I really don't think...

Subject: I really don't think...
Author: Huinesoron
Posted on: 2014-01-31 08:12:00 UTC

... you can argue very hard for 'wrong name'. The wiki page on 'The Player' opens with 'Steve is the character that users control in Minecraft'. The default texture is saved as 'Steve.png'.

This mob discusses the question-mark, but doesn't specify which version of the mob it's talking about.

Essentially, making 'Steve' a mini would require charging in every single story that features the player character. No-one's going to stick a question-mark in a name in narrative; it would be ridiculous.

"I was talking to Steve?," I explained. "Steve? said there was a-"

There was a noise behind me, and with reflexes trained by dozens of creepers, I span round. "Steve?? Steve?!"

hS

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Sue Alert by KittyEden on 2014-01-29 11:56:00 UTC Reply

Hi,
Kitty here with another Suefi...il now I didn't even think it was possible to have MineCraft Mary-Sues, but apparently you can.
This one's about an innocent girl who's thrown into the Nether, and makes friend with ALL the mobs. Especially the hostile ones. AND Herobrine's in love with her.
www.fanfiction.net/s/9686514/
How would you spork this? I don't think it's been done before. Would the Agents become blocky, like MineCraft mobs, or... what? What would they kill her with?

On a different note, I can't access the Wiki anymore. My computer won't let me in. I'm trying to get it fixed, but it might be a while. So, could someone else add it to the list?

Until the next crisis,
~Kitty

Elenium/Tamuli badfic by Antigone68104 on 2014-02-01 21:01:00 UTC Reply

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9453408/1/An-Unusual-Prayer-Answered

Three World One girls (supposedly early 20s, but they act like teenage girls) get pulled into the world of the Elenium/Tamuli because Aphrael felt like answering "to whom it may concern" prayers from another world.

Whoever takes this one gets to pick a mini type for this series, "Serphina" shows up at the beginning of chapter 2.

Oh. by Ailavyn Siniyash on 2014-02-02 01:08:00 UTC Reply

I haven't read the Elenium/the Tamuli yet, though I predict that I will at some point, seeing as I spent the last week obsessively reading the Belgariad(five books in four days; I'm rather proud of myself) and I rather liked it.

Speaking of, actually, I'm going to go look for Belgariad fic, and I suppose I'll report back if I find anything particularly nauseating. Wish me luck!

...wut. by RinaAndRanda (Rina) on 2014-02-01 20:41:00 UTC Reply

Let me guess: she also spawns/finds the Wither and it is redeemed through the power of her love and kindness, and then she meets the Ender Dragon and it becomes her loyal steed. And she also redeems Herobrine with her two wuv (TM)

I'd suppose the Agents would become blocky, maybe PC versions with skin equivalents of what they looked like. If the Nether is the only setting, Blazes or Wither Skeletons might be fun to do, too.

Dear lord that's bad by RinaAndRanda (Rina) on 2014-02-01 21:06:00 UTC Reply

I got to chapter three and had to give up. Where's Randa when I need her?

In similar vein... by wobblestheclown on 2014-01-30 00:53:00 UTC Reply

Um, we got a bad one here. Ish. Kinda.

Blood Line, by BeautyandtheNerd, contains an OC who's just cringeworthy, but most of the time the SPaG's okay and there might be a decent plot buried in it somewhere. Iunno.

This has been your missive from the Tiny Fandoms Association, Skulduggery Pleasant Chapter. =]

--parp
I've never sporked a video game fic before... by Sevenswans on 2014-01-29 23:18:00 UTC Reply

I would assume that agents would become blocky upon entering the fic world, to fit in. And the easiest way to kill her sounds like it would be to go with something from the game's continuity: you could attack her with any of the many weapons or offensive potions in the game, set up a clever trap (preferably involving lava: it is, after all, the nether), push her off a cliff, or snap canon back and have the hostile mobs kill her.

You can look at the minecraft wiki for inspiration. :D

Starvation too. by Antimapler on 2014-02-05 06:46:00 UTC Reply

And TNT traps... even though those may be a Very Bad Idea.

Want to claim this one so badly by Mikelus on 2014-01-29 19:48:00 UTC Reply

But I can't. I don't have an agent yet, so no point in staking a claim on a badfi...il I do.

Best of luck dealing with this Sue. The unlucky agents are really going to need it.

You can claim a fic before you get permission (nm) by Storme Hawk on 2014-01-30 00:11:00 UTC Reply

Claimed, but can't edit. by Mikelus on 2014-01-30 01:06:00 UTC Reply

The Unclaimed page appears to be locked down. Could someone remove it from there since I've claimed it?

On it (nm) by Storme Hawk on 2014-01-30 05:24:00 UTC Reply

Thanks by Mikelus on 2014-01-30 05:32:00 UTC Reply

Don't know why it wouldn't work for me though.

Hmmm, Interesting by Storme Hawk on 2014-01-29 17:21:00 UTC Reply

First of all what's a Minecraft mini going to be called? Because there's at least one in this (It's Steve? not Steve)
Secondly, Well you could always take them out with a Sword/Axe/Bow/Fishing Rod (I'm being serious here).
Thirdly, quite tempted to claim this, however I've got my hands full mission-wise at the moment

Storme Hawk

Minecraft Mechanics by RinaAndRanda (Rina) on 2014-02-01 20:43:00 UTC Reply

Fishing rods can knock her into a lava pool or something, but they don't actually deal damage. (Unless they're enchanted with Sharpness or Fire Aspect or whatever, but that's a different story.)

Can't they drag? by Huinesoron on 2014-02-02 08:04:00 UTC Reply

It may have been debugged out, but I'm pretty sure at one point you could pull mobs to you with a fishing rod.

Which would seem to hit an irresistible force/immovable object scenario when you combine it with the leash... hmm...

hS

Not 100% sure now... by RinaAndRanda (Rina) on 2014-02-02 19:41:00 UTC Reply

Yeah, you could pull mobs to you with fishing rods, but I don't know if they still do that. I would guess not, since leads were added in, but I'd have to check that...

Alternatively... by SeaTurtle on 2014-02-02 20:46:00 UTC Reply

Looking for a surefire way to eradicate a Sue from the Minecraftverse? I've got an idea...

/op [PPCMcAgent]
McAgent is now a server Operator/Mod

/tp [SpeshulSnowflake] [PPCMcAgent]
Teleport SpeshulSnowflake to McAgent

/ban [SpeshulSnowflake] The banhammer of cannon is coming down on you!
Banned from Minecraft. Message optional.

So the Sue would be eliminated through an Agent god-modding? by Outhra on 2014-02-02 21:34:00 UTC Reply

I don't really think that's going to work. It doesn't really fit the PPC's methodology to defeat a Sue by giving one of its Agents an out-of-nowhere blast of new abilities to drastically overpower her. Besides, how would the Agent even be able to promote themselves to a Moderator? It's not as though they created the fic, which in this situation I suppose would be comparable to overseeing the server, and I severely doubt there are a plethora of Minecraft servers in which any player can promote themselves at any time, because if there were, nobody would ever be without Moderator powers.

It's a pretty funny idea, though. ;) by Huinesoron on 2014-02-03 12:31:00 UTC Reply

Depending on how mods are defined in the game/server/whatever code... let's see:

A PPC Agent can see the Words that make up the story. If that story is set in a computer game, can the agent shift their focus and look at the code, or at least the save-type files? If so, is there a way for them to edit it - possibly by finding a line in the fic which could possibly be interpreted to mean it, and focussing hard enough that they tweak the tortured canon into allowing it?

hS

There's a precedent of sorts. by Neshomeh on 2014-02-03 21:11:00 UTC Reply

While Nume and Ilraen were on a World of Warcraft mission, Nume was quickly able to take advantage of his character class (Mage) by using the game interface. Ilraen couldn't see it so easily, but under pressure, he was able to do it, too.

Theoretically, taking this a step further would allow an agent to see and manipulate the computer code... but if Nume and Ilraen's example is anything to go by, it would take an extraordinary amount of focus, not to mention understanding programming code in the first place.

~Neshomeh

Fair point, but... by SeaTurtle on 2014-02-02 22:51:00 UTC Reply

..are PPC Agents not moderators of canon by definition? Nah, that sounds too extreme. Hm. "Overseers"? "Constant Gardeners" maybe?

Meh. It was just a throwaway idea anyways.

Question. by Huinesoron on 2014-01-30 16:23:00 UTC Reply

What did you mean when you said '(It's Steve? not Steve)'? Is there an instance somewhere in the story where the name appears as 'Steve?' - because I'd read that more as a bizarre punctuation error leading to visual or spoken mayhem, not a mini. Or are you saying the player character is properly named 'Steve?' - which would seem to contract both the Wiki and everything I've ever heard. Or, were you trying to type something wrong and actually wrote it correctly, in which case 'Steve' would be the latest mini-Word, if mini-Words existed, which they don't.

hS

Answer by Storme Hawk on 2014-01-30 20:05:00 UTC Reply

Huh, it's been changed then.

Just been checking the wiki and it appears I was confusing the Player and Steve(?) (who was a Mob). Although I could have sworn that at one point the wiki also called the Player Steve?.

My apologies

Steve by Mikelus on 2014-01-30 20:23:00 UTC Reply

It used to have the question mark. The wiki was changed since the last time I looked.

Doesn't look like it. by Outhra on 2014-01-30 21:42:00 UTC Reply

I checked the wiki's results from back to last year, and in the few times it addresses the player as "Steve", it doesn't use the question mark. From my admittedly brief research, it looks as though Notch was once asked if the player character of Minecraft had a name, he replied "Steve?", and someone with a surprisingly literal sense of humor began telling people that the question mark was a part of the player character's name. Notch acknowledged the joke at some point, but no one has ever actually given the player character any official name, with or without included punctuation, to the point that another game including him as a pop-culture reference just calls him "Mr. Minecraft".

Charging by Mikelus on 2014-01-30 22:52:00 UTC Reply

It seems like the best option would be to treat each use of Steve in badfic as either a bit character, or a canon without charges for using the wrong name.
However, misspellings of the name will still cause mini's to appear, as long as the name was used previously.

I really don't think... by Huinesoron on 2014-01-31 08:12:00 UTC Reply

... you can argue very hard for 'wrong name'. The wiki page on 'The Player' opens with 'Steve is the character that users control in Minecraft'. The default texture is saved as 'Steve.png'.

This mob discusses the question-mark, but doesn't specify which version of the mob it's talking about.

Essentially, making 'Steve' a mini would require charging in every single story that features the player character. No-one's going to stick a question-mark in a name in narrative; it would be ridiculous.

"I was talking to Steve?," I explained. "Steve? said there was a-"

There was a noise behind me, and with reflexes trained by dozens of creepers, I span round. "Steve?? Steve?!"

hS

Mini by Vault Dweller on 2014-01-30 15:47:00 UTC Reply

I vote for creeper minis and that since 2011, all explosives used by the PPC have been harvested from these minis before adoption
Steve mini by Mikelus on 2014-01-30 01:51:00 UTC Reply

I'm not sure Steve would qualify as a mini at this point, given how often it's mentioned. Would he be more of a bit then?
Minecraft mini by Mikelus on 2014-01-29 19:41:00 UTC Reply

I'd recommend either a mini-Creeper or a mini-Enderman. Mini-Creeper would be more iconic, but would have to be able to survive exploding.
Mini-Enderman would have much more comedic potential though, I think.

People were talking about this last month. by Outhra on 2014-01-30 15:52:00 UTC Reply

They seemed to come to a consensus on mini-Creepers at that point, with the caveat that it would be a modified version similar to these, so that just puffs up and emits steam rather than exploding. It makes sense, since Creepers are the most iconic creature in the game, minis usually have dramatically reduced versions of their namesake's power, and no Agent would want to bring a mini home only to find their adorable pet replaced by a smoking crater after they go on missions or inter-story shenanigans for a few hours. Still, though, the final mini choice should probably go with whichever mob would be funniest. I just thought it was a little strange that there have been two discussions a little longer than a month apart on this same topic, and yet nobody else has brought that up yet.
I vote for Endermen by Sevenswans on 2014-01-29 23:21:00 UTC Reply

I think we could get more milage out of a mini-Enderman... because their owners would have to not look at them. Also, they'd be like two feet high and attack your knees if you wandered into the RC and looked at them, unless you were wearing a pumpkin. :D
That's a very nice RC you have there... by Storme Hawk on 2014-01-29 19:44:00 UTC Reply

...Shame if anything happens to it.

Of course that could equally apply to a mini-creeper blowing up or a mini-enderman stealing all your things

My thoughts exactly by Mikelus on 2014-01-29 19:49:00 UTC Reply

As long as it's not a Mini-Wither, then.

One for the watch list by Antigone68104 on 2014-01-29 15:12:00 UTC Reply

Only one chapter in this Parasol Protectorate fic so far, and it's not badly written ... if you ignore the massive canon disruptions going on.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9964044/1/Reckless

(For those who haven't read that series: werewolfism isn't inherited via bloodline, werewolves can't breed after their transformation under anything resembling normal circumstances {Alexia and Lord Maccom had a kid, but only because Alexia is preternatural}, and had Major Channing ever gone to America he would have been butchered by the very anti-supernatural government. There's more, but you get the idea.)

*Rubs Hands together* by Sevenswans on 2014-01-29 23:19:00 UTC Reply

It's such a small fandom, it needs all the help it can get...

Do you want this one? by Antigone68104 on 2014-01-30 18:45:00 UTC Reply

Assuming it goes anywhere, of course.

I don't want to claim anything else until I get my current mission finished.

Done. =oD (nm) by wobblestheclown on 2014-01-29 12:07:00 UTC Reply