "Spork the B*tch" here and your rather reasonable initial post there:
"OK, good things- Grammer's fine, and... well... that's it.
I'm not a fan of the original material, but I can respect you going out and doing something not many people write these days.
Sadly, I'm only here because I found a link on the PPC Posting Board, and I'm just giving you a friendly warning- they may spork this, and... I think they're right.
Because I'm a Victim of this stuff. So reading it? Not fun memories, I'll tell you that much."
An explanation would not go amiss at this point.
I make the initial post before I talked to the author and stopped any flame wars. I get them to rewrite/delete the scene that caused all this.
I'm not expecting anything- maybe one guy saying, "Thanks for solving this before It Got Worse!" And then I'm given what I assume is the Forum version of grabbing someone against a wall.
So what'd I do this time, aside from Doing The Right Thing?
You are not our designated representative. You do not speak on the community's behalf. That is not how we do things here.
You have not stopped a flame war. You may have actually helped cause one instead, as now an angry author with internet friends can search us out, come in here, and cause trouble. We don't that, especially now of all times.
You have been constantly inconsiderate since returning to the Board. You have ignored the requests of PPC members.
I am asking you to leave.
All of it, it's just down the Board, and follow Tranum's link when you come to his post, then read all of that thread too.
Then you'll know what happened.
You shouldn't've done.
He's already commented on Tray's thread, the thread you made, and then made his own thread complaining that he still didn't know what was going on, and was rude, insulting, condescending over many of his posts since he first posted in Tray's thread.
Right. Thanks.
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*Cough*
Um, what I said above.
This behavior is not acceptable here. You are more than welcome to leave if you think saying this sort of thing is okay.
Look, I got angry. I'm not proud of me a lot of the time, but... If there's a way to delete that comment, let me know.
That's what made me leave the Board a while a go, and made me lose Herr Wozzeck as a friend.
Look, if I can take it back, I would in a heartbeat.
I learned the hard way that if you screw up once, there is no quick way to fix it. You really have to put in the effort to make it right, and even if you could delete that post, people would still remember.
As in, under the post, where people can choose whether to click or not, instead of in caps-lock on the front of the 'Board?
>MLP Fanfic
I wouldn't touch MLP fanfics most of the time, but whenever I touch one, I usually find stuff that is not supposed to be put into the MLP-verse. This one's not even an exemption, look at all the violence and blood that is implied in the fanfic! Bleh. Bronies and their insane ideas of adding such genre to a show where everything is supposed to be happy and carefree and stuff.
>dA author's reaction towards your criticism
I am not surprised at all that he/she/it reacted like a child with an extremely fragile ego and wouldn't hear out anything that you say unless it involves a Moronic Observation, Asinine Response or M.O.A.R. comment. dA's a place where many artists and authors try to find people who will kiss their feet once they show them their 'art'. Kinda like the fanfiction.net's twin, but hosts pictures and written prose and has a vast number of M.O.A.R. posters and onion-skinned authors and artists.
Why-hy-hyyyyyyy...
I mean seriously, what is even the point of making Scootaloo's mother an abusive alcoholic. It inserts grimdark for no reason, creates angst for angst's sake, and it's not even well-written! Ugh, it's in a kid's point of view and it doesn't sound like a kid, it's got too many formal words like 'assailant' and it isn't Scootaloo, that's the major thing because 'assailant' could be in a kid's vocabulary (coughprobablytwilightsparkleasafillycough) but this, this isn't Scootaloo.
Ow, ow, ow, Celestia this thing hurts, no self you haven't even got Permission and your schoolwork situation is in a place where you know full well it takes precedence over Fun, you cannot take a titanium spork to it! But Glod, Glod do I want to.
"Scootabuse" is actually a sort of thing in the fandom. I have no idea where it started (Nor do I wish to show examples), but you can expect more of it in the future.