as everything, it depends

I have a question... by Cinnia Aine on 2009-04-18 18:29:00 UTC Reply

I was reading through some of the spin-offs and looking at some badfics when the thought occurred to me: What do you do about a badfic that has nearly all OCs? I found some with supposed "canon-character-descendants", but despite that fact, the canon characters weren't mentioned. I'm just wondering if the other agents kill it as usual or if they leave it alone. *shrugs*

as everything, it depends by Pads on 2009-04-19 03:39:00 UTC Reply

Depends on the OCs. What they're doing, and how they're doing it. You get some fics that are pretty much entirely descendants of canons, but the characters, while OCs, are well characterised, and their actions fit canon - there, we have no kill. Then we have fics where we recognise no names, it's all descendants, but they're all horribly WRONG, and they don't fit canon, and they warp the ideals, the standards and the laws of the canon. Then, even though they're all OCs, we can still kill. It's the spirit of the canon we have to maintain, after all.
Hrm~ by JulyFlame on 2009-04-18 18:45:00 UTC Reply

In that case, I'd say it would depend on a few factors.

Is it in the canon world? -Big deciding factor~.

If it is, does it warp the canon world? Just having it be a mediocre fic with WTF characters in the canon who happen to be related to canons might not be enough.

Does it contradict anything canon? - This is the important thingy, PPC wise I believe. (Boring story is one thing, boring characters another, but when they start breaking things...!~)

Are the OCs plausible as descendants of the characters they're supposed to be related to? - As in for example, no, OC may not be the grandchild of Captain Jack Sparrow via the good captain's MPreg baby. (Captain Jack of Torchwood however is plausibly allowed an MPreg baby since Torchwood canon seems to have an anything goes policy when it comes to sex.)

In short, it's a big question of is this a bad fanfic, or is this a bad original story?

In other words, is the fic actually plac

More information: by Cinnia Aine on 2009-04-18 19:15:00 UTC Reply

Well, I only looked at the ones that really seemed like badfics. Here's what I found in them that might help:

- They were in the canon world.
- It ripped off a book's entire plot.
- At least two, (if not more), OCs were supposed descendants of canon characters that had none.
- The one canon character that was in the one of the badfics was totally out of character, besides contradicting the laws of science. (She was in the story even though she was supposed to be dead by then.)
- They had modern songs with a few words replaced to fit the timeline.
- Almost every OC had Mary Sue qualities.
- The badfics didn't make any sense half the time.
- There was bad grammar and spelling.

Does that deem the badfics killable? As in, if I ever found some more of these and put them in the Unclaimed Badfics section of PPC's wiki, would another agent kill them?

Definitely. by Techno-Dann on 2009-04-19 01:40:00 UTC Reply

"Being descended from a canon character" isn't chargeable - if it was, we'd have to kill off most of the Silmarillion. "being descended from a canon character who had no offspring" may be chargeable, depending on how definitely said character had no children. Neither is reason enough to assassinate on their own, but the second is a charge worth adding to the official list, if it isn't on there already.

As for the story, I'd definitely call it killable. There's a whole pack of sues, the other things are icing on the cake. (yummy cake)
Yep, that'd make it killable. by JulyFlame on 2009-04-18 19:17:00 UTC Reply

And not necessarily, because while people do claim fics from the list, they don't always- it's a supply and demand thing. Sometimes they like finding their own fic to PPC, or what's on the list isn't exactly what they need for whatever reason.

But hey, go ahead. If it's a popular fandom, good chances.

Ignore that last line~ *smite enter key* (nm) by JulyFlame on 2009-04-18 18:50:00 UTC Reply

Personally... by Cassie Cameron-Young on 2009-04-18 18:41:00 UTC Reply

I'm of the opinion that if they're using a Canon world and claiming to be descendants of a canon character, especially if said character either has no descendants or they're already accounted for, then it's still killable.

I'd either kill if they were Sueishly bad, or recruit. I did so in my second mission when a Sue created two new kids for Aragorn and Arwen so that she could play babysitter. I offed the Sue and recruited the kids, both of which are now happily in the PPC Nursery. (See http://cassie5squared.livejournal.com/13973.html#cutid1 for details)