Definitions

Subject: Definitions
Author: Neshomeh
Posted on: 2009-11-10 04:01:00 UTC

I'd say an original work intended and made available for viewing by a public audience is a published canon. I'd also say that parodies fall under that definition, since they operate with their own internal rules, separate from what they parody.

That said, we're the Protectors of the Plot Continuum, meaning that our aim is to preserve the various canons, not muck with them. If we don't happen to like them, we just leave them alone. If mucking with them is what you want to do, that's your business, but please don't do it under our name. That means no exploiting supposed loopholes to have a go at canons in PPC missions, whether you like the canons or not. Clear enough?

~Neshomeh, who would also like to point out that clearing up misconceptions like this is why we have the month-long probationary period.

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new recruit by orangedream13 on 2009-11-09 04:51:00 UTC Reply

My name is OrangeDream, I came here from TVTropes.org, and I like the idea of entering fictional universes and laying down the law. I haven't been able to get through LOTR yet (anyone know if It's public domain yet? I wouldn't mind being able to read it online), the universes I'm familiar with are One Piece, Sonic, Star Wars and of course Sonichu. one of the reasons i came here was because it owuld be interesting to see how we could take on and entire universe of mary sues instead of removing one from a regular canon.

Have a Bengal Tiger! (nm) by WikiMaster on 2009-11-11 03:47:00 UTC Reply

Re: Have a Bengal Tiger! by orangedream13 on 2009-11-11 21:25:00 UTC Reply

thanks, but does he bite?

Not humans, just mary sues. (nm) by WikiMaster on 2009-11-12 06:52:00 UTC Reply

*screeeech!* (pant pant) "Sorry I'm late..." by Maudlin Hart on 2009-11-11 02:15:00 UTC Reply

"Hhh...hhh... welcome to... the Board. *gasp* Please deposit... sanity... provided recep. Tacle. *indicates bucket marked 'Warg Fodder'* Shan't be needing it here. Oo, pretty lights..." *thump*
Hello! by tabbycat on 2009-11-10 07:38:00 UTC Reply

Nice to meet you! Here, have a glow-in-the-dark spork *hands it over*
Oooh. A newbie. :) by Cassie Cameron-Young on 2009-11-10 02:49:00 UTC Reply

*hands over a bag of pebbles and a Random Shiny Object* Been a while since I was around to welcome a new person in, so HIIIII! :D Welcome to the madness.
Er... fourth poke! by PitViperOfDoom on 2009-11-10 01:31:00 UTC Reply

Greetings, sir OrangeDream! (Is it a coincidence that the initials are OD? Just curious.)

Ah, One Piece. The 4Kids massacre of that anime completely turned me off it. Oh well. Good luck with your future missions! Have a Forrest Gump box of chocolates; it's just like life!

Re: Er... fourth poke! by orangedream13 on 2009-11-10 19:46:00 UTC Reply

thanks for the chocolate

Third poke and a Capillary Towel! by Sedri on 2009-11-10 01:08:00 UTC Reply

Welcome :) I believe the others have told you most of what you need to know, so I'll just stick to welcoming you.

And no, sadly, I don't believe Lord of the Rings is going to be public domain for a while yet. Good thing, too, or else we'd have no leg to stand on with PPC missions.
Hello, fellow newbie! by doctorlit on 2009-11-10 00:09:00 UTC Reply

Please accept this venomous invertebrate as a small RC-warming gift.
Re: new recruit by orangedream13 on 2009-11-09 20:05:00 UTC Reply

If the sonichu continuity isn't considered enough of a threat (by being too connected to the sonic and pokemon continuities) to justify collapsing it, then what if a mary sue (claiming to be a boyfriend-free girl) enters cwcville with the intent to create an army of sonichus?
Second poke! by Neshomeh on 2009-11-09 19:34:00 UTC Reply

Well, my second today. Your first, though. *pokes*

LotR is owned by the Tolkien Estate, I think, and I hope it always will be. Peter Jackson owns the slice of the pie that is the movies, though. And a lucrative and artificial sweetener-filled slice it is, too.

I might have a Sonic fic for you to tackle eventually, when you get Permission. I meant to take it on with a friend, but we never finished, and it is quite the blatant little Gary-Stu. I just don't know enough of the games to do it myself.

~Neshomeh

Re: Second poke! by orangedream13 on 2009-11-16 01:07:00 UTC Reply

sounds good. got a link?

Hi! by Cinnia Aine on 2009-11-09 12:29:00 UTC Reply

Welcome to the PPC! Here's a complementary set of daggers from the Raven Armory and a jug of bleepka. I wish we could take on canon Sues sometimes. However, it isn't allowed because it would sort of ruin the stories if most of the main characters were killed off. MSTing is allowed, though. (I was going to take on canon sues, too, in particular the ones on fiction press.)

Maybe we could create a splinter group or something. by khajidu on 2009-11-09 13:27:00 UTC Reply

I'd be in.

That would be awesome. by Cinnia Aine on 2009-11-09 16:47:00 UTC Reply

I'd love to take on the really trashy stories. MSTing them isn't quite as much fun as killing them. Rogue assassins FTW!

I really dislike Mary Sues. I'm not sure it would be quite legal to try to kill the Twilight characters, though. I mean, we'd be bored to death before ever finishing the first six chapters of the book. (What I find is funny on original fiction websites, is that some of the writers take being told that they write like SMeyer as a compliment. XD )

We couls also have other departments by khajidu on 2009-11-09 20:23:00 UTC Reply

like one for unvoluntary moral implications in the fic, one to make the world more original/less crappy/whatever, one to watch/check the fic/universe before the action departments come in, etc.
In the example of Twilight, I would send somebody to give lessons about healthy relationships, stalking, whatever, somebody else to kill the Cullens and Bella, somebody else disguised as regular vampires to tell the other vampires what they should look like, etc.

That's an idea... by Cinnia Aine on 2009-11-09 21:00:00 UTC Reply

It would definitely be more diplomatic. I can see some of the saner fans and antis accepting that plan, in a way. Not the fans who have "I love Edward Cullen" tattooed on their face, though. (Yet, a part of me just wants to drop an atomic bomb-or five-on the continuum and be done with it. :P)

Maybe we hould discuss this further. (nm) by khajidu on 2009-11-11 23:24:00 UTC Reply

Well... by Cinnia Aine on 2009-11-12 11:13:00 UTC Reply

I can be contacted through my fanfiction.net account. The username isn't the same as this one, but it's me.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1586082/
Or I can be contacted through live journal - my username is essi54.

OK. by khajidu on 2009-11-12 19:52:00 UTC Reply

I'll contact you by LJ (mine is the same name as here).

Fine by me. by Cinnia Aine on 2009-11-13 01:37:00 UTC Reply

I'll try to remember to check my LJ account more often. (As in, daily instead of weekly.)

Welcome. Here's a tall ship. (nm) by khajidu on 2009-11-09 08:30:00 UTC Reply
Welcome, have a plate of lembas :) by The Trojanhorse on 2009-11-09 06:05:00 UTC Reply

Admittedly it is a food from the Lord of the Rings, but if you think of it as shortbread you'll be fine :)

I must point out however that we're not allowed to kill Canon Sues. Points for the enthusiasm, but them's the rules :)

Re: Welcome, have a plate of lembas :) by orangedream13 on 2009-11-09 06:35:00 UTC Reply

Does Christian Weston Chandler/Sonichu really count as a canon sue in this case? I mean, the whole story is one big rant about how all women already have boyfriends and the mall cops wont let him stalk women. There really isn't much in the way of canon in the first place. You can find all of the sonichu "comics" as audiobooks on youtube if you havent already

It's not a continuum I'm familiar with by The Trojanhorse on 2009-11-09 19:08:00 UTC Reply

But if it's published, then no killing its inhabitants :)
Re: Welcome, have a plate of lembas :) by Unbridled on 2009-11-09 13:09:00 UTC Reply

*shrugs*

I'm as much as a newbie here as you, but I think by the very fact that CWC created Sonichu makes him untouchable, unfortunately. See, what he does in his own comics is well within the limits of the canon. It's a canon he created.

Or maybe I'm crazy. I dunno.

Re: Welcome, have a plate of lembas :) by orangedream13 on 2009-11-09 22:08:00 UTC Reply

The question is how to interpret
"publishing" and "canon." Are webcomics published? Are poorly done massively multiplayer crossovers canon? Does the fact that CWC claims his work is a parody (Which itself is an attempt to exploit a loophole) render sonichu noncanon? I'm definitely going to write a mission where I try to exploit loopholes like this

Definitions by Neshomeh on 2009-11-10 04:01:00 UTC Reply

I'd say an original work intended and made available for viewing by a public audience is a published canon. I'd also say that parodies fall under that definition, since they operate with their own internal rules, separate from what they parody.

That said, we're the Protectors of the Plot Continuum, meaning that our aim is to preserve the various canons, not muck with them. If we don't happen to like them, we just leave them alone. If mucking with them is what you want to do, that's your business, but please don't do it under our name. That means no exploiting supposed loopholes to have a go at canons in PPC missions, whether you like the canons or not. Clear enough?

~Neshomeh, who would also like to point out that clearing up misconceptions like this is why we have the month-long probationary period.

Re: Definitions by orangedream13 on 2009-11-10 19:54:00 UTC Reply

fair enough, but what about my other idea of having to stop someone else from messing with the canon and creating an army of mary sues? I would have to make up a mary sue character because CWC doesn't have any actual fangirls, but would it be acceptable?

Re: Definitions by Unbridled on 2009-11-13 07:03:00 UTC Reply

Has anyone written fiction of CWCverse?

Because if they have...brrrrr...

First plover! (nm) by Tawaki on 2009-11-09 05:00:00 UTC Reply