Subject: Re: that sort of thing, yeah
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Posted on: 2008-11-09 09:05:00 UTC
No, it hasn't been explicitly stated I don't think, just alluded to. Bend your brain if you want, but I think the rest of us just assume it works and leave it at that. Could be cool though. :P
In a fic I'm sporking at the moment, Ron Weasley is turned into a girl and impregnated. We can use the Embryo Extraction Kit to take it out before we turn him back, but where do we put it afterwards? The fic has also turned the agents killing it into the opposite gender, so only one of them now has a uterus, and as soon as "she" leaves the fic he'll go back to being male. Should we take it out after they turn back? Does Doc Fitz have a tube or something to incubate it in?
Maybe this should be that "disconnected" mission for the DMSE&R...send that baby to us!
For non-lethal testing hopefully. Most babies are raised to be non-Suvian and future Agents.
We can compare embryos and see whether Suvian babies and human babies are alike.
Not only that, but I'm pretty sure the PPC does not condone killing infants. We kill Sues, yeah, but killing babies is just abhorrent. Considering we raise them to not be Sues and as future agents (ever wonder why the daycare's referred to as "agent training"? :P), that's even more reason for non-lethal tests.
After all, there aren't that many Suvian babies about. If they all were tested to death, you'd rapidly run out of test subjects.
We do kill Sue children though. Have there been any actual Sue babies, as opposed to the children of Sues, and if so, what happened to them?
It got spontaneously aborted in a rather unpleasant manner because of the location of the plothole containing the real Mariel. Yes, it was where you're thinking it was. Fitting for such a gross story, but not at all fun for the agents to watch.
In Trojie and Pads' Mpreg mission/s (there's at least one unreleased), it's implied that the Medical dept. have tube kind of environments for babies that have no receptive uteri nearby.
So pretty much the prenatal pods Arctic mentioned?
I'm not sure if their structure and functions have been explicitly stated in any mission. It will need a blood supply and a nutrient feed at the very least.
Hmm, maybe I should bend my brain to working out what one of these pods would be like?
No, it hasn't been explicitly stated I don't think, just alluded to. Bend your brain if you want, but I think the rest of us just assume it works and leave it at that. Could be cool though. :P
Marsha, Moses and Molly, Spencer Black, this one, then eventually the creepy little buggers from the Naruto fic ... (I think when we get round to that last one I shall name the kitten Pompom. Gender-neutral because it's a hermaphrodite, suitably cutesy, and "Uzumaki Pompom" is a great name.)
Not sure what to do with this foetus, because it's only been developing for a couple of days, and all it's done is be cause for sad attempts at angst and a pro-life rant from the author.
They'll take care of it :)
Are we talking only two days since conception here? Because, first, how the hell does the thing's mother know after two days? Or is this another Sueper power? And second, that's not a foetus. Is that even a zygote yet? Whatever the technical name, if it's only two days since conception, your agents aren't even going to be able to see, with the naked eye, whether it's in whatever tube they decide to put it in.
I suppose spiking the mother's drink with the morning after pill is out of the question?
Ron was, for various ridiculous and unexplained reasons, turned into a girl and transported to a weird alternate dimension which looks sort of like The Arabian Nights except everyone has Japanese names, ended up posing as a handmaiden to the Princess Sue, and was randomly raped by a guard (see, that's why guards in Real World harems were eunuchs). Doctor employed by the Princess heals "her" up and casts a spell to see if "she's" pregnant ... so actually it's a couple of hours, not a couple of days. Should sperm even have met egg yet? But then the story goes on for a couple more days, so it'll be implanted and such by the end.
(Then Ron's quite understandable fright is literally handwaved by the Princess saying "oh, women get emotional when they're pregnant!", thus making me want to go on a homicidal rampage, and the characters are used as mouthpieces for an anti-abortion rant. And it turns out that Draco doesn't know what abortion is - I really doubt the wizarding world would be totally ignorant of that concept ... hehe, "concept", excuse pun. See why I want this fic to die?)
You'd be best off checking with one of our resident biologists to see if sperm would have met egg after two hours, but I suspect not.
I would be interested to know how this spell to see if transgender!Ron is up the duff works. Again, we must turn to the biologists, but two hours after intercourse has taken place, there aren't really going to be any chemical or physical or hormonal differences in the body to detect. So unless this spell is basically a powerful microscope crowbarred into transgender!Ron's newly deflowered lady bits... You know what, I'm not even going to finish that sentence. The mental images are getting too weird.
If the author's using this fic to broadcast her anti-abortion stance, then I'm leaning even more towards the spiking option. However, there's an easier option. A ridiculously high proportion of pregnancies spontaneously abort, for a variety of reasons. I'll bet the mother changing gender would be a good enough reason.
Can we have a link to this trainwreck of a fic?
http://community.livejournal.com/wtffanfiction/23185.html has a link to the fic and the Pottersues report.
I kind of wanted to save the embryo so we can have a scene where Girl!Stormsong throws a fit when they ask to implant it into "her". The anti-abortion bit was only a few sentences, but it was annoying beyond belief even so.
I see there's an "advanced growth process" in whatever the hell dimension they're in. This advanced growth process has, by the author's admission, two weeks of foetal development packed into two hours. So we're talking, what, forty hours' gestation? He's going to have horrendous stretch marks.
It's not clear how far along he is by the end of the fic so far. It can't be more than a couple of days, but at that rate of growth ...
Not really sure what to do with sproglet if we do keep it. We don't even know whether it's a boy or a girl. Just let it disappear into the depths of the Nursery and/or give it up for free use by anyone who wants it?
That's where all babies end up. Even claimed ones. (Spencer's certainly not going to be looked after in RC#45.) They'll look after it alright, whatever it is.
And yes, he'd be about to pop by the end of it. You might even be able to have him give birth as a woman before sending him back, as it'd be easier than an impromptu caesarian. And pray to Glod reverting to male deals with the stretchmarks.
Dunno if life as a healer for a nomadic gang of vermin leaves one with many midwifery skills, but Stormsong would probably know enough to get by if Doc Fitz doesn't get there for whatever reason.
Could be called a zygote, but you'd already have cell division after two days. It's an embryo up until the seventh or eighth week, at which point we call it a foetus.
I'd say spike the drink.
I knew there was another word, it was just hiding and refusing to let my brain access it. Thank you!
Well, at least whatever use we find for it will be better than the author's. :P
Or something similar. Maybe that pod thing used in Kyle XY to house him during his development?
I think I've heard something about that mentioned on the wiki, especially since embryos extracted by the kit and put in the nursery would have to be born somehow. It's a logical answer to the problem of not having a readily available surrogate mother, at least until one is found. I mean, in that kind of situation it's a choice between something like that or letting the embryo die, almost.