Subject: Plus, of course, John Cleese for the Lichen? (nm)
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Posted on: 2010-08-13 00:20:00 UTC
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Food for thought: if there was a PPC movie . . . by
on 2010-08-12 06:17:00 UTC
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Re: Food for thought: if there was a PPC movie . . . by
on 2010-08-13 23:41:00 UTC
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How would we go about distinguishing possessed canons from look alike replacements? And what kind of rating would this have? Would it have to be restricted to the non-NSFW, non-NC-17 targets? Would it be only Sues?
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It would be silly... by
on 2010-08-19 15:33:00 UTC
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... to limit it to Sues when Bad Slash is such an integral part of the PPC. Probably we'd want a fairly low rating, so it couldn't be explicit Bad Slash, but it couldn't be explicit Sues either, and the less explicit ones are funnier, I think.
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Re: Food for thought: if there was a PPC movie . . . by
on 2010-08-17 16:40:00 UTC
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Look Alikes seem like bad copies, with fake glasses and wrong clothes, and bad wigs, etc.
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Who would play my agents by
on 2010-08-13 20:12:00 UTC
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My agents (if they are granted permission) should both be played by myself. I think I can pull off 6'7" northern English male and 4'10" London english female. Well it would make a good talking point anyway.
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Hm. by
on 2010-08-13 04:40:00 UTC
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Given the sheer mind-blowing scale of the PPC (does anyone have any idea about the total wordcount of all PPC-related materials to date?), I'd say we're looking at a very long-running TV show here, not a movie. It'd also fit the episodic format better, don't you think? (With the obvious exception of the Emergencies, which would be long-running arcs or season finales). And there's a mind-blowing number of actresses who could be Sues. However, does anyone else think that some Sues at least might be better played by really good actresses, sort of like the best tone-deaf singers are played by people who can actually sing so that they can screw up properly?
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Some thoughts by
on 2010-08-13 06:33:00 UTC
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Re: Some thoughts by
on 2010-08-14 04:09:00 UTC
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I think the sheer absurdity of the situations, plus things like framing the shots and the nature of the special effects and the background music and so forth, might make it clear that things weren't serious. Sort of like, if there are any other Glee viewers here, you can pretty much always tell what moments are dramatic and what are comedic - the same signals for comedy would work in the PPC.
Also, I'm not sure there's anything wrong with getting attached to the characters and world. I'm kind of fond of a lot of agents, not just mine but other peoples'. -
Agreed by
on 2010-08-14 16:13:00 UTC
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I don't watch Glee regularly, but that's true. The easiest way to make it clear whether a moment is comedy or not without changing anything in-universe is the soundtrack. One of the things I love about bad movies (I'm thinking Manos: The Hands of Fate) is situationally-inappropriate music — I happen to think Manos has a nice-sounding soundtrack, but it's definitely not the right soundtrack for Manos.
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Ooh! by
on 2010-08-12 23:08:00 UTC
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Animation or CG would be good.
Who would play a Sue... that's a tough on-- oh, wait, Lindsay Lohan. Justin Bieber would make a great Stu. He practically is one already.
As for my agents... I dunno, since most of my agents are in their teens it kind of makes things difficult. -
I would personally prefer it be animated... by
on 2010-08-12 21:11:00 UTC
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...Or made with CGI a la Avatar (only much better plotted, of course). That way, the Agents can be tailored to whatever standards we (alright, the directors) will. But, if I had to choosea person, it would probably be a young Edward Norton to play Julius, and...well, I can't think of a good actress for Leila off the top of my head and I just did a Google image search for 'actress' and the results are 90% NSFW.
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I agree by
on 2010-08-12 21:47:00 UTC
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Animation would definitely be the way to go for the reason you mentioned. Character design could be more strictly controled than if you had a specfic actor playing the role.
Who could I see playing my characters? Following the animation road (so considering the actor's voices only) I'd go with Tara Strong as Laura, Paul Rudd as Danny, and Emily Osment as Rachel. Not sure who'd do for Xericka or Gremlin. -
Also... by
on 2010-08-13 03:19:00 UTC
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Plus that opens us up to voice actors, right? by
on 2010-08-13 04:24:00 UTC
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Which I like, because now I have a couple ideas. Maryke Hendrikse or Lisa Ann Beley (Revy and Eda in Black Lagoon , respectively) would both make excellent Kimmie VAs, and Caitlin Glass (Haruhi of Ouran fame, and also apparently Winry Rockbell) would be a great Agent Caitlyn*.
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That would be a cool movie! by
on 2010-08-12 20:27:00 UTC
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Copyright and reality by
on 2010-08-13 11:29:00 UTC
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(not a lawyer)
Given that, as you say, it's about the fan treatment of published work, it might fall under a fair use clause, but we'd probably need permission from the copyright owners of all the canons involved, as we are using their things.
As for distinguishing the Suefic from reality, perhaps we could have a slight gaussian blur over everything in the Suefic apart from the agents? That might get hard on the eyes after a while, though, since it would mean that almost everything on the screen would look slightly out of focus all the time the agents were on missions. -
Well, if we go the CGI route . . . by
on 2010-08-13 17:26:00 UTC
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Then we could have some fun with textures and quality. I always pictured Suefics as sort of like those awful Poser fanarts--maybe technically detailed, but lifeless, hollow-eyed, and doll-like. Putting a real actor (or at least a very well-done CGI motion-capture of a real actor) alongside one of these monstrosities would hit the Uncanny Valley hard. Provided it's lampshaded by the agents or something, so the audience knows it's intentionally bad.
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This is true by
on 2010-08-15 13:56:00 UTC
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It would have to be fairly obviously lampshaded, though, especially if we're going to go for an episodic format, so there might be new viewers for every episode. It would be fairly easy to just have a throwaway line like "Oh, this always hurts my eyes" or something, though.
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This is true by
on 2010-08-14 21:13:00 UTC
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It would have to be fairly obviously lampshaded, though, especially if we're going to go for an episodic format, so there might be new viewers for every episode. It would be fairly easy to just have a throwaway line like "Oh, this always hurts my eyes" or something, though.
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Blasted flaky internet... (nm) by
on 2010-08-15 13:59:00 UTC
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Urple= pink with purple light on it? Or purple glow? (nm) by
on 2010-08-12 21:37:00 UTC
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I picture the Words as an intangible version of the FF... by
on 2010-08-12 21:15:00 UTC
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...suspended in air. But knowing Hollywood, they'd probably be blue and script, and probably glow as well.
Actually, that sounds really Sue-ish. Maybe...maybe Words from canon writing and goodfic looks like what I first described, and Suefic Words look like the second? Hmm...
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I was thinking the Words by
on 2010-08-13 00:16:00 UTC
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Might look something like the symbols-in-the-mist from Assassin's Creed- but in reverse: normally you see the world, but if you concentrate you see a grey nondescript mist with the words scrolling around.
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That sounds pretty cool (nm) by
on 2010-08-13 11:52:00 UTC
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Re: I picture the Words as an intangible version of the FF... by
on 2010-08-12 21:32:00 UTC
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Fear of being a Sue stops creativity. Fear of being a Sue also stops Suethors. Two-way deal.
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Thinking... by
on 2010-08-12 20:18:00 UTC
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Well... by
on 2010-08-12 19:58:00 UTC
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And I dunno about the SO. by
on 2010-08-13 07:06:00 UTC
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I thought hS did an excellent job at the role.
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Plus, of course, John Cleese for the Lichen? (nm) by
on 2010-08-13 00:20:00 UTC
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Well, obviously. *g* (nm) by
on 2010-08-13 06:56:00 UTC
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Also: David Tennant for Dafydd Illian? *g* (nm) by
on 2010-08-12 19:59:00 UTC
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You're going to make that poor man... by
on 2010-08-19 15:30:00 UTC
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... learn to put on a subtle Welsh accent as well? I mean, he already does English and Scottish, what more do you want?
On the other hand: I endorse this wholeheartedly. But who gets to play his various women? :P
(Also also: Ehehehehe)
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*DIES AND IS DEAD* (nm) by
on 2010-08-13 05:11:00 UTC
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Not in my mind. But anything goes. (nm) by
on 2010-08-12 21:31:00 UTC
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I'm not up on contemporary actors... by
on 2010-08-12 16:10:00 UTC
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...but I'm thinking Lady Gaga as many of the Sues.
Various Dalek voice actors as Omicron, Charlie, and Fearn. John Leeson as K-9, of course.
Dustin's wings would probably be CGI. I'm not sure who would play him, Five, Tadkeeta I, Tadkeeta II, Tawaki I, Tawaki II, Tawaki III, Chrysocome, Del, or Madison. Any suggestions? -
Lady Gaga as Sues by
on 2010-08-12 20:14:00 UTC
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... I might have nightmares about that.
It's a pretty good idea, but I'm seeing her in that outfit she wears at the beginning of the Poker Face video, making out with Legolas. -
She probably can't act worth a damn... by
on 2010-08-12 21:17:00 UTC
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...But if she's playing a 'Sue, maybe that's a good thing?
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You sure about no rob pattinson? by
on 2010-08-12 12:48:00 UTC
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Given the way he interacts with the twilight fantards, I think he'd enjoy playing an agent.
Meanwhile one of the sues could be played by Megan Fox with the help of CGI (like her role in Transformers). There's probably a few other no-effort 'actresses' that could play other sues. -
Re: You sure about no rob pattinson? by
on 2010-08-12 17:04:00 UTC
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Well, no Robert Pattinson as Suicide. I was having nightmares of "Hollywood heartthrob" getting cast in a role that's totally inappropriate for him, just because it would bring in the fangirls. But you've got a good point--I do think he would enjoy being an agent, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a place for him.
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Hmmm.... by
on 2010-08-12 12:28:00 UTC
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Sues by
on 2010-08-12 10:07:00 UTC
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Sufficiently so. However, Liv Tyler- by
on 2010-08-12 19:39:00 UTC
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-is awesome, so I dunno if it would be good to plop her in as the elrondsdaughter role.
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Also... by
on 2010-08-13 04:43:00 UTC
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't good actresses generally also good at hamming it up beyond all logic? Plus, remember, she'd be playing and differentiating 50+ similar but not identical characters in one movie (or TV show), which would actually be a chance to show off some serious acting chops.
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True, true. by
on 2010-08-13 15:35:00 UTC
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You're all right. I just like Liv Tyler. She was excellent as Arwen. Who could be Luthien, by the way?
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Point, but... by
on 2010-08-12 20:19:00 UTC
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I was mostly thinking that many of them are carbon copies of Liv-Tyler-as-Arwen, so she'd inherently look right. And she'd be Arwen as well in this case, of course.
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Touche (nm) by
on 2010-08-12 20:24:00 UTC
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On the topic of movies... by
on 2010-08-12 06:52:00 UTC
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we did try to make a movie a couple of years back, or at least start planning for it; it was to be based on the 2008 Macrovirus and Mary-Sue Invasions. We were going to use drawn animations, and various PPCers were going to voice the characters.
Trojie and I were sort of masterminding it all, but Real Life intervened; we both got distracted and busy, and people had to drop out. We still have the notes and plans somewhere, but the movie itself is on hold indefinitely.