Looks like we're all in favor of deleting the VeggieTales/Olivia Fries page. It is done!

As for the rest, it's a little fuzzy, but here's what I've got:

2. Candidates for deletion

Continuum pages

- Delete all continuum pages: 7
- Delete all except Trigun: 3

I'll go ahead and remove all but Trigun for now.

Cold's page

- Delete Cold: 6
- Keep Cold: 2

Most seem to be in favor of deleting it, but a few voiced their concern about losing something that might not be recoverable. My suggestion, then, is to move him to the Out of Continuity category. That way the information isn't lost, but he won't be sitting around being confusing in the main categories anymore.

Suichi Sanders' page

- Merge Suichi: 5
- Delete Suichi: 3
- Keep Suichi: 1

The majority seem to be in favor of not deleting the page. Anybody want to be in charge of merging the content with Anamia Sanders' page? I don't think I'll have time this week or next.

Unused images

Seems like we're in favor of deleting anything non-unique, that's been replaced by something else, but we might want to find a place for the likes of Zaneth. (Also, thanks to PoorCynic for actually marking his own old images for deletion as requested!)

3. VisualEditor

- Try it out: 5
- Leave it alone: 1

Lots of us are ambivalent about this—even most of the yeses took the tone of "eh, I guess." So, uh... I guess I'll turn it on? Anyone want to say anything else first?

4. Message Wall

- Turn on Message Wall: 5
- Leave it alone: 1

Same deal as above. This I'm even more hesitant to go ahead with, since they do outright replace the current User Talk pages. The content wouldn't be lost, just archived, but... ehhhh. Any further comments on this?

~Neshomeh

1) I vote to delete the page.


2) Go ahead with your suggestions. I doubt those pages had much traffic anyways.


3)


Just do whatever. I don't really mind.


4) Sounds like a good idea!


5) Nothing to add, ma'am!

1) Regarding our VeggieTales page.
I dunno, about the user, honestly. I would've said,"Wait for her response!", but it seems that this user never, ever, seem to respond. So, I'll say go ahead and delete the VeggieTales page.

2) Regarding the Candidates for Deletion.
Yes, I'll agree with deleting all the continuum pages, since no agent I've heard of is involved with A Series of Unfortunate Events.

As for Cold's page, I'm not so sure...

For Suichi Sanders, I agree we should merge the content with Anamia Sanders.

3) Regarding the VisualEditor.
I almost always use mobile devices when I edit the wiki, and I'm perfectly fine with the source mode. Plus, I'm more familiar with it. But we could try using the VisualEditor for a while, to see whether it's better, or too buggy.

4) Regarding replacing our User Talk pages with message walls.
Yes, I do want to replace it with message walls. It seems more convenient that way.

5) Regarding more wiki questions.
Nope. Can't think of any, now, at least.

~Autumn

1. I agree with everyone who says to delete the page. If someone finds a badfic in that fandom, the page can be remade.
   
   2. I'd suggest deleting everything except the Trigun page. With all the anime fans we have here, it's impossible that no one is willing to spork a badfic in that continuum! There certainly has to be badfic of it, for the reasons listed on that page. (Is anyone willing to pick up the slack?)
   
   As for the Sanders sisters, I'd suggest deleting both pages unless the stories involving them can be found or unless their creator is currently working on a story for them.
   
   3. I'd be OK to the change.
   
   4. I'd be OK to the change.
   
   5. Since you've established earlier that anyone can add missing spin-offs to the (In)Complete List of PPC Fiction, maybe a line to that effect could be added to that page?
   
   P.S. I've read the new DMS article, and I have to say that it is very good. I like what you've done with it.

1) I've never even heard of VeggieTales before, and the general consensus so far seems to be 'delete', so I'd say go with that.

2) Of the other candidates for deletion, I don't know much about most of them either, so don't really have an opinion. Deleting stuff that isn't relevant to the PPC sounds sensibel to me. Your criteria for judging whether or not a page is relevant seems good to me. 'Is this topic important to the PPC' could be a little tricky to quantify sometimes, but the others are nice and straightforward. And I can’t think of any other criteria to add that would be useful.

With specific regards to Trigun, I actually do have a mission in the works for that, although I've got no idea when it'll actually be published. If you think that makes it worth keeping the page, then keep it - and I'll do my best to justify that in a timely fashion. If not, then I'll just link to an offsite wiki when I have the mission done. I'll probably be doing a fair few missions in continua without their own pages (there's a reason my current agent pair are DMS/Freelance), and I wouldn't bother making a page for any of the other one-off visits I do. Don't really see the point in duplicating info if the only link between them and the PPC is 'one team went there once'.

As for Agent Cold, given that the entire page is about a dozen words, I don't really see the need for it. I would think that line could just be transferred to the 'C' section of the Glossary of PPC Characters. If more information turns up about him at a later date, then he could get his own page back.

3) Just want some clarification on this point: is the VisualEditor thing going to replace either of the existing options, or will it run alongside them?

4) Um... I don't think I've ever written on anyone's Talk Page, or had anyone write on mine, so I'm struggling to come up with an opinion on this one.

5) Nope

6) The updated Department pages look good, and I think the unified structure/layout is a big improvement. Nice work.

1. I say delete. I agree with your criteria for when a continuum should have a page and this does not live up to them.
   
   2. Delete on the continua pages.
   With Agent Cold, I'm not sure. Doctorlit mentioned that he might be from an old mission that has been wiped off the face of the web, in which case it would indeed be a shame to delete this last trace of him.
   As for Suichi Sanders, I'm a bit confused as to whether or not there was ever a mission written about her. If there is, I would like to read it and cast a vote as to whether or not she should be kept as a notable Sue. (The way we did with the other Sue-pages.) If the mission was never written, I say delete. Excepting very special cases, I believe that the wiki should be reserved for characters and histories that people have actually put work into and finished, not just thought about in a 'wouldn't it be funny to do a story about X'-way.
   
   3. If we are getting it sooner or later anyway, I say that we wait and give them a chance to fix bugs before we start using it. But I prefer source mode as well, so I do not hold a strong opinion.
   
   4. I don't really have an opinion about this either. Sorry. However, isn't it possible now to follow a talk-page the way you can a ordinary page and get notified of changes? They wouldn't be notification of replies specifically to you, but it would be better than nothing. I thought it was possible, but I can't really find anything about it, so I could be wrong.
   
   5. Yes, um, I have an idea about maybe starting to have goodfic recommendations on the different continua pages. Should I elaborate here or should I start a new thread, do you think?
   
   As for your PS, they look very nice indeed. :D

1) Another vote for deletion. If we ever get a VeggieTales mission, the article can be recreated then.

2) I'd roll Suichi into Anamia's page, and delete the rest.

3) Not using a mobile device, I'll leave this up to those who do.

1. Before the Veggietales talk page (which also got wiped) got wiped, I had already been advocating there for the page's deletion. It was even less informative than most of the continuum pages that have nothing to do with the PPC. The largest section of the Veggietales page was just the lyrics of the theme song. So I say leave it dead. (At least the rule-ignoring upstart accomplished something productive!)
   
   2. The continuum pages may as well go. (I need to get around to buying the Unfortunate Event Series. I've wanted to read that for years.)
   
   I would rather keep the Suichi Sanders page. It's a little tricky, since the entire spinoff of the agent she was related to appears be unwritten (at least for now). But she is still an original character by a PPCer, and serves as a villain for that spinoff, just like hS' Black Cats characters, and many of them have pages of their own.
   
   With agent Cold, are we sure they aren't from an older spinoff that's just gotten Geocities'd? That info had to come from somewhere, and I would hate to have a piece of PPC history get completely wiped off the internet, if this page is the only record of Cold.
   
   As for the photos, I guess the ones that already have a replacement on their appropriate agent page can be deleted, since they're redundant now.
   
   Oh, we have a picture of Zaneth. That's the illithid that kept showing up during the OS era. They ought to be on the Glossary at least, yeah? Or even a page. I could swear they were in more places than just the one written by Architeuthis that's mentioned on Bulldog's page.
   
   3. The text editor is SO BAD AND USELESS we might as well try out this visual editor. It can't be much worse, right?
   
   4. In contrast, I think the talk pages work just fine as they are. Let's stick with the system that actually works!
   
   5. Minis! This topic kind of slid off my general consciousness (moving out of one's parents' house is harder work than it might seem) but I started looking at our mini page again. I'm noticing that some of our minis ("The Demented Cartoon Movie's" mini-Hi-Blahs, here: http://tawaki-ppc.livejournal.com/2096.html ) are mentioned in published PPC somethings without actually being from a mission to that continuum, while others (Garfield's mini-Mondays, here: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?id=199610;article=172463;search_term=mini-Monday ) are from Board posts.
   
   How do we want to treat these cases? Do we maybe want to leave a note on these entries, or some other marker, that they weren't technically created the official way, and can still be over-written if a mission is published that creates minis in that continuum?
   
   (Although thinking about it realistically, the mini-Hi-Blahs in particular can probably just be left canon. There's never going to be fan fiction for that flash movie.)
   
   And the new Department and Division pages are GREAT! They're so much more informative now, and they're actually fun to read, as well!

1) Delete the page. I don't think I've seen anything related to VeggieTales around here. Maybe it was written in anticipation for a VeggieTales related mission that got scrapped? I dunno. Either way, it doesn't have much of a point, even with the hijacking of the page to create an agent.

2) I say go ahead with deleting the continuum pages and the two character pages you mentioned there.

3) Eh... I'm used to the old format. But at the same time, I often find myself dipping into source mode to get some HTML-related stuff right, so maybe this version streamlines that better? I don't know, maybe it's worth experimentation.

5) What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?

You're a Tyrant :p

1) I'd say Delete
2) What you've suggested seems perfectly reasonable to me
3) The programmer inside me wouldn't mind, just to have a look at it. But otherwise it wouldn't effect me.
4) I haven't used the User Talk pages but from the looks of them I think I'd prefer Message Walls
5) No
6) (The P.S) Looks good

Storme Hawk