Subject: OBJECTION!
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Posted on: 2013-03-02 10:30:00 UTC
Gesturing with your coffee cup counts as pointing! And in any event, YOUR ARGUMENT WORKED AGAINST YOU! I was trying to argue that not pointing did not mean I was taking the prosecutor's role, and your argument just made it sound as though pointing would have meant I was being the prosecutor!
That's right... You just strengthened my point!
Summary
Since the tenth anniversary of this Board's launch is coming up, we are putting together a documentary about the history and nature of the PPC as a community. If you want to see this finished, please keep reading - there are lots of ways you can help out!
I don't know if this would be helpful or not, but I know a lot about OFUs, being in the middle of writing one and having read many besides. It's the only part of the PPC-verse I'm sure I know about, so yeah...I'm volunteering. However, I have no recording equipment, so I could make a statement about OFUs that someone else (another OFU author, maybe) could read. That is, if that's considered part of PPC history and is relevant to the documentary
And that would be brilliant. At the moment I might have two other people talking about OFUM itself, but a piece on OFUs, writing them and reading them and the impact they have, would be fantastic.
hS
Impact? Not sure what you mean by that. I could definitely talk about the challenges of writing one and how it compares to a PPC mission, the morals (as in, they're a way to show how badfic writers can improve, rather than a way to vicariously torture Suethors), and the parodic tone and how you have to play it right (for example, you could argue that Sauron is OOC in OFUM, but Miss Cam makes it work).
I'll get writing.
I can barely use my computer as it is, so I won't be much help with any fancy tech stuff, but I can write and answer interview questions.
Did you have a date in mind for when we should start compiling things? I've also not been on the IRC for a while, so I don't know if anything else has been discussed there. Unfortunately, I can't really contribute anything else to the timeline.
My current 'plan' (a bit of a strong word, that) is to post again with a filled-out timeline, check if everyone's okay with what they're slotted in for, and sort out deadlines and emails then. At the moment there's some gaping gaps in the timeline, so I'm still hoping for someone to turn up wanting to talk about them. Things I Am Not Allowed To Do is still open, as is the Holiday Filks, the Lost Tales... possibly even the Wiki.
hS
What file format would you like the audio or video to be in? Also, approximately, how 'loud' do you want the audio to be? I know you can quiet down most audio, but it is hard to enhance sound well, and toning down too much can affect quality. Just a range around what you want would be nice.
As for the questions, do you want a specific list of the questions I am being 'asked,' or would it be OK for me to just sort of ramble on with questions or topics as discussion starters? I am fine with drafting up some questions if you want, I just tend to ramble well, and you can usually get good sound bytes from my wild discussions with myself and the camera. I guess what I am asking is, how organized do you want me to be?
Also, I would be happy to voice act some role-plays, important posts, or just funny moments on the board. Heck, I'll even sing a few filks if you want! (you may not like what you hear though... I'll try and sing well, I swear!)
One post I was thinking of doing was this one: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?id=199610;article=235598
Why? No reason other than it's funny, and it deals with our lovely friends the spambots. To have it as a form of intro to the spambots, or more specifically the song inside the post being the intro, would be funny. Well, at least, that's my opinion. In the end, that's your decision.
If I come up with any other questions, I will make sure to ask them.
Formatwise I can probably deal with most things (although if you can help it, don't send me .avi or .wav - I'm not made of hard drive space!).
Whether you want questions or not is entirely up to you; do I take it from this and your previous comment that you'd like to talk about a) the whole 'greet newbies with heaps of stuff' culture and b) spambots? Because I think we can slot both of those in.
I agree that the spam song is worth getting in - I'll find a track of it, I think - but if you want to read the post you linked - say, down to the first mention of the Vikings, skipping the line from the song, as a sort of introduction - that would be cool.
I've also tentatively pegged you for reading the SO's all-consoles message at the start of the Fifth Anniversary Roleplay (I think it's the first think in the linked writeup), as an introduction to that in particular and the topic of RPs in general. Up for it?
hS
Do you think this inexperenced newbie, who at this point does not even have permission yet, could play me?
((World-Jumper: HECK YEAH I'M-! I mean... Yes. Yes I am up for it. Thank you so much for the honor of playing our grand official. I'll even break out my Blue Snowball for the role!
As for the questions, well, you'll see when you get them. I think I'm going to sorta ramble, then I'll sort out the connected bits for you, so it's easyer to edit. But I was around for two spambot attacks, so I thought that would be appropriate for me to talk abot. But on the whole, I'll talk about what I know about. We'll see what hapens.))
*FLASH*
You did not just see me talking without the italics. You did not see the Sub Rosa correcting me. You are all to report back to your RC's and continue with your day.
((The open italics is on purpose. Now everything anybody says when on this post is in italics, so it seems like he always had italics when speaking! Ain't I clever.))
Delete the spaces inside the 's, and if you want to do the little trick I did as the Sunflower Official (though I would not recommend that you do it, it tends to make people a little annoyed) just leave out the or just the /. Simple.
Watch me do that sometime by accident and then not preview the post...
I can't help much, as I don't really remember big turning points in the history of the PPC or anything like that. But I do remember when I joined the board, and that was the late summer of 2002. It was, I'm 99% certain, this exact board. I can't remember exactly how I found it, but if OFUM launched in August of '02 is was possibly through that, or through reviews I read on other people's fics on ff.net. I lurked for maybe a couple months before I started posting, but that was definitely no later than autumn of '02. I don't remember anything about this relaunch of '03. I think old age is catching up with me.
... comes from the message at the top of the (now deceased) Oddlots Homepage, which reads:
You are approximately visitor XXXXXX since this site was relaunched on March 12, 2003.
At some point, we began to assume that meant the Board was 'relaunched' on that date, too, so for instance the Fifth Anniversary Roleplay was on March 12 2008. We may be wrong. :P
As I've said to Rina, there's a trio of questions you can definitely answer (How did you find the PPC? Why did you decide to stay? How did things change between you joining and you leaving?), and I'm sure there's something else for you to talk about. Did you go in the chatroom much? Do you remember Fill The Plothole, or (ehehe) the Shipfests? I happen to know you were HEAVILY involved in the early Shipfests... in fact, you may even have been behind the first one.
hS
You may be wrong, or you may very well be right. It's entirely possible there was some massive relaunch of the board while I was here, and I've just completely forgotten about it. Like I said, I'm 99% sure this is exactly the same board as the one I joined back in '02, but that doesn't mean it wasn't relaunched at some point in the same style. I'll have to think harder, and see if I can't remember.
I was in the chatroom all the time at one point. I remember some delightful roleplays, particularly one involving Morgoth? There was one hilarious one with the sons of Elrond, Aragorn and Legolas that I printed out. If only I knew what I did with it! I would guess it took place in 2004.
I remember Fill The Plothole vaguely, but I don't remember actually participating in it - though of course that doesn't mean I didn't. I didn't remember the Shipfests at all until I thought for a minute, and NOW, yes, I remember. If it's what I'm thinking it is. For example, I believe there was a very provocative story entitled something like 'Huinesoron's Very Odd Day'?
If I was behind the first one, oh dear. Well, I hereby offer my most humble apologies. XD
... there were no less than three Odd Day stories, with, uh, 'shenanighans' involving virtually everyone on the Board (and a fair few agents). It was... quite epic.
What would be fantastic would be if you could talk about the Old Chat - the roleplays, and whatever else took place there. (Actually, given what I've heard about that place... not everything that happened there, please). So far I don't think anyone else was even here when it existed...
hS
No kidding? You mean that chat that was around back in like '04? NO ONE else was here when it existed?! I know you were here, did you never enter the chat? Wise choice. :P
Though as a footnote to that, to preserve my own reputation (cough), I don't remember anything totally depraved ever going on there. A lot of silliness and subtext, but I think it was mostly PG-13. o_O'
I found the roleplay I was talking about. It's entirely mad and the only person going by their actual screenname (as opposed to an LotR character's name) is Jon, so I'm not going to bother posting it. I can't even remember who the participants really were.
I'm actually planning a text archive to go with the film, for all those bits and pieces that don't get read out. That would be a perfect addition to the whole thing.
There's a few people around who were here when the chat was up, but none of them have replied to this thread. :P I went in occasionally - the 'Lord of the Things' RP on AW's site features me as Gandalf the Grey - but didn't often enjoy it. I don't go into the new one, either. :P
(You have a reputation? Where on earth did you steal that from?)
hS
You asked for it. But it makes very little sense, because I only actually printed out part of it, so there's not really a beginning or an end. I did provide a small explanation: Eldarion has decided he wants to marry men, Aragorn is not happy about this, Elrohir has gone insane and it egging Eldarion on, Jon is an Aragorn imposter. Hmm... yep.
Eldarion: I only like Men, and maybe an elf here or there.
Aragorn: WOMEN! ELVES!
Elrohir: SPIDERS!
Jon: *would call for a medic, if only was not unconscious*
Elrohir: LIONS!
Eldarion: Dad, 'Men' is a race. :-P
Aragorn: Elrohir!
Elrohir: TIGERS!
Arwen: (ok, I go away for two minutes and now I'm totally lost)
Elrohir: BEARS!
Aragorn: Alright then, have fun with the Rohirrim women!
Agent Talia: Oh my
Eldarion: Dad's mad at me because I want to shag the Rohirrim.
Elrohir: RIDERS!
Eldarion: I will have fun with the Rohirrim women.
Aragorn: No, I just don't want you to shag the men
Elrohir: MEN!
Eldarion: :)
Aragorn: Good son
Elrohir: Men.
Jon: (I disguised myself badly as Aragorn, and tried to corrupt Elrohir just as Aragorn got back. :P)
Eldarion: *Looks innocent*
Aragorn: Have grandchildren!
Elrohir: (I've gone from weepy to Bagenders!Frodo to nearly Bursar material)
Jon: *wakes up* Children with the Witch King! I'm sure we can find a way to revive him.
Elrohir: With MEN!
Eldarion: I'll have fun with the women... and the men- What?! Nothing! *Runs*
Eldarion: *Blinks*
Aragorn: ..
Aragorn: Eldarion...
Elrohir: *nodds happily* Good nephew. Men.
Eldarion: Witch Kings really aren't my thing.
Eldarion: Yes, Father?
Aragorn: ONLY women..
Eldarion: Why, Father?
Jon: Sure they are, son.
Elrohir: ONLY male women, he means.
Eldarion: (LMAO, Elrohir. XD)
Aragorn: Because you will be king someday!
Eldarion: So?
Elrohir: You are DA KIG!
Aragorn: You need a Queen!
Jon: No, because I plan on living forever.
Eldarion: I'll have a Queen.
Elrohir: A male Queen!
Aragorn: And not that kind of queen!
Elrohir: A Drag Queen!
Agent Talia: Drag queen... oh dear
Eldarion: *Sporfle*
Aragorn: *handforhead*
Eldarion: Dad, I want Legolas to be my Queen. XD
Elrohir: Good Eldarion.
Jon: You can't have him. He's mine, son.
Elrohir: Good choice.
Elladan: Hey, sorry, but I have to go. Bye!
Aragorn: ...ARWEN!
Elrohir: Bye.
Eldarion: Back off, Jon.
Elrohir: Arwen?
Aragorn: Bye Elladan...
Jon: Ok...
Eldarion: Legolas only has eyes for me.
Aragorn: Yes, Arwen
Elrohir: FROGS!
Jon: My son hates me. ;;
Aragorn: Legolas is currently surrounded by fangirls
Elrohir: R-r-r-r-r-
Eldarion: I'll kill the fangirls for him.
Aragorn: If you can get past the fangirls I'll let you marry Legolas AND a woman.
Eldarion: COOL!
Elrohir: *nods happily and gives Eldarion a bow*
Agent Talia: Oh goodness
Elrohir: A male woman.
Aragorn: BUT YOU MUCH MARRY A WOMAN!
Elrohir: A MALE woman.
Eldarion: If I kill all the fangirls, can I marry Legolas, a woman, AND a man?!
Aragorn: A WOMAN WOMAN!
Elrohir: MALE woman!
Jon: Don't forget the Witch King!
Elrohir: SPIDER!
Aragorn: No, just Legolas and a woman who can reproduce.
Eldarion: NOT the Witch King. >.
Elrohir: MALE woman.
Eldarion: *Pouts* Father, I want Legolas, a man, and a woman.
Jon: Oh, come one. He's really not that bad.
Elrohir: *nods* HOBBIT!
Aragorn: *sighs* I can't win...
Eldarion: The Witch King's dead, Elboron's mum killed him.
Elrohir: BILBO!
Aragorn: Alright! As long as you have a woman to make heirs, I'm good.
Eldarion: Yay!
Elrohir: Bilbo!
Jon: Who writes history, me - the king - or Elboron's mum - a crossdresser?
Eldarion: Bilbo's too old, and I don't like hobbits... too short.
Eldarion: Elboron's mum. ^^
Aragorn: I'm the king! You are an imposter!
Elrohir: ...Pippin.
Aragorn: (Mm.../I/ want Pippin...)
Jon: No I'm not! Look at this /obviously real/ stubble!
Eldarion: (lol)
Elrohir: PIPPIN!
Eldarion: I'm going to marry Elboron.
Aragorn: ...
Arwen: (*sighs* I'm so tired, I can't keep up... I'll have to take a rain check on this)
Eldarion: (lmao..)
Elrohir: *nods happily* ELZORO!
Aragorn: *blinks, takes medication*
Jon: Only if you can produce an heir for me.
Arwen: wait... did my son just say he's marrying a MAN?
Aragorn: ME!
Elrohir: (Bye)
Eldarion: You're not my father, Jon.
Eldarion: Yes, do you have a problem with that, Dad?
Aragorn: (Bye?)
Jon: I'm not? But I've got stubble... And greasy hair.
Elrohir: (Hi?)
Aragorn: (...)
Eldarion: Dad has clean hair now that he's king.
Aragorn: Nope! *grins* Not anymore!
Eldarion: Nice try.
Elrohir: LEGOLAS! ELZORO! PIPPIN! MALE WOMAN!
Arwen: Honey, you know your father and I iwill always love you... but... this is rather a shock... and Aragorn, you will shower by the end of the day or no more cupboard time for /you/!
Eldarion: *Stares at Elrohir blankly*
Agent Talia ...>:(
Aragorn: As long as you've got heirs, I'm good!
Eldarion: You'll have plenty of heirs, calm down.
Aragorn: I'm clean!
Elrohir: Legolas, Elboron, Pippin, male woman.
Aragorn: It's the imposter that's not!
Jon: Why do you get all the heirs? *jealous*
Aragorn: And woman
Eldarion: What about a woman?
Aragorn: You need at least one!
Elrohir: *nods* Legolas, Elboron, Pippin, male woman, woman woman.
Jon: I'm sorry Arwen. I'll bath later. Cupboard time now?
Arwen: ... Oo?
Aragorn: *hugs Arwen*
Eldarion: Ok! I TOLD you I'd marry a woman and make plenty of babies!
Eldarion: OK?!
Elrohir: FIVE!
Aragorn: Good, I'm happy then!
Eldarion: ...Five. Sure.
Elrohir: HUNDRED!
Eldarion: ...
Jon: Why don't you ever try to please me? ;;
Eldarion: I don't think so.
Elrohir: FIVE!
Eldarion: Because you're not my father, Jon, you're an imposter.
Arwen: Elrohir, will you kindly stop shouting? Being mortal has not affected my sensitive ears.
Eldarion: Yes, five, sure.
Elrohir: hundred?
Eldarion: *Rolls eyes* Not my problem, mom.
Eldarion: NOT HUNDRED!!!!!
Eldarion: --'
Aragorn: Let's go to the room that Galadriel gave us! *picks up Arwen, goes into room*
Jon: Thousand. You never know /when/ a Great War will pop up and kill most of my heirs.
Elrohir: HUNDRED!!!!!
Elrohir: FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND!!!!!
Eldarion: Iluvatar...
Eldarion: *Hits Elrohir over the head with a brick*
Elrohir: *falls down*
Elrohir: xx
Jon: ...I don't know, Elrohir. If he has five hundred thousand, I'll have trouble putting them all through college.
Elrohir: *wakes up*
Elrohir: Five hundred thousand, half girls.
Eldarion: I'm not having five hundred thousand kids. >.
Aragorn: *runs out with sword* KILL THE IMPOSTER!
Elrohir: Busy. Start early.
Eldarion: How the heck would I do that with one elf, one man, and one woman?!
Aragorn: *chases Jon*
Jon: No, no... How about we come to an agreement? *runs away*
Elrohir: Mpreg?
Eldarion: Hmm... :-P
Aragorn: *slashy slash* KILL!
Jon: Maybe you can recognize me as your sexier, evil twin?
Eldarion: Dad, Legolas is pregnant! XD
Elrohir: *grins*
Aragorn: *suddenly, the medication has sent Aragorn spiraling out of character*
Elrohir: Good job, nephew. Congratulations.
Eldarion: Thanks, Uncle! ^^
Elrohir: Twins?
Aragorn: *blinks* That's great son!
Aragorn: *keeps chasing*
Eldarion: Quintuplets!
Jon: Good job, son! *still running*
Eldarion: (lol!)
Elrohir: ^^ Congratulations!
Aragorn: *striks Jon*
Aragorn: Mwehehehehehehe
Elrohir: *watches Aragorn strik in amazement*
. . . The End.
(How could you question my reputation? Of course I have a reputation, much like my compatriots the sons of Feanor had 'reputations'.)
...for sharing it, and for having printed it out in the first place! I was laughing all the way through :D
...someone should do a dramatic reading for the documentary...if anyone can manage not to laugh hysterically all the way through, that is.
~DF
This will go in the documentation for sure.
(I wouldn't say you lot had a 'reputation' - more of a 'giant neon sign warning everyone to run far, far away before the Feanorians come any closer'...)
hS
Hug a Feanorian!!! ;D
Did you know there's a song by Nightwish called "The Kinslayer"? It's actually about something else, but the title seemed appropriate ;-)
Also, Nightwish stuff is always awesome. *has just shamelessly plugged favorite band*
...er, as long as I have a guarantee that no Feanorian will kill, maim, or in any way injure me should I take part in the Hug-a-Feanorian Day activities. Feanorians are rather dangerous, you know.
~DF
...they have been bribed with shinies! Of course, if you insult them, steal their shiny things, or otherwise annoy them, you will be marked down as a suicide. You have been duly warned :-P
Don't worry, I know better than to take the Feanorians' shinies. No matter how shiny they are, I shall resist. I know full well what happens if I don't! (An Oath, three Kinslayings, and a war that...well...doesn't actually kill me, but gets me imprisoned). And insulting...another big no. As for annoying...well, most people tend to think I'm nice, so hopefully there won't be a problem there...
(But yes, that's most definitely suicide. Extremely. Not high on my list of things to do.)
...I just had this mental image of Agent Dawn losing what self-control she has and glomping Feanorians while they're still dazed from the Sue she's just killed. Hopefully, that daze will last long enough to keep her from getting killed...
~DawnFire
But one would hope there'd be some not-quite-as-dangerous people around for her to glomp. Flying glomps and general hyperness were what I had in mind under "otherwise annoy", I never meant to imply you weren't nice. Brief hugs are fine, flying glomps are not. Except, possibly, if you're Elros or Elrond and the Feanorian in question is Maglor. It did say a great love grew between them, so glomps may be forgiveable :)
Bit of a late response, but I'm happy to do anything that involves writing--as in, I'd rather not do audio or video, but I'm happy to answer questions or write things down or whatever.
Actually, something I could do that could be interesting (I think) to see in a documentary like this--well, I'll explain.
I feel that I owe a lot to the PPC. This is something I've said before, but it's true; I really do owe so much of what I know about writing interesting, relatable characters and plots to the PPC (and to OFUM and various MSTs, and Deleterius--basically, I owe a lot to the Canon Protection Initiative in general, and that's something I can talk about). I can also talk about what it's like to have found the PPC so long ago (ok, about 4 or 5 years ago, but I've come a long way since then) and what it's like to see it still going so strong. Not sure if that's exactly what you want for this documentary, but it could be interesting to talk about the PPC's influence on young writers, and on people's lives in general.
And, of course, if that doesn't fit into this documentary's theme, I'm happy to answer questions someone writes for me.
Side point: I have a question/clarification for you, hS, but I don't think you've seen it. It's actually at the very bottom of the page right now, so I thought I'd better draw your attention to it before it disappears to the previous page, since I really would like an answer. Could you take a look?
Thanks,
~DawnFire
It's absolutely fine for you to write something for someone else to read - I knew going in that there'd be people unwilling/able to record anything. And someone to talk about the impact of the PPC/CPI on young writers would be fantastic - it seems like something that would go either at the beginning or the very end, since it doesn't have a neat slot in the timeline.
Probably the latter, in fact. I've mentioned a couple of times the three questions I'd like to ask everyone (How'd you get here, why'd you stay, and what's changed), and your suggestion would make a nice closer for that.
(And I... well, 'answered' may be a little bit strong to describe what I did to your question)
hS
...which was when it had two replies...yeah, it's a bit late :)
Oh, good. I mean, I like reading stuff aloud, I'm just a little iffy about putting it out on the internet, and I also technically just have the microphone in my laptop for recording equipment, so it's doubtful that anything I recorded would be all that clear anyway.
Really? Cool :) And trust me, I can go on for a while. Or for a slightly shorter while, if that's what's necessary. But basically, I'm pretty sure I found the PPC at a time when I was at the tail end of growing out of being a mild Suethor (I know, horrifying--you should see some of the chats I unearthed recently), and I really do think it helped me grow as a writer. And, of course, it entertained me immensely, so that was a bonus. I can also talk about what led me to actually say hello on the Board, and about what's changed between my initial encounters with the CPI/PPC and now--there was a year or two where the most contact I had with the CPI in general was using Mary-Sue Litmus Tests and reading the occasional related article. Whatever works; I like to talk, and I like to write, and in this case, they go together.
(Well, my brain has...er, responded is a bit too mild a word. Actually, I have written a response to your answer {which I was very pleased--and excited--to get}; it should be posted as soon as I get a chance to proofread it. I do hope you know what you've started; my brain took the idea and ran away with it, cackling madly, and in the next hour I ended up with about 1,000 words worth of ideas. My ideas keep snowballing lately...Then again, for the most part, that's a good thing.)
(My planned interludes just get crazier and crazier...oh, well. Hopefully that means they'll be fun to read. If nothing else, they'll be fun to write.)
~DF
Interviewing, acting as a voice for other people's contributions and anything you order me to do ,I can do it! :)
At the moment it's looking like there'll be a handful of questions for everyone to answer (How did you find the PPC? Why did you decide to stay? How have things changed since you joined/How did things change between you joining and you leaving? ... and one other which I won't mention - spoilers), and then hopefully everyone can do a piece on something specific. So, looking over the list... if you came here from TVTropes (lots of people did), that's still there to talk about... or if you use the wiki a lot... or if you've been involved in any roleplays here?
Then of course there's a lot of things you can read and comment on even if you weren't here when they happened - it's up to you.
Any thoughts?
hS
Hi, hS! *Waves.* Long time, no see, I guess... I just got a nostalgia hit and thought I'd drop back in.
I know I've been gone for ... a considerable period of time ... but I'd be willing to talk about the time I was around and what it was like being in the community back then, if you like.
You were actually one of the people I was going to try and look up and pester interview, so it's great to see you back by yourself.
Since this thread is rather lacking in specifics so far, I'm going to start trying to pin some down, so:
In addition to a general thingy about The Community Of Your Day, would you be willing to describe/be interviewed about the Multiverse Monitor? Or, indeed, anything else specific - that one just springs to mind for-some-reason-can't-imagine-why.
hS
How about the Snowball Fights? As I recall, those were madcap hilarity, especially the first one. (And accidental innuendos, for some reason...)
... about five minutes after I replied the first time. :P
If you can magic up something to say about the Snowfight, that would be awesome! I linked the prose version somewhere up there (2005, maybe?), so if you need to reread, it's there for the asking...
hS
Well, the Multiverse Monitor was my major contribution, apart from a lot of chattering. *Grins.*
I think I can hang a date on the IRC, with a little GTalk-archiving, and I'd be happy to do an audio or video thing on it!
If you could do a specific piece on the IRC, it would really help, since it is of course one of the major components of the community.
hS
I was thinking a brief (and tactful) history, emphasis on the community and silliness aspects. Dann says he is also willing to collaborate - so we will be in touch!
Although the Board usually only sees the things that would need 'tactfully' not mentioning, I'm pretty sure there's heaps of community/silliness going on over there, so hopefully it won't even be too difficult for you!
hS
I'm willing to do any vocals as desired, though I'd rather not do video of myself on the grounds that I am rarely photogenic enough. :P So yeah, consider me a freelancing voice actress. Interviews, readings, etc. :D
I can provide readings of things, but only audio. I'll also do some interviews if somebody else gives me questions! Or I suppose, if you give me some sort of directions, I could think up some questions on my own? I'd really love to contribute, even if I'm technically not a full member yet (Permission an' all that).
Several of our oldest members - such as BeautyID, who wrote the poem at the top of the Constitution - never had Permission. If anyone's been giving you the idea that you need Permission to be considered a full member, they're wildly wrong.
I think it'd be fantastic to have a 'What the PPC is like for people just joining'-type piece from you, and also... well, anything else. Is there anything on the list which you've read or had experience with now, even though it was made a long time ago?
hS
If you can find something for me to do. :)
I gotta warn you though, though I found the ToS and OFUM several years ago, I never went past that until a couple months ago, so I can't really help out with the timeline or incidences that happen around here.
I'd be happy to help out with questions, and though I'm not the best artist, I could try my hand at providing images, and I could be a voice too. :)
There's obviously a fair few things on there you have to have experienced (the Gatherings, the Badfic Contest), but there's also loads you can talk about even if you've only run into them since. The Reorganisation, for instance, or the Anniversary Party and Invasions. Heck, something like Tungsten_Monk's troll dissection could be discussed by anyone, to reflect on how it shows the PPC's personality as it were.
And, of course, OFUM itself is on the list... so, any thoughts?
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Since I wasn't on the boards at the time I didn't get to experience this side of things, but I do remember coming across the Badfic contest the first time I read through OFUM, probably shortly after it finished, and it was posted with the rest of the stuff. It was a scream! XD
I'll definitely get some thoughts together for you on OFUM, and I'll have a read through the dissection and re-org/party/invasions too :)
I'd like to do a little piece about how I found and came to join the PPC, if I may! I'll even do it video style, now that I finally have the means to record videos! (That said, any specific video format you're looking for, or does it matter? I'm thinking file types here - like video.example or something.)
And I'd be willing to write questions or do quick (very quick) sketches for anyone who would like their real face to remain a mystery. :D
We always need people's personal perspectives. Are there any other things on the list you know enough about to want to talk about? Actually, and I forgot to put this on there, I'm wondering if the Postcard Exchange might not be worth adding to 2012... remember that?
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(I had to.)
Well, I know the Original Series pretty much as well as I know most Mother Goose stories, and I've read Crashing Down (although that's not on the list, or else I'm not seeing the link to it...) And I have a few memorable mishaps from my early days of editing the Wiki... ^///^;
We should definitely add the Postcard Exchange! That was so much fun (once I found a postcard)!
... is sort of subsumed in The Reorganisation, the former being the sequel to the later. You have read Reorg... right? :P
Okay! So I'll put you down to talk about the Postcard Exchange, yes?
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I'm kind of half-wondering if that wasn't a partial stab in my direction...
That said, it would take all of one look at the wiki to see my ugly mug anyhow, having finally made myself a profile page, but all the same, I'd much rather prefer to just send in a written thing and just pray whoever voices for me (because my voice is garbage on recording devices) doesn't decide to voice me in a horribly Victorian English noblewoman's voice.
Actually, that'd be hilarious. XD
Despite the way I behave IRL, you'd be surprised how little I actually think of you when making snarky comments. Also, I was being sincere and generous, not snarky and jerkish.
My bad. Appatently I was implying jerk/snark.
And apparently I can't type apparently correctly half the time.
Okay, so apologies everywhere.
Eh, I responded a bit more sharply to it either way (in my initial response). So apologies all around.
That said, OBJECTION. What does appatently even mean? My Internet's spellchecker doesn't recognize it as a word!
It's not a word.
It's a bullhonkey spelling my phone decided to recognize as a substitute for apparently.
Par for the course with this junker...
I was just saying that I fall into the "will never reveal my face online" category.
99.9% of the time.
-slams desk- Yes you were! That is a blatant contradiction in your testimony, Mr. SC!
*Points dramatically* I have already rectified the issues with my testimony! Your argument is void, prosecutor KittyNoodles!
I never said I was a prosecutor! I merely chose not to point! What do you say to THAT, phony lawyer?!
You never denied it, either! And who says you HAD to point? Godot never points!
Gesturing with your coffee cup counts as pointing! And in any event, YOUR ARGUMENT WORKED AGAINST YOU! I was trying to argue that not pointing did not mean I was taking the prosecutor's role, and your argument just made it sound as though pointing would have meant I was being the prosecutor!
That's right... You just strengthened my point!
That...
What?
AHA! So you admit to counterarguing your own argument, eh, Mr. SC?
I have not had enough coffee for this, court is in recess...
You seem to be exited for this project, and seem to have really thought it out. I cannot provide much information for you, however, I would be happy to provide readings of either others questions/answers, and anything else that you could need read. I am interested in acting or voice acting as a potential career (though likely just a hobby), and am currently trying to expand my speaking range and quality, so I would be more than happy to assist in this department.
I can only think of a couple little things that could be added. One is a section on our little quirks, such as gift giving to new members and the random role plays we do. I know this is a 'personal' story, but the PPC has so many little nuances to it, that there should be a specific time slot dedicated to it.
Another is having little interludes from the fictional world. When the person speaks, he/she could have their agents come in and say some things about their creator, only to be neralized of the fact they have a creator at the end. I just think having little moments that have to do with the in-univerce PPC would be nice, and funny of corse. Hey, how about have the Sunflower Official do the narration in-between moments from the community. I, being male, would be more than happy to provide the voice for our supreme overlo-I mean, generous Official.
I don't know what else to say, other than if you could get Jay and Acacia, Miss Cam, and other founding members to provide some of their thoughts, that would be awesome. Don't know how one would get in contact with them though...
Good luck with the documentary!
1/ The little quirks: my original thoughts on this, though I managed to lose them somewhere in between, was that we could have a handful of people talking about how they found the PPC, what happened when they joined, etc, in the appropriate slot in the timeline. You could volunteer for that! The roleplays and other games are mostly mentioned by name on one of their early appearances (Fill the Plothole, Things I Am Not Allowed To Do, the Snowfight and Fifth Anniversary, the Mary-Sue Invasion...)
2/ Well, the narration is being done by Agent Dafydd, because he's had practice, and I'm planning on trying to interview the team at Radio Nutmeg (which should be on the timeline for September 2008). And of course if anyone wants to do something tie-in-y in the film, they're more than welcome.
3/ I will be trying to hunt down a bunch of oldbies. First, though, I need to know there'll be enough to build on... hintsubtlehint...
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It says on the wiki that you are a permission giver, and I have been waiting a while for a response to my permission request. If you would not mind looking over it, or directing one of the other permission givers to the request, I would be so grateful. The request is right here: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=199610;article=238626;title=PPC%20Posting%20Board
If you see this, thanks.
But if I can, I'll try to get together a recording of how I got into the PPC, because I'm somewhat of an oldbie so yeah.
In the PPC, I mean, the so-called 'real world' is irrelevant here. :P
I'm trying to remember just when you joined, but drawing something of a blank... I do know you've spent a fair amount of time playing around with the Mary-Sue Factories, so in addition to your personal piece, would you like to discuss them, as part of the wider Reorganisation/Crashing Down phenomenon, and how they've affected your writing? Because I think the way you've picked the Factories up and run (and run and run) with them is one of the things that makes the PPC community special - sharing and expanding ideas.
Alternately (or additionally!), there's the Badfic Contest sitting up there somewhere for someone to talk about...
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I suppose I could talk about playing around with Mary Sue Factories, yeah, and the Badfic contests too (considering I was the first one to write goodfic for the badfic contest).
Lemme see what I can conjure up.
On the recording and photogenic parts.
I sound like I wear polka-dot bow ties and suspenders on camera, and look like a dork with a mousse-stash.
Which, mind you, I am a dork with a mousse-stash.
BUT I DO NOT WEAR BOW TIES OR SUSPENDERS.
Bow ties ARE cool. Deal with it.
Or, geez, I've even seen a plaid one.