Subject: Well, there's the problem...
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Posted on: 2013-04-29 16:37:00 UTC
I didn't find very much funny. Maybe the jokes flew straight over my head each and every time I tried to read it, I don't know...
Subject: Well, there's the problem...
Author:
Posted on: 2013-04-29 16:37:00 UTC
I didn't find very much funny. Maybe the jokes flew straight over my head each and every time I tried to read it, I don't know...
I'm putting this in a new thread because I think it might fill up quickly with responses, as this question is about what seems to be a core element of PPC writing/characterization.
What is "Insanity", why does every living thing in the PPC have it, and why is it so important?
It might be better for someone to watch some Monty Python and other bits of British humour before writing for the PPC, because then they'd understand the sort of humour that goes into the PPC in the first place.
I know I didn't understand half of the jokes in the TOS when I first read it in sixth grade, but six years, more knowledge/experience, and plenty of British humour later, I can fully appreciate and write in the style of the TOS.
I've always thought they were Australian. I...don't quite know why.
Just remember that if you see an ancient Roman mural that looks suspiciously like Elrond in a museum.
Jay just... visits occasionally.
hS
I wonder how Acacia's getting along in ancient Rome.
And I may have to look into that "Elrond in a museum" thing.
Is it just me, or does 'Elrond in a museum!' sound like it belongs with 'Radagast on a Bunny Sled!' and all the rest?
After all, her jewellery spread all the way to Britannia... (about a third of the way down; you can search for her name).
She still gets occasional visits from her favourite flake, though. (Down at the bottom of the page - the italicised sections are canon, the rest is badfic)
hS
So now I'm being inspired to write badfic for FanFic Land, as well as hypothesizing that you're secretly an archaeologist who moved to Bath in order to find signs of Acacia's legacy. I do love conspiracy theories, don't you?
~DF
I know about the Corvid-the-Plaid incident, but I can't think of any others off the top of my head - and that one was pretty clearly to get in the joke (Istari being all male and all). What other examples are there?
hS
As I recall, Acacia was an androgynous Dead Man, whereas Jay was more masculine. And I think the British cheese elf persona may also have been male.
I'm not touting it as any form of canon, because it's not. It's just the feeling I got from Jay's characterisation when I read I this time.
Because the first time I read TOS, I was convinced that Jay was a guy. Huh. Apparently I wasn't stupid after all.
I'm serious; I kind of want to see how Jay and Acacia's partnership would change if Jay, Acacia, or both were male. I wonder how it would turn out...
~DF
Keep it up for the Badfic/AU fic Game. :'D
Will do :) When's the next one?
(Oh dear, this is going to end up so weird...)
~DF
although the last one happened in the fall. Ish.
Did I yell loudly enough? /innocence
Hm. I hope it's not in July...I'm probably not going to have much internet access then. That's probably going to be very annoying...I suppose I could always hand in a late submission or something.
~DF
The Fanficland badfic contests were usually in July, yes. The first FanficWorld one was in September last year. Either way, it's not for a while (and I'm thinking September to space it out better with the Shipfest).
That doesn't mean you can't start working on stories in advance, though...
hS
Hehe. Genderbending. The sixth form of 'Bending in ATLAverse.
Where Aang learned genderbending. I stopped partway through.
Existentialist invaders. Wow. I'd quote Holy Musical B@man at you, but I know you don't know it.
Can you write this? Somehow? I don't know where it would fit in, or to what, but it would be awesome :D
~DF
That is all XD
~DF
Except for the violence, sexism, oppression, and enforced gender roles, you mean? *raises eyebrow*
~Neshomeh
Good for the women, obviously. Not so much for the men.
Or anyone who didn't identify as a traditional gender/sex/sexuality combination to begin with. Or anyone who thinks that oppression is bad for humanity in general, no matter who it's happening to this time. >.>
~Neshomeh, who knows it was a joke, but still. Oppression is bad.
~Neshomeh
And that's even better.
Well, everything becomes better when the Doctor is in, I guess? He was instrumental in fixing HQ last time I saw him around...
Ride, please stop the operator, I wanna get off. @.@
~Neshomeh
The bit about the flipped oppression, that is.
~DF
Although now I'm picturing a Hunger Games-esque revolution...in a world vaguely like the Twilight-verse...
I should let go of that plotbunny while I still can, shouldn't I?
~DF
Let it grow.
Was that mental image influenced by Kirk+tribbles, by some chance? Because that's what it's reminding me of.
~DF
Scary, but fun!
Not sure whether I'll have access to internet there. And even if I do, I wonder if they'll mess with Google Chrome. Hehe.
Have fun!
My grandparents were actually just there. They said they had a great time...
~DF
The Marquis is described as being actually friendly to Jay and Acacia. Sort of. It's surreal.
I didn't find very much funny. Maybe the jokes flew straight over my head each and every time I tried to read it, I don't know...
Can you give me a link to a (safe for work) fanfic you did find funny? That way maybe we can figure out why TOS makes some (most?) of us burst out laughing, but leaves you unmoved.
hS
I haven't really laughed at any writing aside from my old, horrible stuff that because it makes me wonder what the heck I was thinking back then.
Then again, I haven't looked at much fanfiction or other writing in the first place because I'm usually doing music-related things or playing games or arrgh
Maybe I should set aside some time to actually do some reading for once in my life...
What about non-fanfic stuff? As the Constitution says, "Don’t worry about your interests being too eclectic for anyone else to be interested in — history has proven time and again that there probably is someone who shares your interests." Can you think of any piece of fiction that you've found funny recently, that someone here might have heard of?
hS
I used to laugh a whole lot at immature, idiotic crap, but I actively despise that kind of thing now, so...
Only very small things that literally are isolated incidents throughout multiple things, nothing really notable in all actuality...
So is this whole conversation basically "I'm blind; explain blue to me", or is there some nuance I'm missing?
hS
I used to laugh a lot more, but not at things I should have... Then again, didn't we all when we were that age?
As I still don't exactly understand what you're getting at.
Well, the way I see it, PPC Insanity is sort of quirky zany crazyness. It's making castles out of bread, or making your entire RC a pillow fort "just because".
It's important, because that's one of the main points of the ppc. Sometimes, when The Words take something literally, it can be horrifying, but most of the time, it should be silly. Like, if a description lists everything except pants, the character won't be wearing any.
...Making them do funny things because they're funny?
Making a character do something "just because" is something I usually try to avoid as much as possible while writing, as it seems like a bit of an excuse to me when I think about it. I prefer things having a reason rather than them happening just because it would be funny if... I don't know, someone started painting the walls with ketchup, or something.
Quirky zany craziness nails it. Doesn't compare to clinical insanity.
Also...
"Like, if a description lists everything except pants, the character won't be wearing any."
Is it bad that I did that to one of my agents?