Why not?

Subject: Why not?
Author: Sedri
Posted on: 2010-06-01 11:26:00 UTC

Just because we 'officially' name them "Bleepfics" doesn't mean we can't use other terms for them as well - "Worsefic", I imagine, is going to stay pretty common regardless of whether or not it makes a late break and wins the vote. I just wanted to get one 'standard' term so we could name a wiki article with it, but there's no reason the first line of that article can't be something like, "Bleepfics, also known as worsefics, AUGHfics, and many other such names, are..."

It's up to you. If you're writing a mission and your agents see "Code C" on the monitor, then whether they immediately translated it to "bleepfic" is a matter of your writing and their personalities. :)

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Calling for suggestions and votes! by Sedri on 2010-05-28 01:13:00 UTC Reply

As you may have seen, there's a thread below in which several of us have been discussing ideas for a new PPCish term. There are many badfics around which are brain-breakingly horrible, but not known by enough people (within our community, at least) to qualify them for Legendary Badfic status - after all, a thing can only really be legendary around here if most every board member (or agent) knows of it and shudders whenever a name such as "C*l*br**n" comes up. (I know, I know - don't kill me. *hides*)

Therefore, we would like to come up with a term for something that is a particularly bad badfic - something we can throw around in anger or frustration, because, let's face it, that's when it's most likely to be used. Here are the suggestions we have so far:

(from Tawaki:)
* Extremely Bad Fic

(from me:)
* ~~GodAwful Badfic~~ - eliminated because "GodAwful Fan Fic" is an existing website and we don't want to snitch.

(from Neshomeh:)
* Incredibly!Badfic
* Glaurunging Badfic
* Ewfic (not to be confused with Eufic)
* AUGHfic
* ODEfic (for Oh Dear Eru)
* HorriFic (complete with odd capital F)
* Horrorfic
* Abominable Badfic

(from anamia:)
* Bleepfic
* Painful Badfic

Personally, I support "Glaurunging Badfic", "AUGHfic" and "Bleepfic", because they're apt, fairly unique and fitting for the PPC, and roll well off the tongue.

I'd like to call for any more suggestions you might have, as well as support for or (tactful!) criticism of existing ideas, so we can create a shortlist and then, in a few days, vote. If any of you have good reasons why we shouldn't pick a new term at all, please say so.

RESULTS and Wiki Page by Sedri on 2010-06-02 01:16:00 UTC Reply

Well, it looks like Bleepfic has won. Still, it's so close, it wouldn't be fair to snub any of the other terms, since they're so popular, so I've made a new article at the wiki entitled Bleepfic, but all the major runners-up are mentioned there as well. Please, take a look and make any additions you like. I've also adjusted the Legendary Badfic page to reflect the new disctinctions.

Thanks to all of you for helping :)
Bleepfic. by Rosie Azrael on 2010-05-31 23:14:00 UTC Reply

Is sounds about right to me... *casts vote*
Shortlist by Sedri on 2010-05-30 01:32:00 UTC Reply

This is fun :)

Okay, we seem to have some clear favourites - the following have at least five votes each:
* Glaurunging Badfic
* AUGHfic
* Bleepfic

These have one vote each:
* Extremely Bad Fic
* Incredibly!Badfic
* Ewwfic
* ODEfic (for Oh Dear Eru)
* HorriFic
* Abominable Badfic

And these, which I'd like you all to look at, just to be fair, have been suggested since my first post (I assume everyone's looked at them already, but still):
* SickFic
* Worsefic (which has two votes already)
* Crukfic
* MorphFic
* Blechfic
* Squickfic
* C*l-level

A few arguments have been made against some of the options:
* Squickfic - could be used already to describe fics that are intentionally written badly
* AUGHfic - is rather generic
* Glaurunging Badfic - relies on obscure LotR knowledge (who Glaurung is)
* Bleepfic - relies on PPC in-knowledge.

Going purely by numbers, we seem to have a three-way tie, so if you all don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you'd vote again for one of the following three:
* Glaurunging Badfic
* AUGHfic
* Bleepfic
- or throw your vote in favour of one of the new or so-far-not-favoured options listed above.

Please only vote once, as it's rather hard to keep an accurate tally when people give me three favourites, in ranking order. Remember, we can always use 'losing' terms to refer to these fics anyway, just as long as we have one 'standard' that will be the title of the wiki article, for example. (Really, how many things around here have just one name? And it's not as though I'm going to jump down your throats for using the 'wrong' term...)

My vote is for "Bleepfic".

Bleepfic. by Calista on 2010-05-31 22:47:00 UTC Reply

I think we can probably assume we're going to decide on "Bleepfic"; it's six to two, now seven with my vote.

I like "C*1-level fic", or "Code C*l", too, like "Code 10" (for tenth walker fics); but Bleepfic is more casual and intuitive. Plus, we'd have to explain to the poor traumatized newbies where the "C*" came from, and that's just sadistic.

I like that one. :) by Sedri on 2010-06-01 01:30:00 UTC Reply

Just "Code C", maybe? It's hard to pronounce * marks. The experienced agents could use it, at least...

"Code C" sounds formal. by Calista on 2010-06-01 02:09:00 UTC Reply

So maybe that's the way it'd show up on the console readout when you PPC'd it; but most everybody would just call them "bleepfics"?

Why not? by Sedri on 2010-06-01 11:26:00 UTC Reply

Just because we 'officially' name them "Bleepfics" doesn't mean we can't use other terms for them as well - "Worsefic", I imagine, is going to stay pretty common regardless of whether or not it makes a late break and wins the vote. I just wanted to get one 'standard' term so we could name a wiki article with it, but there's no reason the first line of that article can't be something like, "Bleepfics, also known as worsefics, AUGHfics, and many other such names, are..."

It's up to you. If you're writing a mission and your agents see "Code C" on the monitor, then whether they immediately translated it to "bleepfic" is a matter of your writing and their personalities. :)

Worsefic! by Khajidu on 2010-05-31 21:17:00 UTC Reply

Bleepfic looks like it's about soothing goodfic.
Another vote for . . . by Twain on 2010-05-31 21:16:00 UTC Reply

Bleepfic.

Because it's easy to spell and pronounce, short to type, and perfectly expresses the emotion such fics evoke.
Not that you needed an explanation . . .
Hard choice. by Neshomeh on 2010-05-31 05:03:00 UTC Reply

I have to throw my support in for worsefic, though. It's so simple and elegant.

~Neshomeh
I'm quite fond of "worsefic". (nm) by Laburnum on 2010-05-30 14:11:00 UTC Reply
I support voting! by Barid on 2010-05-30 05:43:00 UTC Reply

Bleepfic is my vote.
I vote for Bleepfic (nm) by Firebird766 on 2010-05-30 05:07:00 UTC Reply
My vote by Tomato on 2010-05-30 03:16:00 UTC Reply

I vote for "bleepfic."
This is tough by Miah on 2010-05-30 02:41:00 UTC Reply

I really like Bleepfic and AUGHfic. I guess since this is going to be a PPC term that I will go with Bleepfic, because it is PPC-centric.

So my vote is for Bleepfic.

Bleepfic, definitly. by Edward Wilder on 2010-05-29 21:53:00 UTC Reply

AUGHfic is rather generic, Glaurung isn't restricted to the PPC (and some people might not know who he is), but I find the idea of a 'Bleepfic' automatically unnapealing and very PPC.
'Nother vote for Glaurunging Badfic by Wide Eyed Idealist on 2010-05-29 14:01:00 UTC Reply

(Although it feels weird to type that many -ng endings onto a word.) Failing that, Extremely Badfic.
(Horrorfic and HorroFic sound like a legitimate variation of Dark Fic or a term for crossovers with a horror movie.)

Can I nominate "The Horribly Bloody Death of Kairi" for the list?

Which list? by Sedri on 2010-05-30 01:15:00 UTC Reply

These terms or the list of eligible badfic? It sounds like a fic title. I think we'd better hold off in filling the category until after we've named it, though.

Re: Calling for suggestions and votes! by Somariel on 2010-05-29 13:01:00 UTC Reply

I like AUGHfic and Glarunging Badfic.
I vote for AUGHfic. by Miah on 2010-05-29 04:17:00 UTC Reply

It fits the heat of the moment usage quite nicely, and expresses the extreme frustration that is likely to be felt upon reading one of these.

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I like AUGHfic. by BattleHamster on 2010-05-28 16:21:00 UTC Reply

It gets the message across and rolls off the tongue nicely.
I believe "squickfic" has been used for similar purposes ... by Laburnum on 2010-05-28 11:18:00 UTC Reply

... but the glossary made by the BagEnders people gave the meaning of that as "fic written with the intention of squicking as many people as possible", and presumably most of the LBs weren't meant to be as bad as they are, so I don't know if that would work.
Names, eh... by Silikat on 2010-05-28 07:47:00 UTC Reply

I'd vote for Bleepfic, Glaurunging Badfic or AUGHfic, personally.
Suggesting away! by Dreaming of Colors on 2010-05-28 05:42:00 UTC Reply

Crukfic - "cruk" taken from Doctor Who.

MorphFic - wherein the Sue (or Stu) can morph into anything. Applies to Pokemorph fic and Animorphs fic.

Blechfic - NSFB fics. Grab the Bleeprin and the Suebuprofen.

Squickfic - NSFB. "Squick" taken from TVTropes.

C*l-level - on the level of C*l*br**n. Or beyond.
I like "Ewwfic", personally... by Techno-Dann on 2010-05-28 05:30:00 UTC Reply

Primarily because it doesn't rely on PPC in-knowledge, like bleepfic, or semi-obscure fandom knowledge, like who Glaurung is.
May I suggest... by Elcalion on 2010-05-28 05:27:00 UTC Reply

"Worsefic".

As in, there's badfic, worsefic, and worstfic (aka Legendary Badfic).

Elcalion, coining neologisms

I like it too. (nm) by Calista on 2010-05-29 19:53:00 UTC Reply
I like that. by Neshomeh on 2010-05-29 16:55:00 UTC Reply

Here's a nomination for Worsefic. {= )

~Neshomeh

It's either Bleepfic or Glaurunging Badfic. by WikiMaster on 2010-05-28 03:25:00 UTC Reply

I love those suggestions.

Final Choice is Bleepfic. (nm) by WikiMaster on 2010-05-30 02:24:00 UTC Reply

Re: Calling for suggestions and votes! by doctorlit on 2010-05-28 03:13:00 UTC Reply

I would suggest SickFic for the list of possibilities, if anyone else likes it. Of the choices already there, I like HorriFic the best.
My picks by Pretzel on 2010-05-28 02:49:00 UTC Reply

1.) AUGHfic
2.) ODEfic
3.) Incredibly!Badfic
My top three by Neshomeh on 2010-05-28 02:31:00 UTC Reply

In order:

1. Abominable Badfic - "abominable" is a fun-to-say and underused word, and very apt without being too specific.

2. Glaurunging Badfic - very PPCish, but harder to say aloud.

3. Bleepfic - also very PPCish. I only worry that all other things Bleep are good things, so people might get confused and think it means fic that takes the pain of badfic away, or something.

I'd like to take back "horrorfic," because that could legitimately describe any fanfic, good or bad, in the horror genre.

~Neshomeh