Hold on, I have an idea about those italics.

Subject: Hold on, I have an idea about those italics.
Author: Outhra
Posted on: 2013-04-18 15:49:00 UTC

Well, the only "ghosts" in Star Trek were the anaphasic entities, like the one in that grob-awful TNG episode where Beverly Crusher's grandmother dies and then everyone decides to spend weeks on the Scotland Planet for some reason. Disregarding the episode's quality, the anaphasic entities were more like psychic parasites than they were like ghosts, despite how the one from the Scotland Planet's entire character seemed to be based on saying "No, I'm a ghost, really I am!".
There are a few species that can rip out someone's mind and toss it into space, like the Ux-Mal were, but that's not becoming a ghost, that's just extremely cruel and unusual punishment.

With the absence of real ghosts in the continuum, I'd worry about the continuum taking the next best thing and manifesting him as a Thasian. They were probably the most powerful beings in TOS, and your agents definitely would not want Telekinetic!Thasian!Emotional!Ghost!Spock running around the place.

However, if there are no Ghost Rules implied at all, you may be able to impose an outside continuum's Ghost Rules on Ghost!Spock, similar to how an agent can impose a canonical surrounding on undescribed badfic locations. Then, you could just deal with him however the canon you chose deals with ghosts.

Maybe the agents could pretend to ally with Emotional!Spock as a distraction for fighting Ghost!Spock, tricking the former into thinking that he'd be able to assume Spock's position if he won, and then trap them both when they start going for each other's throats. It'd be a rare opportunity, since a Suvian entity rarely displaces another Suvian entity unless the one it replaces is a Canon Sue.

I'll read the songfic later. I'm planning out a few story ideas right now, and I'd like to be sane for that.

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Fics! by Desdendelle on 2013-04-10 20:43:00 UTC Reply

Bad: Sword Art Online: Alex's Adventure, rated T, by Darkninja20.
This story follows the main storyline of Sword Art (until the 75th floor) but it follows my OC's adventure and travels throughout the land of Aincrad as he makes new friends and new enemies. My story has some thing the light novel/anime do not, if you don't like the changes, don't review and stop reading. New branched off story: Sword Art Online: Alex's Adventure-Original Path
Sigh. Bad SPaG, Copycat-Stu copying Kirito, being OP, etc. Also first person. Ugh.

Good: Diary of a bitter player, rated T, by Lucenthia.
This is my first post so please give tolerance and feedback. Feedback especially. Not much to say. Hope I don't get kicked out due to some of the foul language I inserted. All towards the characterization of the main character. Also, I don't know what each rating stands for so I'm sorry if I selected an inappropriate one.
Much better. Good SPaG, interesting idea, and a believable PoV character. It's written in diary format, but it does not seem to hinder it overmuch.

Just added all the badfic reported here to the wiki list. (nm) by DawnFire on 2013-04-19 13:40:00 UTC Reply
Aaaargh. (Star Trek bleepfic/songfic) by DawnFire on 2013-04-17 22:41:00 UTC Reply

So, it's back. It's got 67 chapters now. And Spock has gained a 'ghostly' smile.

Can I just--? Do you mind if I share my horror, terror, and disgust (and hysterical laughter) with anyone reading this? Because I kind of need to so as not to go insane.

He's--Spock's got a ghostly smile. And--and Kirk giggled! My eyes! And Scotty kissed a mini-tribble--no, wait, I think it was Scottie, which means--aaah, I just read about one mini-tribble kissing another mini-tribble! What the--

Ok, ok, let's try to calm down...

Anyway. Spock sings to squirrels. Bloody *squirrels*. And there's a repeated misspelling of t'hy'la (or am I misspelling it too, and it's t'hyla? No, I think there are two apostrophes. At any rate, it's definitely not thyla!) And--Spock's way too emotional. We may as well just give him a human name, take away the Vulcan appearance, and make him a human with a constantly contradiction reputation for being very controlled. Because he's extremely obviously a replacement and I think I may go watch some ST:TOS now, kay?

Oh, and since when does anyone call Scotty 'Monty'? That may be the worst nickname I've ever heard.

And they've massacred "I Won't Say I'm In Love". That's one of my favorite Disney songs. Ever. And Janice Rand, who shouldn't even *be* there since she's not in AOS, sings Meg's part, with Gaila (or her mini-tribble counterpart), Uhura, and Chapel singing the Muses' part. Have I mentioned that I hate this fic and it's breaking my brain?

Right. TOS. I'm going to go load it now; I need it. And a giant bar of Bleepolate.

~DawnFire

You didn't link to it so we could recoil at its badness. by Outhra on 2013-04-18 01:47:00 UTC Reply

Still, even the idea of Spock singing to squirrels made my eyes twitch.

Great, now you've got a grinning Spock ghost to get rid of. I'd recommend getting something from one of the many ghost-battling universes to capture it. A Proton Pack from Ghostbusters would probably be a good choice, but they only had what, four? I'm pretty sure one of the canons would notice two teenagers jumping in, snatching his ghost-busting equipment, and absconding.

Okay, there are people in need of cheering up, I just made a Ghostbusters reference... This seems like a good time to link to the song Thunder Busters. Not that there's ever a bad time to link to Thunder Busters, but this time seems like it would be more appropriate than most.

Oh, you want a link, do you? by DawnFire on 2013-04-18 12:29:00 UTC Reply

Then a link I shall provide. Here you go: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8860223/1/rare-musical-moments-on-the-USS-Enterprise It was nice knowing you.

Oh, great. Flaming Denethor, does that mean I have two Spock replacements to deal with now? Emotional!Spock and Ghost!Spock? Maybe the ghost bit will reverse itself...but it's mentioned in three different chapters...hm. Great. Emotional!Spock may have fallen into a plothole and been replaced by Emotional!Ghost!Spock.

...surprisingly, this discussion is making my brain hurt much less than the actual fic does.

Also, if you go here and scroll to the fourth listing, there's a link to the Board post where I originally mentioned it and nominated it for Bleepfic status. I stand by that post so, so much.

Hm...maybe Ghost!Spock would have the same rules as Supernatural-style ghosts? Except I've no idea where his bones would be to salt and burn...then again, there (fortunately) isn't a SPN crossover in this, so I suppose it's...something else. Who knows.

Maybe it'll reverse itself? Ugh...

AC/DC? You have my attention. Seriously, if there's one thing Supernatural did, it was to expand my music tastes.

And now, just to complete the amazingness that is this song, I shall quote Doctor who:
Ten: 'Who ya gonna call?'
Rose: 'Ghostbusters!'
Ten: 'I ain't afraid of no ghosts.'

Love that scene...and I've never seen Ghostbusters at all. Ever.

Thanks for sharing the song :) Here's some Swiss Bleepolate to counter the brain-melting nature of the songfic, if you're determined to read a bit of it. I recommend using real chocolate as a placebo; it helps a little.

~DF

Hold on, I have an idea about those italics. by Outhra on 2013-04-18 15:49:00 UTC Reply

Well, the only "ghosts" in Star Trek were the anaphasic entities, like the one in that grob-awful TNG episode where Beverly Crusher's grandmother dies and then everyone decides to spend weeks on the Scotland Planet for some reason. Disregarding the episode's quality, the anaphasic entities were more like psychic parasites than they were like ghosts, despite how the one from the Scotland Planet's entire character seemed to be based on saying "No, I'm a ghost, really I am!".
There are a few species that can rip out someone's mind and toss it into space, like the Ux-Mal were, but that's not becoming a ghost, that's just extremely cruel and unusual punishment.

With the absence of real ghosts in the continuum, I'd worry about the continuum taking the next best thing and manifesting him as a Thasian. They were probably the most powerful beings in TOS, and your agents definitely would not want Telekinetic!Thasian!Emotional!Ghost!Spock running around the place.

However, if there are no Ghost Rules implied at all, you may be able to impose an outside continuum's Ghost Rules on Ghost!Spock, similar to how an agent can impose a canonical surrounding on undescribed badfic locations. Then, you could just deal with him however the canon you chose deals with ghosts.

Maybe the agents could pretend to ally with Emotional!Spock as a distraction for fighting Ghost!Spock, tricking the former into thinking that he'd be able to assume Spock's position if he won, and then trap them both when they start going for each other's throats. It'd be a rare opportunity, since a Suvian entity rarely displaces another Suvian entity unless the one it replaces is a Canon Sue.

I'll read the songfic later. I'm planning out a few story ideas right now, and I'd like to be sane for that.

Hey, my idea worked! I'll have to remember how I did that. (nm) by Outhra on 2013-04-18 15:50:00 UTC Reply

Oh, for the love of-- by DawnFire on 2013-04-18 12:31:00 UTC Reply

Well, at least my prediction came true: I finally did forget to close the italics properly, and didn't preview. And this happened. Sorry.

~DF

You italicized all of the titles, but only for this page... by Outhra on 2013-04-18 14:52:00 UTC Reply

How does that even work? Will the italics spread to the next page when this thread is eventually bumped from the first page? Well, at least the text in those posts below yours weren't affected by the italics, as far as I saw. Maybe we should get someone to try and fix the titles, though.

Rune Factory badfics, ugh by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-04-13 21:11:00 UTC Reply

There are some fandoms that have a pretty small amount of fics, which, unfortunately, makes it a lot easier to find badfics. I'm part of too many of these sorts of fandoms.

Anyway, all of these are Rune Factory 3 fanfics, all rated T.

Half-Breeded-Kitty, by Mirakira98.
Mary Sue who can transform into a non-canon monster (i.e. a catgirl, I kid ye not), bad SPaG, OOC canons, and a whole chapter that says 'Sharon' in place of 'Shara'. Also it's 17 chapters. I skimmed three, and had a peek at 16, which includes a potion turning her into a man. Although admittedly, that's probably in character for the girl who made the potion.

Rune Factory 3, by Twilightcrystalflame.
Mary Sue again, called Platina, who is obviously going for the dwarf blacksmith. Very imaginative name there. A complete lack of SPaG, including hige chunks of un-paragraphed text and many missing spaces. Pointless POV changes, the first of which also includes a switch from third person past tense to first person present tense. Obviously not a one shot, but is still only the one chapter. Plus the title of the fic is the name of the game it's based on. Imagination combo x2!

Sleep Over Fun!, by digimonfan4ever101.
Bad SPaG. ("Uuuh… sorry! We thought you make party!" apologized Sakuya, the rest is bowed to him.) The writer's profile says they're from Indonesia, but they should still have used spell-check and a beta. And they made a guy do farm work in his boxers.

Re: Rune Factory badfics, ugh by Silken Dawn on 2013-04-17 02:30:00 UTC Reply

Ooh! I saw "Rune Factory" and thought, "Here's one I can do!" ...but I only played 1 and 2. Hmm. Maybe it's close enough that I'd know what's going on in a RF3 fic?

Re: Rune Factory badfics, ugh by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-04-17 09:17:00 UTC Reply

Well, the game basically works the same, really. There's only the obvious differences (characters, places, storyline). I'm not sure how much you could do with them without knowing the characters, though. Some of them are a little odd. ~~Like the two who speak in opposites.~~

Harry Potter badfic by Lilac Lielac on 2013-04-13 17:54:00 UTC Reply

OWOWOWOWOWOW: The Slytherin Princess, wherein Harry is replaced by a Sue, Ron and Hermione are replaced with moneygrubbing prats, Dumbledore is replaced with a thieving JERK, and the Sue is Snape and Lily Evans's biological daughter. HUZZAH. Also, at least one mini-Aragog so far: anyone want Mivera?

I'll be claiming it for sporking by my agents Kayla Morrison and Lee Freeman, because Lee needs a mish.

Ow my eyes (nm) by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-04-13 19:59:00 UTC Reply

I don't know that fandom... by Karen on 2013-04-10 23:22:00 UTC Reply

But I took a glance at the goodfic, and it looks interesting. I'll have to check that fandom out!
Oh god I think I've seen that SAO one. ._. (nm) by Stargazing Sketcher on 2013-04-10 22:43:00 UTC Reply
Well... by firemagic on 2013-04-10 21:18:00 UTC Reply

Two Harry Potter/Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha crossovers:
Bad: [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9150941/1/Star-Class Star Class]] rated T

"DoM! Year 5/6-AU: He had his past stolen repeatedly because his soul was too stubborn to stay under the control of the light. Yet he only wanted his freedom. He finds it when he tries to die to keep his free will. By chance he finds freedom in the year 2245, where an advanced Earth, & universe awaits exploration, with new friends & dark new enemies! Will he get home, & Justice...?"

Oh my god. This... this... OK, just assume that everything even vaguely referred to is replaced and you'll save yourself the brain damage from hearing Harry use the phrase 'shitty titties'. I... I honestly skipped chapter three and briefly scanned four, so I'm only kinda sure that the world they land on is Mid-Childa, but given that they refer to Command Seals there might also be some Nasuverse stuff?
WARNING: Detailed description of how Harry is going to torture Hermione. Death and probably a lot of stuff that I missed so yeah.

Bad: [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9022884/1/Grey-Side-of-The-Feather Grey Side of the Feather]] rated T
"5th Year AU! Harry Potter/Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha cross-over! After the events of the Triwizard Tournament, the Ministry is against Harry, whose eyes have been opened to the betrayals around him. Plus with two new teachers along with transfer students are coming to the school. Molly, Ronald, and Ginny Weasley/Granger Bashing. Supportive Dumbledore."

Got your stereotypical Weasleys-stealing-from-Harry bashing, some nonsense stuff about how Wizard inheritance law works, and an obvious lack of knowledge as to how Nanoha-verse magic and Devices work.

And a pair of Nasuverse humorfics (well, one oneshot and one two-parter)
Good: [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8746660/1/Sick-Time Sick Time]] rated T
"Rin does not get sick often. And when she does, she does not take it well, much to the dismay of her beset-upon Archer. But still... there really should be a LIMIT to just how badly a little cold should be taken. Written for Elf. Hi, Elf!"

Good: [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8156146/1/Behind-Closed-Doors Behind Closed Doors]] &[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9081275/1/Family-Affairs Family Affairs]] Rated T
"Returning home after a long battle, the girl known to the world at large only as 'King Arthur' seeks naught but a brief respite from her troubles. Alas, circumstances rarely cooperate..."
"In this pseudo-sequel to 'Behind Closed Doors', the great King Arthur prepares for war with her noble knights. Unfortunately, Lancelot has a minor surprise for everyone, including himself..."
Warning: Sex happens. Not described in any great detail, but yeah. Though it is quite funny and includes the line, '"Of course, and a title well-earned, for thine moves art both cool and funky-fresh, for certain," Arturia said, always one to admit the skill of her knights.'

Must... resist... temptation... by Desdendelle on 2013-04-10 22:43:00 UTC Reply

I really want to co-write one of those badfics with you, but...

Aw, this one isn't finished. by Outhra on 2013-04-11 02:21:00 UTC Reply

It seemed good so far, though. I know I missed one typo that I forgot to write down, but for another, "saw everything treble" should be "saw everything tremble". Having an appearance by "Glimi" should summon a mini, too, unless Glimi is going to be treated as the "immortal" Gimli-replacement. I've seen it go either way in cases like that whether it makes a mini or not.

I like Agaorn the mini-Balrog. I'd probably adopt him if my agents-to-be were the sort of people who'd be okay with the possibility of their RC catching fire.

Nope, it's not finished. by Desdendelle on 2013-04-11 16:53:00 UTC Reply

Army + writer's block = unfinished missions. BTW, it should be 'treble'; it's treble as in three times, not 'tremble' as in shaking.
And yes, Glimi is the replacement.

I am a failure at formatting (nm) by firemagic on 2013-04-10 21:18:00 UTC Reply

At least you didn't screw up the HTML. :D (nm) by Ellipsis Flood on 2013-04-10 22:13:00 UTC Reply