'Full member' =/= 'Permission'.

Subject: 'Full member' =/= 'Permission'.
Author: Huinesoron
Posted on: 2013-03-02 08:30:00 UTC

Several of our oldest members - such as BeautyID, who wrote the poem at the top of the Constitution - never had Permission. If anyone's been giving you the idea that you need Permission to be considered a full member, they're wildly wrong.

I think it'd be fantastic to have a 'What the PPC is like for people just joining'-type piece from you, and also... well, anything else. Is there anything on the list which you've read or had experience with now, even though it was made a long time ago?

hS

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Filming a PPC Community Documentary - please help! by Huinesoron on 2013-02-27 19:19:00 UTC Reply

Summary

Since the tenth anniversary of this Board's launch is coming up, we are putting together a documentary about the history and nature of the PPC as a community. If you want to see this finished, please keep reading - there are lots of ways you can help out!

The basic idea is to collect information from you, the people of the PPC, and collate it all into a chronological narrative. This will not feature any personal details about anyone - usernames only, and location mentioned only if you agree it's relevant - but will be a collection of people's thoughts, feelings and memories about this community.

Ways You Can Help 1: The Timeline

At the end of this post is a timeline of the PPC community - but it's incomplete! If you can think of anything else that ought to be on it, please, reply and tell me (or, indeed, anything that I've got wrong, or that needs more information)! Obviously not everything goes on there, but as general guidance:

-If it affected the community as a whole in a new way,
-If a lot of people remember it (fondly or otherwise),
-If it's related to the community, not the fictional(?) world, or
-If it's really cool,

... then it should be on the list. For example, I've included The Reorganisation, despite it being fiction, because it changed the way we see the history of the PPC, and is still reasonably popular. I haven't included me starting to write missions for DOGA, even though it was a new Department, because that's not a unique event. If we knew who the first spinoff was, that would go on the list, because again, it's a significant change.

And especially if you know anything

Ways You Can Help 2: Your Thoughts

My basic plan is to structure this as a series of interviews - but for that to work, I need interviewees! Therefore, you can provide:

-An interview or pseudo-interview with you about something on the timeline (you can even write your own questions, and I'll have Agent Dafydd 'ask' you them - or, if you prefer, someone can come up with questions for you)
-A short piece of you talking about something on the timeline, in a format other than an interview. So if you have two minutes' worth of memories of the IRC, you can just talk about them!

*Note: You do not have to have been present for the event at the date it is listed on the timeline. If you've ever played Fill The Plothole (or seen it played), or ever used or contributed to the Wiki, you are perfectly eligable to talk about those subjects. If you want to discuss how the creation of the PPC City affected the way we see ourselves, or how the Gatherings separate us from other forums, this is also cool.

Obviously, we're aware that not everyone has access to a camera or microphone, and that not everyone wants to put their face or voice on the internet. Therefore, we'll take three levels of contribution - with the most preferred listed first, but all will be accepted.

1. A video of you saying your piece (preferably against either a PPC-appropriate or a neutral backdrop).
2. An audio file of you saying your piece, with an optional note on what you'd like on-screen for it.
3. A written document of your piece, for someone else to read out.

Ways You Can Help 3: Behind The Scenes

As you might have guessed, this will need a fair amount of backstage work. I'll be doing all the editing and compiling and such, but there are literally heaps of ways you can contribute:

-Acting as an interviewer of people who provide interviews - that is, writing the questions for them to answer.
-Acting as a voice for other people's written contributions. Again, you can provide either video or audio, but we'll probably just use the audio track from any videos.
-Reading some piece of source material that you think needs reading out (as above, video or audio). As I recall, Cassie already volunteered to read a section of Rambling Band, but if you come up with something else relevant - a chatlog, or Board post? - feel free to volunteer it.
-Providing images for either visual aids, or people who want a drawing of themselves/their agents in place of their actual faces.
-... anything else! This is pretty much wide open. There will be music played, clips from videos used (maybe) - so if you think of something that would perfectly fit a certain timeline event, suggest it! Believe me, I'm all ears (except literally).

Important Note

You are allowed to contribute in as many ways as you feel like it. If you want to double the length of the timeline, talk about half the items on it, interview everyone else and paint pictures to show everything - go ahead! That's awesome!

Oh, and whatever you want to do (and whatever questions you have), please mention them in this thread. It helps us keep track of everything. We'll sort out communications and file transfer once the planning is done.

The Timeline

2001

FotR released

2002

Creation of the PPC - Rambling Band
?May: PPC exiled from Fanfiction.net & rehoused on Miss Cam's site - Mary Sue, Sue Mary and the Broken Plot Continuum`
August: Launch of OFUM

2003

March: Relaunch of the Oddlots homepage (& the Board?)
? Fill The Plothole
The original chat/PPC Lounge

2004 - The year many PPC traditions began

February: PPC - The Board Game (first PPC game)
Knights Who Go ^^
Oxford Gathering - The first PPC Gathering
July: First <a href="http://fanficland.webs.com/FfW/index.htm">badfic contest (with fanficland launching in 2006)
? The Board Shipfest
The Battle of Goldberg
'The Lord of the Things' RPG (in the old chatroom)

2005

The Reorganisation
The original Snowfight
TungstenMonk dissects a troll

2006

<a href="http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/TheMultiverseMonitor">Multiverse Monitor launched
August: <a href="http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/ThingsIamnotAllowedtoDoatthePPC">Things I Am Not Allowed To Do At The PPC (date on the LJ post)
December: PPC Holiday Filk Game

2007

February: PPC Card Game
December: The Wiki

2008 - the year of emergencies

January: PPC's New Caledonia 'myMiniCity' opened
March: The Anniversary Party, Macrovirus Epidemic and Mary-Sue Invasion - the death of Makes-Things and the ban on emergencies
May: Generic Surface launched
The Ypur Invasion & the Other Board
October: PPC wedding - hS & Kaitlyn

2009

Geocities shuts down; PPC: The Lost Tales launched.

2010

(sometime earlier than) August: The PPC appears on TV Tropes

2011

2012

2013

UNDATED - anyone know a date we can hang on these?

The IRC

red wolf the weird

Very late here... by hermione of vulcan on 2013-03-06 17:08:00 UTC Reply

I don't know if this would be helpful or not, but I know a lot about OFUs, being in the middle of writing one and having read many besides. It's the only part of the PPC-verse I'm sure I know about, so yeah...I'm volunteering. However, I have no recording equipment, so I could make a statement about OFUs that someone else (another OFU author, maybe) could read. That is, if that's considered part of PPC history and is relevant to the documentary

Not late! by Huinesoron on 2013-03-07 08:28:00 UTC Reply

And that would be brilliant. At the moment I might have two other people talking about OFUM itself, but a piece on OFUs, writing them and reading them and the impact they have, would be fantastic.

hS

Sorry to be so late again. by hermione of vulcan on 2013-03-11 18:08:00 UTC Reply

Impact? Not sure what you mean by that. I could definitely talk about the challenges of writing one and how it compares to a PPC mission, the morals (as in, they're a way to show how badfic writers can improve, rather than a way to vicariously torture Suethors), and the parodic tone and how you have to play it right (for example, you could argue that Sauron is OOC in OFUM, but Miss Cam makes it work).
I'll get writing.

Sounds like fun! by Gen on 2013-03-05 04:16:00 UTC Reply

I can barely use my computer as it is, so I won't be much help with any fancy tech stuff, but I can write and answer interview questions.

Did you have a date in mind for when we should start compiling things? I've also not been on the IRC for a while, so I don't know if anything else has been discussed there. Unfortunately, I can't really contribute anything else to the timeline.

Nah, I don't go near the IRC. by Huinesoron on 2013-03-05 10:24:00 UTC Reply

My current 'plan' (a bit of a strong word, that) is to post again with a filled-out timeline, check if everyone's okay with what they're slotted in for, and sort out deadlines and emails then. At the moment there's some gaping gaps in the timeline, so I'm still hoping for someone to turn up wanting to talk about them. Things I Am Not Allowed To Do is still open, as is the Holiday Filks, the Lost Tales... possibly even the Wiki.

hS

Just a few questions. by World-Jumper on 2013-03-04 20:37:00 UTC Reply

What file format would you like the audio or video to be in? Also, approximately, how 'loud' do you want the audio to be? I know you can quiet down most audio, but it is hard to enhance sound well, and toning down too much can affect quality. Just a range around what you want would be nice.

As for the questions, do you want a specific list of the questions I am being 'asked,' or would it be OK for me to just sort of ramble on with questions or topics as discussion starters? I am fine with drafting up some questions if you want, I just tend to ramble well, and you can usually get good sound bytes from my wild discussions with myself and the camera. I guess what I am asking is, how organized do you want me to be?

Also, I would be happy to voice act some role-plays, important posts, or just funny moments on the board. Heck, I'll even sing a few filks if you want! (you may not like what you hear though... I'll try and sing well, I swear!)
One post I was thinking of doing was this one: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?id=199610;article=235598
Why? No reason other than it's funny, and it deals with our lovely friends the spambots. To have it as a form of intro to the spambots, or more specifically the song inside the post being the intro, would be funny. Well, at least, that's my opinion. In the end, that's your decision.

If I come up with any other questions, I will make sure to ask them.

Normal listening volume? by Huinesoron on 2013-03-05 10:21:00 UTC Reply

Formatwise I can probably deal with most things (although if you can help it, don't send me .avi or .wav - I'm not made of hard drive space!).

Whether you want questions or not is entirely up to you; do I take it from this and your previous comment that you'd like to talk about a) the whole 'greet newbies with heaps of stuff' culture and b) spambots? Because I think we can slot both of those in.

I agree that the spam song is worth getting in - I'll find a track of it, I think - but if you want to read the post you linked - say, down to the first mention of the Vikings, skipping the line from the song, as a sort of introduction - that would be cool.

I've also tentatively pegged you for reading the SO's all-consoles message at the start of the Fifth Anniversary Roleplay (I think it's the first think in the linked writeup), as an introduction to that in particular and the topic of RPs in general. Up for it?

hS

I don't know. by Sunflower Official on 2013-03-06 04:15:00 UTC Reply

Do you think this inexperenced newbie, who at this point does not even have permission yet, could play me?

((World-Jumper: HECK YEAH I'M-! I mean... Yes. Yes I am up for it. Thank you so much for the honor of playing our grand official. I'll even break out my Blue Snowball for the role!

As for the questions, well, you'll see when you get them. I think I'm going to sorta ramble, then I'll sort out the connected bits for you, so it's easyer to edit. But I was around for two spambot attacks, so I thought that would be appropriate for me to talk abot. But on the whole, I'll talk about what I know about. We'll see what hapens.))

Sir? Your italics appear to be missing... (nm) by The Sub Rosa on 2013-03-06 12:37:00 UTC Reply

...If you would all please look into the light... by The Sunflower Official on 2013-03-06 20:21:00 UTC Reply

*FLASH*
You did not just see me talking without the italics. You did not see the Sub Rosa correcting me. You are all to report back to your RC's and continue with your day.

((The open italics is on purpose. Now everything anybody says when on this post is in italics, so it seems like he always had italics when speaking! Ain't I clever.))

((Dude, wha...how did you do that?)) (nm) by DawnFire on 2013-03-07 08:59:00 UTC Reply

whatever you want in italics by World-Jumper on 2013-03-07 21:34:00 UTC Reply

Delete the spaces inside the 's, and if you want to do the little trick I did as the Sunflower Official (though I would not recommend that you do it, it tends to make people a little annoyed) just leave out the or just the /. Simple.

Ooh, so that's how you do open italics. by DawnFire on 2013-03-07 21:45:00 UTC Reply

Watch me do that sometime by accident and then not preview the post...

The Board by BeautyID on 2013-03-04 02:27:00 UTC Reply

I can't help much, as I don't really remember big turning points in the history of the PPC or anything like that. But I do remember when I joined the board, and that was the late summer of 2002. It was, I'm 99% certain, this exact board. I can't remember exactly how I found it, but if OFUM launched in August of '02 is was possibly through that, or through reviews I read on other people's fics on ff.net. I lurked for maybe a couple months before I started posting, but that was definitely no later than autumn of '02. I don't remember anything about this relaunch of '03. I think old age is catching up with me.

The relaunch... by Huinesoron on 2013-03-04 09:13:00 UTC Reply

... comes from the message at the top of the (now deceased) Oddlots Homepage, which reads:

You are approximately visitor XXXXXX since this site was relaunched on March 12, 2003.

At some point, we began to assume that meant the Board was 'relaunched' on that date, too, so for instance the Fifth Anniversary Roleplay was on March 12 2008. We may be wrong. :P

As I've said to Rina, there's a trio of questions you can definitely answer (How did you find the PPC? Why did you decide to stay? How did things change between you joining and you leaving?), and I'm sure there's something else for you to talk about. Did you go in the chatroom much? Do you remember Fill The Plothole, or (ehehe) the Shipfests? I happen to know you were HEAVILY involved in the early Shipfests... in fact, you may even have been behind the first one.

hS

Re: The relaunch... by BeautyID on 2013-03-05 02:25:00 UTC Reply

You may be wrong, or you may very well be right. It's entirely possible there was some massive relaunch of the board while I was here, and I've just completely forgotten about it. Like I said, I'm 99% sure this is exactly the same board as the one I joined back in '02, but that doesn't mean it wasn't relaunched at some point in the same style. I'll have to think harder, and see if I can't remember.

I was in the chatroom all the time at one point. I remember some delightful roleplays, particularly one involving Morgoth? There was one hilarious one with the sons of Elrond, Aragorn and Legolas that I printed out. If only I knew what I did with it! I would guess it took place in 2004.

I remember Fill The Plothole vaguely, but I don't remember actually participating in it - though of course that doesn't mean I didn't. I didn't remember the Shipfests at all until I thought for a minute, and NOW, yes, I remember. If it's what I'm thinking it is. For example, I believe there was a very provocative story entitled something like 'Huinesoron's Very Odd Day'?

If I was behind the first one, oh dear. Well, I hereby offer my most humble apologies. XD

By the end of things... by Huinesoron on 2013-03-05 09:59:00 UTC Reply

... there were no less than three Odd Day stories, with, uh, 'shenanighans' involving virtually everyone on the Board (and a fair few agents). It was... quite epic.

What would be fantastic would be if you could talk about the Old Chat - the roleplays, and whatever else took place there. (Actually, given what I've heard about that place... not everything that happened there, please). So far I don't think anyone else was even here when it existed...

hS

Ye Olde Chat by BeautyID on 2013-03-05 16:08:00 UTC Reply

No kidding? You mean that chat that was around back in like '04? NO ONE else was here when it existed?! I know you were here, did you never enter the chat? Wise choice. :P

Though as a footnote to that, to preserve my own reputation (cough), I don't remember anything totally depraved ever going on there. A lot of silliness and subtext, but I think it was mostly PG-13. o_O'

I found the roleplay I was talking about. It's entirely mad and the only person going by their actual screenname (as opposed to an LotR character's name) is Jon, so I'm not going to bother posting it. I can't even remember who the participants really were.

Nooooo, post it! by Huinesoron on 2013-03-06 09:53:00 UTC Reply

I'm actually planning a text archive to go with the film, for all those bits and pieces that don't get read out. That would be a perfect addition to the whole thing.

There's a few people around who were here when the chat was up, but none of them have replied to this thread. :P I went in occasionally - the 'Lord of the Things' RP on AW's site features me as Gandalf the Grey - but didn't often enjoy it. I don't go into the new one, either. :P

(You have a reputation? Where on earth did you steal that from?)

hS

Okay, here it is! by BeautyID on 2013-03-07 01:29:00 UTC Reply

You asked for it. But it makes very little sense, because I only actually printed out part of it, so there's not really a beginning or an end. I did provide a small explanation: Eldarion has decided he wants to marry men, Aragorn is not happy about this, Elrohir has gone insane and it egging Eldarion on, Jon is an Aragorn imposter. Hmm... yep.

Eldarion: I only like Men, and maybe an elf here or there.

Aragorn: WOMEN! ELVES!

Elrohir: SPIDERS!

Jon: *would call for a medic, if only was not unconscious*

Elrohir: LIONS!

Eldarion: Dad, 'Men' is a race. :-P

Aragorn: Elrohir!

Elrohir: TIGERS!

Arwen: (ok, I go away for two minutes and now I'm totally lost)

Elrohir: BEARS!

Aragorn: Alright then, have fun with the Rohirrim women!

Agent Talia: Oh my

Eldarion: Dad's mad at me because I want to shag the Rohirrim.

Elrohir: RIDERS!

Eldarion: I will have fun with the Rohirrim women.

Aragorn: No, I just don't want you to shag the men

Elrohir: MEN!

Eldarion: :)

Aragorn: Good son

Elrohir: Men.

Jon: (I disguised myself badly as Aragorn, and tried to corrupt Elrohir just as Aragorn got back. :P)

Eldarion: *Looks innocent*

Aragorn: Have grandchildren!

Elrohir: (I've gone from weepy to Bagenders!Frodo to nearly Bursar material)

Jon: *wakes up* Children with the Witch King! I'm sure we can find a way to revive him.

Elrohir: With MEN!

Eldarion: I'll have fun with the women... and the men- What?! Nothing! *Runs*

Eldarion: *Blinks*

Aragorn: ..

Aragorn: Eldarion...

Elrohir: *nodds happily* Good nephew. Men.

Eldarion: Witch Kings really aren't my thing.

Eldarion: Yes, Father?

Aragorn: ONLY women..

Eldarion: Why, Father?

Jon: Sure they are, son.

Elrohir: ONLY male women, he means.

Eldarion: (LMAO, Elrohir. XD)

Aragorn: Because you will be king someday!

Eldarion: So?

Elrohir: You are DA KIG!

Aragorn: You need a Queen!

Jon: No, because I plan on living forever.

Eldarion: I'll have a Queen.

Elrohir: A male Queen!

Aragorn: And not that kind of queen!

Elrohir: A Drag Queen!

Agent Talia: Drag queen... oh dear

Eldarion: *Sporfle*

Aragorn: *handforhead*

Eldarion: Dad, I want Legolas to be my Queen. XD

Elrohir: Good Eldarion.

Jon: You can't have him. He's mine, son.

Elrohir: Good choice.

Elladan: Hey, sorry, but I have to go. Bye!

Aragorn: ...ARWEN!

Elrohir: Bye.

Eldarion: Back off, Jon.

Elrohir: Arwen?

Aragorn: Bye Elladan...

Jon: Ok...

Eldarion: Legolas only has eyes for me.

Aragorn: Yes, Arwen

Elrohir: FROGS!

Jon: My son hates me. ;;

Aragorn: Legolas is currently surrounded by fangirls

Elrohir: R-r-r-r-r-

Eldarion: I'll kill the fangirls for him.

Aragorn: If you can get past the fangirls I'll let you marry Legolas AND a woman.

Eldarion: COOL!

Elrohir: *nods happily and gives Eldarion a bow*

Agent Talia: Oh goodness

Elrohir: A male woman.

Aragorn: BUT YOU MUCH MARRY A WOMAN!

Elrohir: A MALE woman.

Eldarion: If I kill all the fangirls, can I marry Legolas, a woman, AND a man?!

Aragorn: A WOMAN WOMAN!

Elrohir: MALE woman!

Jon: Don't forget the Witch King!

Elrohir: SPIDER!

Aragorn: No, just Legolas and a woman who can reproduce.

Eldarion: NOT the Witch King. >.
Elrohir: MALE woman.

Eldarion: *Pouts* Father, I want Legolas, a man, and a woman.

Jon: Oh, come one. He's really not that bad.

Elrohir: *nods* HOBBIT!

Aragorn: *sighs* I can't win...

Eldarion: The Witch King's dead, Elboron's mum killed him.

Elrohir: BILBO!

Aragorn: Alright! As long as you have a woman to make heirs, I'm good.

Eldarion: Yay!

Elrohir: Bilbo!

Jon: Who writes history, me - the king - or Elboron's mum - a crossdresser?

Eldarion: Bilbo's too old, and I don't like hobbits... too short.

Eldarion: Elboron's mum. ^^

Aragorn: I'm the king! You are an imposter!

Elrohir: ...Pippin.

Aragorn: (Mm.../I/ want Pippin...)

Jon: No I'm not! Look at this /obviously real/ stubble!

Eldarion: (lol)

Elrohir: PIPPIN!

Eldarion: I'm going to marry Elboron.

Aragorn: ...

Arwen: (*sighs* I'm so tired, I can't keep up... I'll have to take a rain check on this)

Eldarion: (lmao..)

Elrohir: *nods happily* ELZORO!

Aragorn: *blinks, takes medication*

Jon: Only if you can produce an heir for me.

Arwen: wait... did my son just say he's marrying a MAN?

Aragorn: ME!

Elrohir: (Bye)

Eldarion: You're not my father, Jon.

Eldarion: Yes, do you have a problem with that, Dad?

Aragorn: (Bye?)

Jon: I'm not? But I've got stubble... And greasy hair.

Elrohir: (Hi?)

Aragorn: (...)

Eldarion: Dad has clean hair now that he's king.

Aragorn: Nope! *grins* Not anymore!

Eldarion: Nice try.

Elrohir: LEGOLAS! ELZORO! PIPPIN! MALE WOMAN!

Arwen: Honey, you know your father and I iwill always love you... but... this is rather a shock... and Aragorn, you will shower by the end of the day or no more cupboard time for /you/!

Eldarion: *Stares at Elrohir blankly*

Agent Talia ...>:(

Aragorn: As long as you've got heirs, I'm good!

Eldarion: You'll have plenty of heirs, calm down.

Aragorn: I'm clean!

Elrohir: Legolas, Elboron, Pippin, male woman.

Aragorn: It's the imposter that's not!

Jon: Why do you get all the heirs? *jealous*

Aragorn: And woman

Eldarion: What about a woman?

Aragorn: You need at least one!

Elrohir: *nods* Legolas, Elboron, Pippin, male woman, woman woman.

Jon: I'm sorry Arwen. I'll bath later. Cupboard time now?

Arwen: ... Oo?

Aragorn: *hugs Arwen*

Eldarion: Ok! I TOLD you I'd marry a woman and make plenty of babies!

Eldarion: OK?!

Elrohir: FIVE!

Aragorn: Good, I'm happy then!

Eldarion: ...Five. Sure.

Elrohir: HUNDRED!

Eldarion: ...

Jon: Why don't you ever try to please me? ;;

Eldarion: I don't think so.

Elrohir: FIVE!

Eldarion: Because you're not my father, Jon, you're an imposter.

Arwen: Elrohir, will you kindly stop shouting? Being mortal has not affected my sensitive ears.

Eldarion: Yes, five, sure.

Elrohir: hundred?

Eldarion: *Rolls eyes* Not my problem, mom.

Eldarion: NOT HUNDRED!!!!!

Eldarion: --'

Aragorn: Let's go to the room that Galadriel gave us! *picks up Arwen, goes into room*

Jon: Thousand. You never know /when/ a Great War will pop up and kill most of my heirs.

Elrohir: HUNDRED!!!!!

Elrohir: FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND!!!!!

Eldarion: Iluvatar...

Eldarion: *Hits Elrohir over the head with a brick*

Elrohir: *falls down*

Elrohir: xx

Jon: ...I don't know, Elrohir. If he has five hundred thousand, I'll have trouble putting them all through college.

Elrohir: *wakes up*

Elrohir: Five hundred thousand, half girls.

Eldarion: I'm not having five hundred thousand kids. >.
Aragorn: *runs out with sword* KILL THE IMPOSTER!

Elrohir: Busy. Start early.

Eldarion: How the heck would I do that with one elf, one man, and one woman?!

Aragorn: *chases Jon*

Jon: No, no... How about we come to an agreement? *runs away*

Elrohir: Mpreg?

Eldarion: Hmm... :-P

Aragorn: *slashy slash* KILL!

Jon: Maybe you can recognize me as your sexier, evil twin?

Eldarion: Dad, Legolas is pregnant! XD

Elrohir: *grins*

Aragorn: *suddenly, the medication has sent Aragorn spiraling out of character*

Elrohir: Good job, nephew. Congratulations.

Eldarion: Thanks, Uncle! ^^

Elrohir: Twins?

Aragorn: *blinks* That's great son!

Aragorn: *keeps chasing*

Eldarion: Quintuplets!

Jon: Good job, son! *still running*

Eldarion: (lol!)

Elrohir: ^^ Congratulations!

Aragorn: *striks Jon*

Aragorn: Mwehehehehehehe

Elrohir: *watches Aragorn strik in amazement*

. . . The End.

(How could you question my reputation? Of course I have a reputation, much like my compatriots the sons of Feanor had 'reputations'.)

That's the funniest thing I've read in a while. Thanks... by DawnFire on 2013-03-07 21:56:00 UTC Reply

...for sharing it, and for having printed it out in the first place! I was laughing all the way through :D

...someone should do a dramatic reading for the documentary...if anyone can manage not to laugh hysterically all the way through, that is.

~DF
... yep, that place was insane. by Huinesoron on 2013-03-07 08:27:00 UTC Reply

This will go in the documentation for sure.

(I wouldn't say you lot had a 'reputation' - more of a 'giant neon sign warning everyone to run far, far away before the Feanorians come any closer'...)

hS

Clearly we were just starved for affection... by BeautyID on 2013-03-07 16:55:00 UTC Reply

Hug a Feanorian!!! ;D

*declares Hug-a-Feanorian Day* :-) by Khaosity on 2013-03-07 21:22:00 UTC Reply

Did you know there's a song by Nightwish called "The Kinslayer"? It's actually about something else, but the title seemed appropriate ;-)
Also, Nightwish stuff is always awesome. *has just shamelessly plugged favorite band*

I'm there! by DawnFire on 2013-03-07 21:54:00 UTC Reply

...er, as long as I have a guarantee that no Feanorian will kill, maim, or in any way injure me should I take part in the Hug-a-Feanorian Day activities. Feanorians are rather dangerous, you know.

~DF

Don't worry... by Khaosity on 2013-03-07 22:40:00 UTC Reply

...they have been bribed with shinies! Of course, if you insult them, steal their shiny things, or otherwise annoy them, you will be marked down as a suicide. You have been duly warned :-P

O.O by DawnFire on 2013-03-07 23:08:00 UTC Reply

Don't worry, I know better than to take the Feanorians' shinies. No matter how shiny they are, I shall resist. I know full well what happens if I don't! (An Oath, three Kinslayings, and a war that...well...doesn't actually kill me, but gets me imprisoned). And insulting...another big no. As for annoying...well, most people tend to think I'm nice, so hopefully there won't be a problem there...

(But yes, that's most definitely suicide. Extremely. Not high on my list of things to do.)

...I just had this mental image of Agent Dawn losing what self-control she has and glomping Feanorians while they're still dazed from the Sue she's just killed. Hopefully, that daze will last long enough to keep her from getting killed...

~DawnFire

That's a cute mental image... by Khaosity on 2013-03-10 01:54:00 UTC Reply

But one would hope there'd be some not-quite-as-dangerous people around for her to glomp. Flying glomps and general hyperness were what I had in mind under "otherwise annoy", I never meant to imply you weren't nice. Brief hugs are fine, flying glomps are not. Except, possibly, if you're Elros or Elrond and the Feanorian in question is Maglor. It did say a great love grew between them, so glomps may be forgiveable :)

Happy to. by DawnFire on 2013-03-02 14:41:00 UTC Reply

Bit of a late response, but I'm happy to do anything that involves writing--as in, I'd rather not do audio or video, but I'm happy to answer questions or write things down or whatever.

Actually, something I could do that could be interesting (I think) to see in a documentary like this--well, I'll explain.

I feel that I owe a lot to the PPC. This is something I've said before, but it's true; I really do owe so much of what I know about writing interesting, relatable characters and plots to the PPC (and to OFUM and various MSTs, and Deleterius--basically, I owe a lot to the Canon Protection Initiative in general, and that's something I can talk about). I can also talk about what it's like to have found the PPC so long ago (ok, about 4 or 5 years ago, but I've come a long way since then) and what it's like to see it still going so strong. Not sure if that's exactly what you want for this documentary, but it could be interesting to talk about the PPC's influence on young writers, and on people's lives in general.

And, of course, if that doesn't fit into this documentary's theme, I'm happy to answer questions someone writes for me.

Side point: I have a question/clarification for you, hS, but I don't think you've seen it. It's actually at the very bottom of the page right now, so I thought I'd better draw your attention to it before it disappears to the previous page, since I really would like an answer. Could you take a look?

Thanks,

~DawnFire

Not late at all! by Huinesoron on 2013-03-04 09:18:00 UTC Reply

It's absolutely fine for you to write something for someone else to read - I knew going in that there'd be people unwilling/able to record anything. And someone to talk about the impact of the PPC/CPI on young writers would be fantastic - it seems like something that would go either at the beginning or the very end, since it doesn't have a neat slot in the timeline.

Probably the latter, in fact. I've mentioned a couple of times the three questions I'd like to ask everyone (How'd you get here, why'd you stay, and what's changed), and your suggestion would make a nice closer for that.

(And I... well, 'answered' may be a little bit strong to describe what I did to your question)

hS

Well, considering when I first saw this post... by DawnFire on 2013-03-04 09:57:00 UTC Reply

...which was when it had two replies...yeah, it's a bit late :)

Oh, good. I mean, I like reading stuff aloud, I'm just a little iffy about putting it out on the internet, and I also technically just have the microphone in my laptop for recording equipment, so it's doubtful that anything I recorded would be all that clear anyway.

Really? Cool :) And trust me, I can go on for a while. Or for a slightly shorter while, if that's what's necessary. But basically, I'm pretty sure I found the PPC at a time when I was at the tail end of growing out of being a mild Suethor (I know, horrifying--you should see some of the chats I unearthed recently), and I really do think it helped me grow as a writer. And, of course, it entertained me immensely, so that was a bonus. I can also talk about what led me to actually say hello on the Board, and about what's changed between my initial encounters with the CPI/PPC and now--there was a year or two where the most contact I had with the CPI in general was using Mary-Sue Litmus Tests and reading the occasional related article. Whatever works; I like to talk, and I like to write, and in this case, they go together.

(Well, my brain has...er, responded is a bit too mild a word. Actually, I have written a response to your answer {which I was very pleased--and excited--to get}; it should be posted as soon as I get a chance to proofread it. I do hope you know what you've started; my brain took the idea and ran away with it, cackling madly, and in the next hour I ended up with about 1,000 words worth of ideas. My ideas keep snowballing lately...Then again, for the most part, that's a good thing.)

(My planned interludes just get crazier and crazier...oh, well. Hopefully that means they'll be fun to read. If nothing else, they'll be fun to write.)

~DF

*-peeks in* Can I still help? by Rina on 2013-03-02 12:46:00 UTC Reply

Interviewing, acting as a voice for other people's contributions and anything you order me to do ,I can do it! :)

Of course you can! by Huinesoron on 2013-03-04 09:07:00 UTC Reply

At the moment it's looking like there'll be a handful of questions for everyone to answer (How did you find the PPC? Why did you decide to stay? How have things changed since you joined/How did things change between you joining and you leaving? ... and one other which I won't mention - spoilers), and then hopefully everyone can do a piece on something specific. So, looking over the list... if you came here from TVTropes (lots of people did), that's still there to talk about... or if you use the wiki a lot... or if you've been involved in any roleplays here?

Then of course there's a lot of things you can read and comment on even if you weren't here when they happened - it's up to you.

Any thoughts?

hS

*Teleports back onto the Board* by Starwind Rohana on 2013-03-01 20:43:00 UTC Reply

Hi, hS! *Waves.* Long time, no see, I guess... I just got a nostalgia hit and thought I'd drop back in.

I know I've been gone for ... a considerable period of time ... but I'd be willing to talk about the time I was around and what it was like being in the community back then, if you like.

Holy heck. Welcome back! by Huinesoron on 2013-03-02 08:23:00 UTC Reply

You were actually one of the people I was going to try and look up and ~~pester~~ interview, so it's great to see you back by yourself.

Since this thread is rather lacking in specifics so far, I'm going to start trying to pin some down, so:

In addition to a general thingy about The Community Of Your Day, would you be willing to describe/be interviewed about the Multiverse Monitor? Or, indeed, anything else specific - that one just springs to mind for-some-reason-can't-imagine-why.

hS

Oh, and also... by Starwind Rohana on 2013-03-04 15:34:00 UTC Reply

How about the Snowball Fights? As I recall, those were madcap hilarity, especially the first one. (And accidental innuendos, for some reason...)

That occurred to me... by Huinesoron on 2013-03-04 18:17:00 UTC Reply

... about five minutes after I replied the first time. :P

If you can magic up something to say about the Snowfight, that would be awesome! I linked the prose version somewhere up there (2005, maybe?), so if you need to reread, it's there for the asking...

hS

Sure! by Starwind Rohana on 2013-03-03 07:50:00 UTC Reply

Well, the Multiverse Monitor was my major contribution, apart from a lot of chattering. *Grins.*

Shiny! by VixenMage on 2013-02-28 23:05:00 UTC Reply

I think I can hang a date on the IRC, with a little GTalk-archiving, and I'd be happy to do an audio or video thing on it!

That would be fantastic. by Huinesoron on 2013-03-02 08:28:00 UTC Reply

If you could do a specific piece on the IRC, it would really help, since it is of course one of the major components of the community.

hS

Definitely. by VixenMage on 2013-03-03 03:46:00 UTC Reply

I was thinking a brief (and tactful) history, emphasis on the community and silliness aspects. Dann says he is also willing to collaborate - so we will be in touch!

That sounds brilliant. by Huinesoron on 2013-03-04 09:04:00 UTC Reply

Although the Board usually only sees the things that would need 'tactfully' not mentioning, I'm pretty sure there's heaps of community/silliness going on over there, so hopefully it won't even be too difficult for you!

hS

Fun! by Cassie on 2013-02-28 08:12:00 UTC Reply

I'm willing to do any vocals as desired, though I'd rather not do video of myself on the grounds that I am rarely photogenic enough. :P So yeah, consider me a freelancing voice actress. Interviews, readings, etc. :D
Ooh! I'll help! by Karen on 2013-02-28 04:41:00 UTC Reply

I can provide readings of things, but only audio. I'll also do some interviews if somebody else gives me questions! Or I suppose, if you give me some sort of directions, I could think up some questions on my own? I'd really love to contribute, even if I'm technically not a full member yet (Permission an' all that).

'Full member' =/= 'Permission'. by Huinesoron on 2013-03-02 08:30:00 UTC Reply

Several of our oldest members - such as BeautyID, who wrote the poem at the top of the Constitution - never had Permission. If anyone's been giving you the idea that you need Permission to be considered a full member, they're wildly wrong.

I think it'd be fantastic to have a 'What the PPC is like for people just joining'-type piece from you, and also... well, anything else. Is there anything on the list which you've read or had experience with now, even though it was made a long time ago?

hS

Sign me up! by Myrddin on 2013-02-28 01:42:00 UTC Reply

If you can find something for me to do. :)

I gotta warn you though, though I found the ToS and OFUM several years ago, I never went past that until a couple months ago, so I can't really help out with the timeline or incidences that happen around here.

I'd be happy to help out with questions, and though I'm not the best artist, I could try my hand at providing images, and I could be a voice too. :)

Not necessarily true. by Huinesoron on 2013-03-02 08:34:00 UTC Reply

There's obviously a fair few things on there you have to have experienced (the Gatherings, the Badfic Contest), but there's also loads you can talk about even if you've only run into them since. The Reorganisation, for instance, or the Anniversary Party and Invasions. Heck, something like Tungsten_Monk's troll dissection could be discussed by anyone, to reflect on how it shows the PPC's personality as it were.

And, of course, OFUM itself is on the list... so, any thoughts?

hS

True-ish by Myrddin on 2013-03-02 19:15:00 UTC Reply

Since I wasn't on the boards at the time I didn't get to experience this side of things, but I do remember coming across the Badfic contest the first time I read through OFUM, probably shortly after it finished, and it was posted with the rest of the stuff. It was a scream! XD

I'll definitely get some thoughts together for you on OFUM, and I'll have a read through the dissection and re-org/party/invasions too :)

KittyNoodles, reporting for stuffs! by KittyNoodles on 2013-02-27 21:48:00 UTC Reply

I'd like to do a little piece about how I found and came to join the PPC, if I may! I'll even do it video style, now that I finally have the means to record videos! (That said, any specific video format you're looking for, or does it matter? I'm thinking file types here - like video.example or something.)

And I'd be willing to write questions or do quick (very quick) sketches for anyone who would like their real face to remain a mystery. :D

Excellent. by Huinesoron on 2013-03-02 08:36:00 UTC Reply

We always need people's personal perspectives. Are there any other things on the list you know enough about to want to talk about? Actually, and I forgot to put this on there, I'm wondering if the Postcard Exchange might not be worth adding to 2012... remember that?

hS

Eeeeeeegsellent. by KittyNoodles on 2013-03-02 10:38:00 UTC Reply

(I had to.)

Well, I know the Original Series pretty much as well as I know most Mother Goose stories, and I've read Crashing Down (although that's not on the list, or else I'm not seeing the link to it...) And I have a few memorable mishaps from my early days of editing the Wiki... ^///^;

We should definitely add the Postcard Exchange! That was so much fun (once I found a postcard)!

Crashing Down... by Huinesoron on 2013-03-02 12:15:00 UTC Reply

... is sort of subsumed in The Reorganisation, the former being the sequel to the later. You have read Reorg... right? :P

Okay! So I'll put you down to talk about the Postcard Exchange, yes?

hS

... by KittyNoodles on 2013-03-03 06:16:00 UTC Reply

OF COURSE I'VE READ REORGANIZATION, WHYEVER WOULD YOU THINK OTHERWISE HA HA HA HA HA--

No, not yet. To be honest, Crashing Down depressed me so much I haven't been back to Tangled Webs yet...

Yes. Absolutely~!

Like me, right? by SpecstacularSC on 2013-02-28 06:40:00 UTC Reply

I'm kind of half-wondering if that wasn't a partial stab in my direction...

That said, it would take all of one look at the wiki to see my ugly mug anyhow, having finally made myself a profile page, but all the same, I'd much rather prefer to just send in a written thing and just pray whoever voices for me (because my voice is garbage on recording devices) doesn't decide to voice me in a horribly Victorian English noblewoman's voice.

Actually, that'd be hilarious. XD

Er, no, actually. by KittyNoodles on 2013-02-28 22:32:00 UTC Reply

Despite the way I behave IRL, you'd be surprised how little I actually think of you when making snarky comments. Also, I was being sincere and generous, not snarky and jerkish.

Whoops, hold the phone... by SpecstacularSC on 2013-03-01 03:24:00 UTC Reply

My bad. Appatently I was implying jerk/snark.

And apparently I can't type apparently correctly half the time.

Okay, so apologies everywhere.

...I'm not taking back my objection. by KittyNoodles on 2013-03-01 07:10:00 UTC Reply

Eh, I responded a bit more sharply to it either way (in my initial response). So apologies all around.

That said, OBJECTION. What does appatently even mean? My Internet's spellchecker doesn't recognize it as a word!

Having now checked... by SpecstacularSC on 2013-03-01 07:32:00 UTC Reply

It's not a word.

It's a bullhonkey spelling my phone decided to recognize as a substitute for apparently.

Par for the course with this junker...

I wasn't implying any jerk/snark. by SpecstacularSC on 2013-03-01 03:22:00 UTC Reply

I was just saying that I fall into the "will never reveal my face online" category.

99.9% of the time.

OBJECTION! by KittyNoodles on 2013-03-01 07:09:00 UTC Reply

-slams desk- Yes you were! That is a blatant contradiction in your testimony, Mr. SC!

HOLD IT! by SpecstacularSC on 2013-03-01 07:34:00 UTC Reply

*Points dramatically* I have already rectified the issues with my testimony! Your argument is void, prosecutor KittyNoodles!

HOLD IT! by KittyNoodles on 2013-03-02 02:38:00 UTC Reply

I never said I was a prosecutor! I merely chose not to point! What do you say to THAT, phony lawyer?!

TAKE THAT! by SpecstacularSC on 2013-03-02 03:17:00 UTC Reply

You never denied it, either! And who says you HAD to point? Godot never points!

OBJECTION! by KittyNoodles on 2013-03-02 10:30:00 UTC Reply

Gesturing with your coffee cup counts as pointing! And in any event, YOUR ARGUMENT WORKED AGAINST YOU! I was trying to argue that not pointing did not mean I was taking the prosecutor's role, and your argument just made it sound as though pointing would have meant I was being the prosecutor!

That's right... You just strengthened my point!

...HOLD IT. by SpecstacularSC on 2013-03-02 10:37:00 UTC Reply

That...

What?

HOLD IT! by KittyNoodles on 2013-03-02 10:39:00 UTC Reply

AHA! So you admit to counterarguing your own argument, eh, Mr. SC?

...OBJECTION! by SpecstacularSC on 2013-03-02 10:41:00 UTC Reply

I have not had enough coffee for this, court is in recess...

This seems interesting. by World-Jumper on 2013-02-27 20:16:00 UTC Reply

You seem to be exited for this project, and seem to have really thought it out. I cannot provide much information for you, however, I would be happy to provide readings of either others questions/answers, and anything else that you could need read. I am interested in acting or voice acting as a potential career (though likely just a hobby), and am currently trying to expand my speaking range and quality, so I would be more than happy to assist in this department.

I can only think of a couple little things that could be added. One is a section on our little quirks, such as gift giving to new members and the random role plays we do. I know this is a 'personal' story, but the PPC has so many little nuances to it, that there should be a specific time slot dedicated to it.

Another is having little interludes from the fictional world. When the person speaks, he/she could have their agents come in and say some things about their creator, only to be neralized of the fact they have a creator at the end. I just think having little moments that have to do with the in-univerce PPC would be nice, and funny of corse. Hey, how about have the Sunflower Official do the narration in-between moments from the community. I, being male, would be more than happy to provide the voice for our supreme overlo-I mean, generous Official.

I don't know what else to say, other than if you could get Jay and Acacia, Miss Cam, and other founding members to provide some of their thoughts, that would be awesome. Don't know how one would get in contact with them though...

Good luck with the documentary!

You make good suggestions. by Huinesoron on 2013-02-27 21:02:00 UTC Reply

1/ The little quirks: my original thoughts on this, though I managed to lose them somewhere in between, was that we could have a handful of people talking about how they found the PPC, what happened when they joined, etc, in the appropriate slot in the timeline. You could volunteer for that! The roleplays and other games are mostly mentioned by name on one of their early appearances (Fill the Plothole, Things I Am Not Allowed To Do, the Snowfight and Fifth Anniversary, the Mary-Sue Invasion...)

2/ Well, the narration is being done by Agent Dafydd, because he's had practice, and I'm planning on trying to interview the team at Radio Nutmeg (which should be on the timeline for September 2008). And of course if anyone wants to do something tie-in-y in the film, they're more than welcome.

3/ I will be trying to hunt down a bunch of oldbies. First, though, I need to know there'll be enough to build on... hintsubtlehint...

hS

Not related to the documentary, but... by World-Jumper on 2013-03-04 20:18:00 UTC Reply

It says on the wiki that you are a permission giver, and I have been waiting a while for a response to my permission request. If you would not mind looking over it, or directing one of the other permission givers to the request, I would be so grateful. The request is right here: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=199610;article=238626;title=PPC%20Posting%20Board

If you see this, thanks.

Never mind, I got a responce (nm) by World-Jumper on 2013-03-05 04:47:00 UTC Reply

My recording things are terrible and I am unphotogenic. by Lily Winterwood on 2013-02-28 03:24:00 UTC Reply

But if I can, I'll try to get together a recording of how I got into the PPC, because I'm somewhat of an oldbie so yeah.

You are kind of old now, aren't you? by Huinesoron on 2013-03-02 08:41:00 UTC Reply

In the PPC, I mean, the so-called 'real world' is irrelevant here. :P

I'm trying to remember just when you joined, but drawing something of a blank... I do know you've spent a fair amount of time playing around with the Mary-Sue Factories, so in addition to your personal piece, would you like to discuss them, as part of the wider Reorganisation/Crashing Down phenomenon, and how they've affected your writing? Because I think the way you've picked the Factories up and run (and run and run) with them is one of the things that makes the PPC community special - sharing and expanding ideas.

Alternately (or additionally!), there's the Badfic Contest sitting up there somewhere for someone to talk about...

hS

Well, I discovered it in 2006, but I joined in about 2008... by Lily Winterwood on 2013-03-09 07:38:00 UTC Reply

I suppose I could talk about playing around with Mary Sue Factories, yeah, and the Badfic contests too (considering I was the first one to write goodfic for the badfic contest).

Lemme see what I can conjure up.

Same with me. by SpecstacularSC on 2013-02-28 06:54:00 UTC Reply

On the recording and photogenic parts.

I sound like I wear polka-dot bow ties and suspenders on camera, and look like a dork with a mousse-stash.

Which, mind you, I am a dork with a mousse-stash.

BUT I DO NOT WEAR BOW TIES OR SUSPENDERS.

Hey, don't diss the bow tie! by World-Jumper on 2013-02-28 09:15:00 UTC Reply

Bow ties ARE cool. Deal with it.

Yeah, but polka dot ones? by SpecstacularSC on 2013-02-28 15:40:00 UTC Reply

Or, geez, I've even seen a plaid one.