Do you know how Sue-wraiths are named?

Subject: Do you know how Sue-wraiths are named?
Author: Outhra
Posted on: 2013-04-30 23:41:00 UTC

Herr Wozzeck's higher-order wraiths were given Latin-sounding scientific names, but Neshomeh's was called a "ficubus". I'd need to read Ring Child to find out the traits of Neshomeh's wraith species, but this one is definitely not a conflictus creatrix or impetus miserabilis, and if this is a new higher-order wraith, which it probably is, it'll need a name. I also found another new higher-order creature myself in a Pokémon fic that replaces the entire setting with itself (short, but painful story), and that one will need a name, too. Do you have any idea how this sort of thing is decided?

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Fic to put on Unclaimed Badfic by Voyd211 on 2013-04-25 13:12:00 UTC Reply

Found this MLP:FiM fanfiction a year or two ago.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3764/mental-colt

Mental Colt - T rated.

-As Twilight bumps into a colt in the street, they decide that they should meet eachother again. In that process, Twilight finds out that he's mad for something else.

If I understand correctly, there's OOCness, altered geography, making ponies evil (the petty, disgusting criminal kind of evil), and this Casanova-type Stu named Ornald.

VOOOOLES by Voyd211 on 2013-04-30 13:09:00 UTC Reply

Behold a human-in-Matoran-Universe fic. Yes, this is Bionicle.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8058778/1/That-was-then-this-is-now

Surprisingly, aside from the whole "where the hell is the language barrier" thing, the main character doesn't seem to be much of a Sue.

No, if anyone's a Sue, it's the supporting character Rhya Nui, who claims to be the sister of Mata Nui (aka Bionicle-verse's version of Jesus, who contains the whole setting IN HIS BODY) and completely ignores the final arc with Bara Magna.

Any thoughts, besides "Rhya Nui Must Die"?

Ouch. by Outhra on 2013-04-30 16:25:00 UTC Reply

Nooo Rhya Nui what are you doing to my first fandom!

It's actually decent in terms of description of actions and such, but the Shadowed One is so OOC it hurts. He seemed perfectly fine for a bit, but then the human shows up and he goes "Oh look, someone showed up on my island; I think I'll inject her with a villainous fetus. None of that questioning or trying to figure out what a fully organic being the like of which hasn't been seen since Tren Krom's exile is doing on Odina, nope, fetus-injection time." And the "Turaga of Colour" that has a name with too many vowels just makes it even dumber. We'll need to kill her, too, not just because of her non-canon and moronic power scope, but because she was apparently a human named Sherrie who turned into a Toa at some point. Plus, she's aiding and abetting Rhya Nui, as well as another Sue named Kokua who is apparently a "hybrid" of a Toa and some unknown winged Rahi. Ugh, now I'm getting Custom Bionicle Wiki flashbacks. (takes another bite of Bleepolate)

It looks like Gearn, Bladair, and Cuife might be recruitable. They seem to have the beginnings of real personality, despite the fact that the story constantly confuses them with each other. Since the author claims that their names are Gaelic translations of insults, at least one of them might want to be renamed, though. A few of the other Dark Hunters might be recruitable as well, but after a few chapters, there are so many Matoran and Toa OCs that most of those should probably just be assimilated into canon, and the ones with gratuitous diacritic-sporting names should be renamed before that.

Of course, there are those Spirit things to be dealt with, and since the author apparently doesn't know that Great Spirit is a title given to the mind in charge of upkeep of their universe and not a species or rank, they appear to be literal ghosts. How would one kill a biomechanical ghost? Having biomechanical ghosts doesn't even make sense!

What about the human? by Voyd211 on 2013-04-30 17:09:00 UTC Reply

Rionna didn't seem Sueish from what I read, aside from (as mentioned) the lack of a language barrier.

Re: What about the human? by Outhra on 2013-04-30 21:36:00 UTC Reply

Well, since she's not terribly Sueish aside from the trans-dimensional hopping and a few other comparatively minor problems, most of those related to her ease of adaptation into the Matoran Universe, we might be able to recruit her if she agrees to take glitter reduction therapy.

Heck, I'm scanning through this now, and in the later chapters, she's practically the puppet of the principal Sues, Kokua and Anuenue. If we break their hold on her, she might want them dead as much as we do.

For added "fun", about half of the OC Toa have anime names. I had suspected it earlier, with the use of Japanese diacritics, but with names like Sheranu and Notegeku, I'm practically certain of it now. When the creation of so many OCs is combined with the fact that Anuenue displaced the Rahaga and the Voya Nui Resistance Team from their proper spots in space-time just to have more characters to toss around, it starts looking like this Suethor has no idea how character distribution is supposed to work.

Oh, and the Toa-Rahi("Torahka", according to the narration) Sue Kokua is silber. That's not a color I've seen often, but she's unmistakably silber, since she's described as "silver/blue hybrid" during one of the redundant description segments. I... just... it... no. Where's my laser cannon?

The name of the color. by Ellipsis Flood on 2013-04-30 22:23:00 UTC Reply

Silber is German for silver, in case you didn't know.

We actually don't seem to have a silver/blue Sue color. by Outhra on 2013-04-30 23:32:00 UTC Reply

When I checked the mission I heard of "silber" from, it said that it was mixed with glose, not blue, for whatever reason, so it wouldn't apply here. Drat. It's especially strange, since normally Sue colors tend to stay apart rather than create new Sue colors, but I suppose the decision on its component colors may have just been decided without checking for precedent. Or, possibly, in-universe, since the agents only looked at it for a few seconds before averting their eyes, it could have only looked like it was part glose. Maybe.

As for the color itself, the color "silber" was derived from a misspelling of "silver", so I'm pretty sure that it relating to the German world for silver is only a coincidence. It's good to know, though.

If the main character is not the Sue... by World-Jumper on 2013-04-30 21:30:00 UTC Reply

Then I would guess the agents could recruit her. After all, from what I have seen, she does not seem that bad. It will be interesting to see how it works, as usually it is the main characters who are the Sues. Hmm... Perhaps you could have the main character be a sort of puppet for the Sue to work though. Perhaps the Sue thought that if the focus was on someone else instead of her, the PPC would not kill her, or just ignore her story entirely. Add on being on Quotev, which has the 'no cut and paste' thing that is really very annoying, and she feels like she is even more secure against the PPC.

Wow. I just made the Sue far more clever then she probably should be. Do with my little theory as you wish.

It wasn't Quotev. by Outhra on 2013-04-30 21:42:00 UTC Reply

But other than that, I actually like your idea. It remind me of something the higher-order Sue-wraiths would get up to.

Combined with the various canons that are plucked off of their proper locations and the human plucked from a human-inhabited canon to serve as a decoy, we might actually have a higher-order wraith on our hands. And all of the uncanon Spirits... are ASPECTS OF IT OH CRAP OH CRAP OH CRAP.

Oops, sorry. by World-Jumper on 2013-04-30 22:22:00 UTC Reply

I can't read the story at the moment, and all the discussion about Quotev at the moment made me just assume it was hosted there.

By Luna's Mane, what is this monstrosity? If this Sue-wraith is as cever as we are makeing it out to be, we may have a serious threat here. I do not envy the poor soul who takes this thing on.

Do you know how Sue-wraiths are named? by Outhra on 2013-04-30 23:41:00 UTC Reply

Herr Wozzeck's higher-order wraiths were given Latin-sounding scientific names, but Neshomeh's was called a "ficubus". I'd need to read Ring Child to find out the traits of Neshomeh's wraith species, but this one is definitely not a conflictus creatrix or impetus miserabilis, and if this is a new higher-order wraith, which it probably is, it'll need a name. I also found another new higher-order creature myself in a Pokémon fic that replaces the entire setting with itself (short, but painful story), and that one will need a name, too. Do you have any idea how this sort of thing is decided?

I unfortunately know nothing about Bionicle... by DawnFire on 2013-04-30 14:34:00 UTC Reply

But this sounds awful. And somewhat interesting, since you said the supporting character is the Sue...not sure how many times I've seen that.

~DF

Ah, the Circle of Lemmings, A Harry Potter Fic by SingingTheThunder on 2013-04-28 10:22:00 UTC Reply

Eleven:

http://www.quotev.com/story/3091312/Eleven/

Summery: *Hermione Granger Sister Story* One night, the Granger family found a baby girl on their door step. Hermione had gotten a little sister (only by a year) and everything seemed perfect for the Granger family, all until their birthday.

First this starts out with the impression that the Sue is the daughter of Dumbledore, who is apparently evil and the heir of Slytherin. It takes a while to realise that the Sue is Voldemort's daughter and it took me about that long to realise that the Sue's mother was not Poppy Pomfrey, but instead an OC heir of Ravenclaw.
A bit off topic, but... by World-Jumper on 2013-04-26 20:56:00 UTC Reply

I did not want to make a separate post to answer a rather simple question, so I'll just ask it here. It's about my mission anyway, so it sort of is on the topic.

The antagonists of the badfic I'm killing (other then the Idiot Ball) are a new race of beings brilliantly named, "griffon/ changeling hybrids." Besides their blatant uncanon natures, these creatures are in the "griffon kingdom of Griffala," which is supposed to be the Griffin kingdom. Normally, I would say this is a mini, however, it turns out there is a breed of dog called griffons, as well as a species of vulture. My question is, is this a mini and they are still crossed with griffins, or do I have a Diamond Dog kingdom and hybrid race to deal with rather then a Griffin one?

I'd say the first. by Outhra on 2013-04-26 21:17:00 UTC Reply

Griffon is a legitimate spelling of the species name outside of MLP, and the diamond dogs aren't really connected to any dog breed in particular. Of course, spelling it "griffon" insideof MLP still makes a mini; that was never in question, but it's not a big enough shift for the Word World to start grasping at straws. Still, even with what I just said, if the story refers to a "griffon" individually and not in "hybrid" form, I think it would be funny to have that vulture show up.

Ah, my kingdom for permission by Voyd211 on 2013-04-26 13:02:00 UTC Reply

http://www.quotev.com/story/1832087/Sukai-Toppa-Gurren-Lagann/

It's a Suefic of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, AKA my absolute favorite anime series. Our Sue a) becomes leader of Team Gurren, b) hijacks Kamina's awesome speeches, c) has speshul hair and eyes that can only be found on Beastmen and Nia, d) romances Simon, when in canon Nia is his One True Love, and e) BUILDS a Ganmen in less than a week.

Besides that, there's all kinds of spelling and punctuation errors, and I found no fewer than six mini-spawning misspellings just in the first four chapters. Which makes me wonder what Gurren Lagann minis would be, but that's besides the point.

I want to throw this thing into the Sea of Despair.

//passes Bleepka by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-04-27 22:12:00 UTC Reply

I'm sure every person without permission has felt this way. Just trust in the PPC to ~~eventually~~ deal with it, and drown away your sorrows in this Bleepka that I'm too young to drink.

Twilight/TMNT crossover. Not even joking. by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-04-26 12:33:00 UTC Reply

~~Seeing as it's higher up than the last thread, and the last one is pretty big as it is, I'll just leave this here.~~

United in brotherhood, by pingu1997.
What if everything Bella had told the Cullens about her past was a lie? What if she had grown up in New York with four Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and a mutant rat as a father? So if everything was a lie, then what does Bellas past and future hold?

I flicked through it, and while I can't say for certain how bad it is, I'm fairly certain it's pretty bad. Not to mention there's bad SPaG. And it's a freaking crossover of Twilight and TMNT. Now, I'm no huge fan of either, but I'm pretty certain they won't go together that well.

Don't question why I found it. I was dared to go through Twilight crossovers and it caught my eye.

'Means changing and tweaking a few facts, but isn't that what fanfiction is all about?'
No, author, it isn't.

Wow. by Silken Dawn on 2013-05-02 15:59:00 UTC Reply

I originally read that as MLP/TMNT crossover.... and was astonished to see that it actually made LESS sense than that.

Oh lord, not Twilight Sparkle! by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-05-02 18:13:00 UTC Reply

Poor pony, having any relation to that fic ~~and story~~. But yeah, it makes completely no sense, does it? Who would even decide that was a good idea for a crossover? And yet, it's still updating...

What the Mordor? by Sevenswans on 2013-04-26 21:32:00 UTC Reply

That's so horrible it's amazing.

Just because people don't respond to a comment, by Outhra on 2013-04-25 15:45:00 UTC Reply

That doesn't mean they didn't see it.

If you have a badfic to put up, show it to the current badfic topic, which you did, or place it in the Unclaimed list yourself, which you could have done without starting a new topic.

Okay by Voyd211 on 2013-04-25 16:01:00 UTC Reply

That last point, I didn't know.

I was planning out posting some Lemming badfics there today. by Outhra on 2013-04-25 17:41:00 UTC Reply

I'll put this one up at the same time. Still, keep that bit about posting things yourself in mind for the future. Everyone reports badfics, so it's not something that should be brought up every time you find a new one. Maybe once you have a lot of them you want others to look at, or you have a really nasty one, or there's a current badfic topic up that you can put it as a response to, then you can bring out the badfic. If there wasn't a system, the Board would be swamped in "Look! I found another one!" topics.

We already had that one shown to us. (nm) by MAXinsanity on 2013-04-25 15:05:00 UTC Reply