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Posted on: 2011-11-09 06:48:00 UTC
Several of the Sue I came across that were stalking characters / making them stalk her, were most definitely after the love and romance part and not so much after the lusting.
Sure, they first liked a guy because he was hot (though that wasn't always the case), but they wanted love and romance out of the relationship.
Hence love object would be a good term.
I know this is a finer and optional point within a mission, but a good chunk of missions I have read dealing with Mary-Sues allow fo the vic- I mean, unfortunates to have a final say before they are dispatched.
While I can understand the reasoning behind it, but what is it included in a mission for? To allow a Sue to plead their case?
If so, how should such Sues be generally represented?
Just thinking ahead here.
A lot of Sues just don't have enough personality to even comprehend the concept of an assassination. For those, you can just show them being mildly surprised, if anything.
Using a quote from the fic or the author's note is another favorite, especially if the quote has bad grammar or spelling.
If the Sue has enough of a personality to coherently plead her case, you may have to consider recruiting her--the presence of a personality means she can probably be rehabilitated. You guys ever read those fics where the Sue really isn't that egregious, but the canon disruption is huge? In those cases, it seems like the Sue isn't the source of the problem, but just happens to be located at the epicenter of it. I see those as potential recruits.
Well, not ALL Sues are dead eyed dolls that would listen to their charges without a peep. If you've ever seen footage (perhaps on the news, or in a release of a court case) of somebody being arrested, many people certainly do not heed 'you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used in a court of law.'
As for writing them, one can get the idea of a Sue's character just by going through the mission. Sues usually have two kinds of goals: the goal they claim to have, and the end goal their actions actually are striving for. A Sue might claim to want to save the world, but if the narrative works only to drop her into into 's arms... then it's clear what the Sue actually exists for.
If you really want to write any length of dialogue or action with them, you kind of have two options.
1) Write the sue 'unmasked', showing her true colors, and desperately grasping what she really wants. She may throw fits, freak out about being separated from her love interest, go supernova and become a great urple sparkling horror in a desperate attempt to crush agents... anything you want, really. Just as long as it's not offensive and fits within the bounds of satire.
2) is to sort of pick up where the author left off and make the Sue act as she did in the fic. Emulating the style of a Sue is hard but I've done it before in parody works to... disturbing success.
The PPC refers to the object of a Sue's affection as a "Lust Object". This is because the Suvian concept of "romance" doesn't really describe "romance" as much as it does "oh my God that guy/girl is sooooooooooo hot! I wanna jump his/her bones!"
Dude, Sues can have whatever they want, but it usually isn't good. Plenty of Sues have 'love objects' as in, they can seek romance and may not focus on sex. Even if they may lust, Sues do seek romance. Just often a kind of 'love' that may mean 'obsessive devotion' or 'fairytale happy ending that doesn't happen realistically.'
Many sues with 'younger' mindsets may treat the object of their desires with possessiveness rather than perversion: the sort that is totally obsessed with getting a boyfriend, marrying him and having twu wuv forever like in a princess story.
(Doesn't mean that their obsessive fixation on physical features and nearly slave-like devotion DOESN'T come across as lustful, though...)
Just because the Wiki doesn't mention it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. It's just that we haven't written about it yet.
Plus, as a friendly suggestion, I would say go read some badfic, spork some badfic, and participate more before you go around saying what the PPC does or does not do. You have to be a part of the community before you start saying this and that about us! :)
Several of the Sue I came across that were stalking characters / making them stalk her, were most definitely after the love and romance part and not so much after the lusting.
Sure, they first liked a guy because he was hot (though that wasn't always the case), but they wanted love and romance out of the relationship.
Hence love object would be a good term.
Cheers.
I actually had an idea of conducting charges and last words a bit more informally. I imagine that a Sue might get loose and attack the agent(s) and as the fight breaks out, the Agents call the Sue out on his/her actions while trying to keep him/her at bay until one of them could land an assassination or contrive an "accident".