Subject: Merged Sues? (nm)
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Posted on: 2012-02-02 16:57:00 UTC
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Sue Page Cleanup Results: The Summary by
on 2012-02-01 16:55:00 UTC
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Good work, you guys! by
on 2012-02-03 14:48:00 UTC
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Agreed by
on 2012-02-03 18:52:00 UTC
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I already talked to Aster about the links thing. And yeah, leaving then up for a bit is probably a good idea.
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Darn. by
on 2012-02-02 21:22:00 UTC
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I was still hoping Heather Draconius would be kept. *goes off to save the page before it gets deleted*
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An especially hilarious part of that charge list: by
on 2012-02-21 20:55:00 UTC
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"For making up a love’s first kiss killing curse, and forcing Belle to kiss all the men in France when that equals to over twenty-one million men between fifteen and sixty-four."
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Related topic - Blending Sues by
on 2012-02-02 16:47:00 UTC
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Re: Related topic - Blending Sues by
on 2012-02-02 19:46:00 UTC
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Actually, I was planning on working this into a future mission. Two fics by the same person, where one Sue is the daughter of Iron Man and the other is the daughter of CSI's Mac Taylor.
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Related? by
on 2012-02-02 18:01:00 UTC
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We already have a page on the phenomenon of Ficverse Fusion: when two badfics are so similar that they begin to blend into each other. Maybe that can help you in your quest to document this phenomenon.
Tangentially related: I am fairly sure that the reason why the PPC doesn't spork many 'High School AU' badfics because (aside from just being boring) they all are so incredibly similar that they blur together and if you've sporked one you have sporked them all. Maybe that, too, is related to your idea? -
Definitely related by
on 2012-02-04 09:36:00 UTC
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But the NCIS mission wasn't a complete fusion; the agents simply got bounced from fic to fic. It might still count as a partial Ficverse Fusion or the FF might be one of several possible results of bland Sues or fics.
*scratches head* It's kind of hard to make generalizations when there are only two documented cases to go by. I predict a page full of 'possibly' and 'more data needed'. -
Merged Sues? (nm) by
on 2012-02-02 16:57:00 UTC
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Or Merged Marys? (nm) by
on 2012-02-04 00:34:00 UTC
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Are these Sues up for adoption? What is this? (nm) by
on 2012-02-01 19:41:00 UTC
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A cleanup on the Wiki. by
on 2012-02-01 19:55:00 UTC
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Without set standards of what should be on the wiki and what doesn't have to be, over time the amount of pages for slain Mary Sues has increased to the point where there are just too many of them. Sues that are less notable, are not part of the original series, or are better explained by reading the missions they belong to than reading a summary are subject to be removed from the wiki.
This has been a months-long project by Guvnor, Antigone, and others. I'm really surprised you didn't hear of it with the periodic threads on it. O_o; -
To address your confusion by
on 2012-02-01 20:30:00 UTC
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A) Thanks.
B) I've been gone for a bit. Just returned a few weeks ago.
C) I appear to be perpetually confused, but I have next to no qualms about asking dumb questions. I'd rather understand and feel silly than not understand at all. -
Proper order in things is often a mystery to me as well... (nm) by
on 2012-02-01 20:43:00 UTC
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An explanation by
on 2012-02-01 19:51:00 UTC
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These are Sues and Stus that have been dealt with in missions. It was decided that we didn't need all of these Sue pages on the Wiki, so a committee was formed to evaluate each Sue and make recommendations as to which pages should be kept, which re-written, and which deleted or combined with another page.
This is the list of recommendations. -
Additional question. by
on 2012-02-01 20:28:00 UTC
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I see. So, if I wrote a mission and killed a Sue, where would I go to see if it was necessary to make a Wiki page for her/him? What's the criteria?
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Re: Additional question. by
on 2012-02-01 20:59:00 UTC
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The board voted to have pages for "notable Sues/Stus" only.
Original Series is notable by default, as are Sues from Legendary Badfics. For the rest, it boiled down to "does this Sue stand out for some reason?". A mission that's just another Legomance doesn't need a Sue page, but we voted to keep the Pegacorn who had a child by Legolas. -
Still working on that last one. by
on 2012-02-01 20:42:00 UTC
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We/they (As a wikiperson I'm not directly doing this project but I may be pressing the 'delete page' button a lot in the near future) haven't decided on the criteria yet. Safe to say, it's a question that they'd probably serve the whole community before pushing it on anybody.
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Okay, thanks for being the willing answer-person. :) (nm) by
on 2012-02-01 23:45:00 UTC
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