Subject: Canonical vs. Not uncanonical? (nm)
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Posted on: 2014-05-14 04:26:00 UTC
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I tried to read a badfic, but couldn't by
on 2014-05-13 14:19:00 UTC
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8890365/1/The-fate-of-one
Why would someone put that much effort into a troll-fic? I'm trying to figure out why this monstrosity exists. The only thing I can think of that it's a blind-idiot translation from an obscure pictograph-using language. -
Excuse me while I... by
on 2014-05-14 19:28:00 UTC
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Hijack the thread to alert you to several Legacy of Kain fics. (You said you were looking for them, right?) https://www.fanfiction.net/u/179403/Time-Jumper I haven't read them, but this author does have a story on the Unclaimed Badfic list, so I figured the others were of similar quality. (Forgive me any accidental author-bashing.)
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Re: Excuse me while I... by
on 2014-05-14 20:47:00 UTC
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Now there is a possibility. Several instances of "thrown room" and it's actually an AU. It's going to take some time to tease out. I think I saw some fourth wall breaking? And lengthy dialogue jokes are fun.
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Try this one by
on 2014-05-14 15:45:00 UTC
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I've just read it, and it doesn't seem... too bad. I have read worse.
Speaking of which, check out this trollfic.
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OMG by
on 2014-05-13 17:48:00 UTC
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I went poking around and found out that there is a spinoff that involves an Animaniacs crossover... I need to create someone who got bored with madness, or some sort of tech to dull the effects of fics like this on the semi-sane psyche.
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Why do you say it's a troll? by
on 2014-05-13 14:26:00 UTC
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I'm not saying it isn't - nor am I agreeing that it is - just asking.
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Because if it wasn't purposeful by
on 2014-05-13 15:22:00 UTC
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If this person was truly trying to write a proper story... If they were actually doing the best that they could...
I don't want to think about it.
Is it elitist to say that if your literacy level is below what it takes to understand "Norby the Mixed-Up Robot," then you shouldn't try to write complicated stories? -
A little bit. by
on 2014-05-13 16:12:00 UTC
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The thing to remember is that in the real world, badfic authors mostly aren't out to wreak havoc on the Word Worlds. They're mostly just people - actually, mostly just kids - who have an idea and want to write it down. Sometimes their skills fall a bit short of their vision - or, as it may be, several miles short.
But ultimately, the only way to improve at writing is to try. 'A man's reach should exceed his grasp/Or what's a heaven for?' If you stick to writing See Spot Run, you'll never be able to write beyond that level.
So write as ambitiously as you can dream. Sometimes - often - you'll fall flat on your face. But even if no-one offers you any concrit whatsoever - even if, in fact, no-one else ever sees it - if you're trying to improve, simply writing more and more will help you get there.
But concrit helps a lot more than just doing it. So if you want to improve as a writer, you want people to see your work... even when it's bad. And yeah, there are better ways to do that than to post on FF.net. But a lot of people don't know that.
Like I say, I don't know if this is a troll or not - I can't make head or tail of the first chapter, even once I get past the punctuation. But 'it's bad so it must be a troll' is a dangerous thought regardless of circumstances. It's why we're still not entirely certain about 'legolas by laura'...
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How old would 'kid' qualify as? by
on 2014-05-14 04:29:00 UTC
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Some kids are actually really good writers- I actually know one...
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'Not adult'. by
on 2014-05-14 08:56:00 UTC
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Yes, some young people are very good writers - we've had some on this very Board. So are some adults. But the majority of both aren't very good. The difference is that adults don't usually pick up writing - the majority of people who start writing are young. Particularly, I should say, writing fanfiction.
And yes, those are all 'majority' and 'most' figures. There's no universal rule - thank heavens.
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True *grins* (nm) by
on 2014-05-15 04:51:00 UTC
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I guess. by
on 2014-05-13 17:14:00 UTC
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But that doesn't mean I should attempt a flashy parkour routine when I can't run more than a few steps.
I am known there for being mean. Here is the review I posted.
"This needs formatting. And a few other things that will make it into a properly-written story instead of the transcript of explaining an idea. Read a real published book and pay attention to how it was written."
I suppose I could spork it, but I'm not sure which of my agents has the mental fortitude to comment on what is happening and which would be screaming for it to end. Is there an Nth dimensional being or eldritch abomination I could borrow?
I did tease out some lovely imagery like "something in him told him to rome the night so he did" and "you are the last of a dyeing group." -
I saw that review... by
on 2014-05-13 17:21:00 UTC
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I thought you might have put in- 'Not Twilight, though.' XD Might not help all that much.
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Re: I saw that review... by
on 2014-05-13 17:34:00 UTC
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It could be Twilight for all I know. It certainly has enough anti-canon to Nosgoth for my expert to bash at, even if she's too confused to remember that werewolves are canonical instead of just not uncanonical.
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Canonical vs. Not uncanonical? (nm) by
on 2014-05-14 04:26:00 UTC
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Re: Canonical vs. Not uncanonical? by
on 2014-05-14 12:11:00 UTC
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Canonical is something that is part of the world, not uncanonical means that there is room for it to exist without effecting the canon.
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Thanks :D (nm) by
on 2014-05-15 16:44:00 UTC
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