Subject: Re: Wow. Just... wow. And wow.
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Posted on: 2012-06-30 00:55:00 UTC
I gave up on this one. You are right. I'm a newbie with delusions of grandeur.
Subject: Re: Wow. Just... wow. And wow.
Author:
Posted on: 2012-06-30 00:55:00 UTC
I gave up on this one. You are right. I'm a newbie with delusions of grandeur.
Hello!
My name is Jack. I have been reading fanfiction for a while and recently started writing. I have long been annoyed by marry sues, bad slash, and so forth for a while. Recently, I found the Avatar OFU; I followed that back to the PPC. I would like to join, perhaps the DMS, ESAS or floaters and write missions. Please advise.
Hello, and greetings! Have a Holy Hand Grenade!
If you want a role-model of what NOT to do, look at posts involving me!
Good luck in the PPC wiki!
I have looked through the wiki, and it is very funny, and I figured out the PPC's lack of sanity fromthe "BAD IDEA" section. Thank you for the candy.
Hi, have some fudge!
Welcome to the PPC new newbie! I should report you to the Department of Redundancy Department, but I'll let it slide because this is your first infraction. As a welcome gift, have a propeller cap; it'll take you wherever you need to go, as long as it's not in a building or underground.
Could you link me some of it? I'd like to spork it once I have some experience.
oh. I see. I see what you are saying (starts loking for a spork)
Read our rules.
Hello Newbie. I was wondering, have you read Warbreaker? I was considering a Lifeless agent, then remembered I'd given a character a fear of zombies, which she wouldn't let me take away.
The thing about the Mistborn is that they are going to win if there is metal about. It might be interesting to have your character only be able to burn one metal or have limited supplies. That way the agent can't simply rely on one skill.
I have read all of Sanderson's published work, so yes, I have. The reason that I was thinking mistborn was if I wasn’t to go into ESAS, He/she would need strong magic. Also, I can envision a lot of ways the laws of narrative comedy could affect allomancy. Besides, the agent would only have as much metal as he brought with him from HQ. Same thing with the Radiant agent, he would have limited stormlight in the same manner.
I gave up on this one. You are right. I'm a newbie with delusions of grandeur.
No one said that. You are a newbie, yes, but you don't have delusions of grandeur. What you do have is an urge to jump into the pool before learning how to swim.
Read some missions, talk to people, and get to know us. Don't be so quick to give up. Like Fractal Dawn said, over powered characters CAN work, but it takes caution and care to make sure they aren't Sues or Stus.
Agents don't need to be strong in order to defeat a Sue. More often than not, said Sue is outwitted and/or hoist by their own petard.
Just mentioning that. Also, if the agents are too good at their job, things are going to get boring soon.
Good point. Should agents have any power beyond normal human at all?
(1 I saw an empty niche, and I took it. Its stuff I want to do (I assumed strong dislike/hatred of sues was assumed) and I like the fringe benefits.
(B Part the first: Read. Book. Nine. Part the second, it appered that all PPC agents were mad.
(III They aren't that powerful compared to a magic user of the same rairty in a lot of other magic systems (i.e. One Power, Harry Potter Magic, Generic Fantasy Wizzard etc.)
I've conceded that point, and all the others that you people have made.
I am open to sugestions about better, more balanced agents.
I also get the point about sue/stu agents.
Any Ideas?
There's no yes or no to that question. They can, but these powers should be handled reasonably. They shouldn't be easy plot devices. After all, what do you do when your agent's not human to begin with? Just... don't make your agents speshul. You'll get the gist of it soon enough.
What if those powers are not speshul in their home worlds? Mistborn make up a (small) precentge of the nobility in the final empire and an oddly large percentage of the illegitimate children of said nobles. In Stormlight archives, there were thousands of knights in each order of the Knights Radiant. once... (Tumbleweed rolls across screen)
Mistborn are special. They're unique and powerful. Don't try to pretend otherwise to get what you want.
Sounds good. I've never actually been able to find the first book of the Stormlight Archive, but have read all the Mistborn.
So you would aprove my Sanderson agent Pair?
If so,think you could any hints on personality or anything?
I'll go into this in more detail above, but as a quick note:
Kelsier, Vin, and Zane are Super Special Lead PCs. That is not necessarily the tone you want to strike with an Agent. It is possible. Again, I'll go into this in more detail above.
In retrospect Zane and Kelsier's personalities really aren't suitable and with Vin at the beginning she's barely able to function.
I was mostly trying to think of ways not to let a Mistborn just be speshul.
It would make more sense for a character to just be an Allomancer, something 'simple' like iron or steel would be better than tin, pewter, zinc or brass. Bronze would be useless in a different continuum, but copper could be useful as it protects against emotional Allomancy and potentially the Aura of Smooth, which would make it harder, but not impossible for the agent to be Sued.
Yes, I'm just talking about those personality traits. I think that they would be somewhat funny, if I can work them right.
For a misting/twinborn agent which metal(s) would you sugest?
most likly going with the cracked one who forgets about his powers, as this could lead to some amusing situtiations.
Welcome to the Board! Have some of my hydrophobic water to commemorate the event. Totally not related to our other fine K-Blooee Industries product, Instant Explodium.
Have you read the Original Series yet? If not, go and check it out at: http://www.misssandman.com/PPC/story.html
It's awesome, I can guarantee it.
I have been following the PPC for a month, and have read the original series. It’s epic. I personally enjoy OFUs as well. I am currently working on an agent pair. One is a mistborn, meaning he eats metals to gain various powers (i.e. Push/Pull metal, Emotions, Boost strength/ senses etc.) The other is a Knight radiant, with some gravitational manipulations. They would probably be ESAS or heavy duty assassins.
It's nice to meetcha! I'd say more, but I'm too ill to spend ages staring at this screen. Ow my head.
So yeah, welcome! Have a cake that's not cooked properly!
Hello and welcome to the PPC!
Hmmm...let me see...ah! Have a random, small, gold key. Don't ask me what it opens, though - but you never know when it might come in useful.
Good luck!
Yes, that creates nasty cannon entanglements.
I'm working on a few agents, a mistborn agen from the mistborn trilogy, a shardbeared/Knight Radiant from Stormlight archives, and Asha'man from Wheel of time, and some others. Don't know which I will go with
It really sucks when your cannons get entangled. It's impossible to get off a decent shot then. Tangled cannons is definitely up there on the irritation scale with Mary Sues marrying canon characters.
~Neshomeh
Is it anything like when your Schwartz get twisted?
Not having one and all. I hear it's quite unpleasant. Still, there's an upside and a downside to every Schwartz, so I guess you have to take the bad with the good.
^_^
~Neshomeh
I have three new ESAS missions in the works. Main problem is I'm trying to catch up on five years of in-universe time, so it's a protracted exercise.
Elcalion, tardy in his writing
Well, the ESAS handels the really bad Warrior! and GOD MODE!Sues, so your agents can have pretty strong combat cabailites, so thats one thing. I really like Wheel of Time, but that is a very small fandom, despite its popularity, and has very little badfic, due to the fact that it is not very fangirl-attractive. Also, the Stormlight Archives (Brandon Sanderson) is a favorate of mine, but it is only on the first (thousand page) book of 10, and dosn't have a fandom yet.
Yeah, hi, welcome. What are your fandoms? Also, as Tira advised, it's a good idea to read the wiki. Not to mention pretty entertaining sometimes.
Last but not least, your newbie gift: a cup of tea. Just mind the leaves, they might try to eat you.
Thank you, I have read the wiki, and its hilarious. Thanks for the tea, I will drink with care.
Fandoms: Harry Potter, Avatar, Wheel of time (popular series, but very small fandom, with very little badfic.)
Hi, Jack! I'm not exactly what you would call an experienced member, but I think I can answer some of your questions. Generally, you can't start writing missions right away. You have to hang around for a while, so that you know how everything works here. I'd check out the "Getting Permission" page on the wiki.
Random question: is the Avatar OFU for A:TLA, or the James Cameron movie?
Yes, I've read that. I was talking about OFUA:TLA
Ah, cool! I'm a big Avatar fan myself, so I'll have to check it out sometime.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7705334/1/TheSapphireFlame
This is a pretty good avatar story. Its Azulaang, but its actually well writen and I didn't see much OOC.