Subject: Same for me, continued.
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Posted on: 2010-12-12 09:44:00 UTC

Okay, this is going to be harder not just because at least one Boarder (Cassie-Cameron-Young) agrees with the "Narnia is misyoginist" position. This is also a reply to some of doctorlit's points.

First, the Susan thing. When I read it, I thought that it was Susan's denial of Narnia and possible descent into materialism that barred her from Aslan's country, not a supposed growth into sexual maturity as she already had one during her reign as Queen of Narnia (where she was called Queen Susan the Beautiful, and had many princes ask for her hand in marriage). In fact, The Horse and His Boy shows Adult!SexuallyMature! Susan in a positive light, able to make the right decisions regarding future romantic partners. In fact, the only hint that her ban from the Afterlife resulted from such a cause are lines about "Trying to grow up too fast" and "Only interested in lipsticks, nylons, and invitations" which could be applied to assuming an "adult" image too fast, too soon.

Then again, Cassie could have heard these points already, so if she makes a reply to this saying so, I won't make a rebuttal. I'm already distressed that I have to fight with a friend, and don't wish this argument to continue. Sorry if that was Narm-ish.

I'm on far better metaphorical ground regarding the Calormenes=Muslims contention, though. To me, the Calormenes are closer to Carthaganians and Babylonians, North African and Middle Eastern cultures that did practice Polytheism and Human Sacrifice (at least as far as Lewis knew). Not merely that, but we also have two Calormene characters that are positively portrayed (Aravis Tarkheena from The Horse and His Boy and Emeth Tarkan from The Last Battle). While that isn't much, the fact that the Calormenes' capital city, Tashbaan is also a prominent part of Aslan's Country where only good things go shows that there is room for contention.

Note however, that those characters have received criticism (Emeth got placed in the "Fox News Liberal" article on Tv.Tropes, last time I checked) and I know I haven't covered all the bases. So I'll just leave this part to other people more used to debate, even though I'm still more sure about this.

Okay, I'm a coward regarding this, and I haven't even started on how women other than Susan are portrayed (which is also a debate). It's not in my nature to start a debate, especially against my friends. Not merely that, but I've said rash things in the past (especially in the thread about the Anti-Sporking Essay), and I don't wish to do so on such a charged issue.

Adieu and Sorry, Wikimaster.

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