Subject: Okay, if anyone doesn't think we've reached one...
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Posted on: 2010-01-21 23:52:00 UTC
Speak now (or before this thread drops off the front page), or forever hold your piece. Or some such.
In the meanwhile, congrats to Sedri and Trojie!
Okay... *takes a deep breath*, it seems Neshomeh was right - there aren't enough active PGs around. So, although I still really, really do not want it, I'm going to accept the nomination Neshomeh made in her post from ten days ago and stop hiding behind that "not officially a PG" notice of mine.
So, OpinionedAngel, orangedream? I'm looking at your requests now. I'll reply soon.
Also, to the Board in general - when the rest of the PGs come back, can I shrink into the background and pretend I don't have this job? I'm starting to see why Trojie flailed...
But while I do think you'd do a good job as a PG, you were only nominated to be one, not actually chosen, and I at least would feel more comfortable with this if at least two of the other PGs sanctioned/agreed/put forth the motion to the people who've been around longer than a month for a vote or whatever, especially between the fact that you don't specially want the duties and 'honors' that go with it, and that, again, it was only a nomination that was seconded instead of anything that was put forth for voting (despite Dann seconding it).
The only reason I stepped up and did something was becuase no-one else seemed to be around, which is exactly what Neshomeh was talking about - there was a Permission request almost a week old which seemed to have been forgotten.
That, and because our wiki article says that there's no established way to pick new PGs, but sometimes they can be directly selected by other PGs, which I suppose is what I think Neshomeh was doing.
Either way, you were right to do this, and I'm not offended. (Actually, I'm relieved. I don't like doing things without validation.)
Actually I concur with both: the Board definitely needs more active PGs (I know I've been pretty much gone of late), but traditionally we've put the nominations to a general vote of the Board as a whole. So shall we do that now?
The current nominations for new Permission Givers are Sedri and Trojanhorse. Anyone can make new nominations, and everyone gets two votes (everyone on the Board, that is. We don't want the general public all trying to vote -- messy). If you make another nomination, it's best to put it in bold in your subject line -- makes it easier to spot.
And yes, people can turn down nominations. Sedri implied Trojie already did so, but I can't spot that, so I've kept her in.
Votes on this thread, please. Voting closes when we've got a clear consensus.
hS
What do you think?
Now, do we need to reach a consensus that consensus has been reached?
I think a quorum would be fun. It's a fun word, so it must be fun, right?
Anyhow, I'm so glad to come back and see that this has happened, quorum or no. Congrats, new PGs! ^_^
Now that you have access to the Official Permission Giver Hat, I must warn you that it has strange appetites. Don't give in to them. Especially not during the month of June.
~Neshomeh
Speak now (or before this thread drops off the front page), or forever hold your piece. Or some such.
In the meanwhile, congrats to Sedri and Trojie!
... but when you're right, you're right. I also vote Sedri and Trojie.
For both Sedri and The Trojanhorse.
They are both active on the board and The Trojanhorse especially concerning missions. From what they write I think they have a good enough grasp on the English language as to be able to decide who may write missions.
Um, thank you all for saying such nice things! If it be the will of the majority I will certainly be a PG ... I suppose I should start pulling my weight around here :)
I also would like to cast votes for both Sedri and IndeMaat, both of whom I find to be extremely useful types and fantastic PPCers
*disappears to continue checking the vast backlog of email she accumulated whilst away*
Definitely vote for both; both good writers, and quick with the encouraging concrit, and they've both been around for quite a while now. (How many votes is a majority? Is there a deadline? Can we do a recount later? Do either of them have sponsors? Will there be mudslinging later? ...Can we have a mud fight, then? Those are fun...)
Way to go, guys! ^_^
I may not have been on here long, but I think they both deserve it.
I vote for both of them.
Sorry for not being around anymore (life happens...)
As an old PG, if you need any advice or help toss me an e-mail: letohaven@hotmail.com pretty much the only way to get ahold of me now.
Leto
Sedri.
Sedri is, like nearly everyone else has said, the first to go up with concrit for the person applying, and It's good stuff that she points out, too.
Plus, she's a dang good author.
Now, I don't have anything against Trojie, I'm just not that familiar with her writing yet, nor her criticing style..... or, anything, actually. I still have my second vote, mind. XD
Just some things I'm not clear on.
Can we give up PG status later if we want to?
And,
Do the two Permission responses I've given hold, or should someone else ratify them? (I'd personally feel better if someone did so anyway, regardless.)
Thanks :)
That's kind of like asking if you can give up membership of the Board. The ability to give permission doesn't mean you're required to, and people won't tell you off for not doing so -- they'll just try and get some more elected.
hS
I think I was panicking a bit when I asked that. I logged in to see a huge number of replies to my supposed-to-be-easily-ignorable little post and flailed. I'm all embarrassed now. Can we pretend I never asked? I don't really want to give it up, I just don't want a fuss over the matter.
I agree with both your responses - and I'm rather grateful that you went through and spent as much time on each as you did.
By sheer virtue of the number of missions she's written, if nothing else ;) But IndeMaat's been here a lot longer and I and has a lot of respect around here, so I'd vote for her.
Trojie... didn't exactly turn it down, as far as I know - no more than I did - but neither of us really wants the job. As long as there's another Permission Giver active, I'd rather stay out of it myself.
And likewise cast my vote for both Trojie and Sedri. I haven't been here excessively long, but in the time I've been around they've both shown themselves to be great sorts with plenty of knowledge and attention to detail.
*puts in two cents*
I don't think I've been back long enough to vote for either of them. However, I did notice that Sedri is quick to reply to permission requests and offer concrit.
Sedri and Trojie get my vote.
Trojie may have kittens when she gets back from Dunedin and find she's been elevated to the hallowed position of PG, but she'll cope, don't worry.
More like "hollow". It's not actually a big deal.
hS
They're good people, they'll do well.
...both Sedri and Trojie as well, but in the event that both or either of them do not want to accept it, I nominate IndeMaat.
I would also like to suggest that the rest of us step up more and also comment on newbie permission requests instead of just leaving it to the PGs. The more feedback, the better.
Because it's more fun that way. {= )
~Neshomeh, who is still alive.
Thanks for mentioning that. :)
I think they'd both do a great job.
I vote for them both. Sorry, Trojieface, but I think you'd be great at it.
All i've ever seen from them are good things.
I think she's often one of the first people to respond to a permission request with some comments on agents or the text.
I have a feeling though, she thinks this PG thing is a heavier burden than it actually is. Perhaps she thinks she will not be critical enough and let some bad apples slip through. I don't think she has to worry about that. Bad apples rarely request for permission.
But thanks for the reassurance. :)
I don't feel right giving final Permission for missions in a continuum that I don't know. If anyone who can be considered an oldbie would be willing to double-check orangedream13's first mission for me, I'd be much obliged. (And I'll need your email, if I don't already have it. I'm fanwritersedri@gmail.com)
It's really not related to any particular canon. It's just incredibly bad squick and nearly everyone is an OC
But apparently everything's official now, so I'd rather do it right. Don't worry, it won't take long.
If it's game-verse, I'm up on that canon. If it's manga-based? Haven't read them.
My email's vellwain at yahoo dot com
And I haven't a clue, but either way, you know more than I do. Once I recieve the mission, I'll pass it on to you. Cheers :)
For multiple reasons, of course. You'll do great, Sedri. ^_^
I appreciate your confidence in me.