Subject: Bummer, didn't re-read well enough.
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Posted on: 2015-08-18 17:40:00 UTC
*catches mini-Agent Nikki CHerrifower*
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New interlude! (Spoilers for Little Miss Mary) by
on 2015-08-18 14:11:00 UTC
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Presenting "Snippets of Gallifrey", which shows a little bit of what the Aviator got up to while she was on the run.
Just remember, guys, use the spoiler tag. Enjoy! -
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Really?! You give us hope, only to leave us with a cliffhanger?! I don't know whether to call you a genius or a troll.
That aside, it was a pretty interesting interlude. Here's hoping that the Narrative Laws have some mercy on poor Rina/Aviator/[long Gallifreyan name that I dare not try to type]!
A few errors, though:
1) Once outside, she made her way to the alley several streets away where she had parked her TARDIS.
There's a comma missing before "where."
2) She was still coughing up artron energy, but she was stabilized enough Silvan had let her go to her own bedroom.
Missing word: "she was stabilized enough that Silvan had let her go to her own bedroom." -
It's like some blend of an interlude and a fanfic. by
on 2015-08-20 05:11:00 UTC
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What do I look like, Moffat's successor? Oh no.
I am much worse than that.
I am the stuff of Moffat's nightmares.
Joking aside, I'm glad you liked it. Errors are now fixed, and as for the Aviator's ultimate fate...
Well, I think everyone can infer what happened next. -
To: Sunflower Official - c.c. Board of Department Heads by
on 2015-08-18 17:37:00 UTC
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It has come to my attention that two of Corolla's friends, Agents Rina Dives and Zeb, got assigned a Legendary to mission on their own when Rina wasn't in the condition to complete the mission even if they had backup.
I have no idea of how you idiotic sunflora thought it could end any differently that the way it did: Agent Dives SIA and possibly MIA and Zeb barely escaping death and currently in... whatever that saving-from-otherwise-certain-death-vat that thing is.
I am very appalled of the stance of you and your colleagues about Agents' wellbeing, and I am fully expecting a rescue team to be dispacted to rescue Agent Dives and give her proper treatment for her mental state. I, Former Agent Nikki CHerrifower and Agent Corolla are volunteering to partecipate.
If you ignore the matter, then you will be expecting a daisycutter in your office.
Former Agent Sergio Turbo, Department of Floaters, Special Operations Division, Knight's Grand Cross of the Order of the Mochi.
P.S. If it wasn't clear enough, for "daisycutter" I meant a fuel-air explosive bomb. You've been warned. I'm sick of this s[CENSORED], and I have no intention of risking the same to happen to Corolla or anyone else.
[So... The commenting about the interlude was made in the document's chat and... well, I might have instigated a riot against the Flowers there...] -
To... well, everyone reached by Sergio's message. by
on 2015-08-19 14:51:00 UTC
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I apologize for my ex-partner's letter. Shouldn't have told him what happened, he threw a tantrum and wrote the letter impulsively. He's already calmed down, and he's kinda sorry for acting on anger. He also promised he won't carry on his threat, and in fact I doubt he would even be able to do something this evil. (Still couldn't get him to apologize fro that though - keeps saying he resigned for a reason)
So please please don't antagonize him? Nikki and I are doing our best to keep him from doing anything rash, and some of the answers he received are kinda getting on his nerves. Well, he did need the well-placed dopeslap they are, but... Oh, I'm not good at this kind of stuff.
Still, he has a point. He kinda took it personal due to something that happened before he was recruited - not saying more 'cause it's, well, his call if he wants to tell - and hearing of what happened to my friends kinda got him, but I do agree that sending that Legendary to them was out-of-line and yes, I know that some of you won't agree. I don't care.
Now excuse me, but I've got a rather desperate Intern Alex Dives here and I have to find a way to explain to him that her sister is considered a criminal without making him more broken than he already is. Anyone telling that to his face is going to get their console's mission alert set to the Rick Roll song. Permanently.
Agent Corolla, Department of Sufficiently Advanced Technology.
[So... nothing like having my old ex-self-insert throw a tantrum to spark an interesting RP. I sparked the Blackout in a similar way, and I am not sorry.] -
[Dang, I kinda messed up Agent!Sergio's letter] by
on 2015-08-19 15:37:00 UTC
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[It was a bit too aggressive, wasn't it? Maybe should've have had Corolla bring out the issue from the start, as she got it better and did indeed know Rina personally.
Agent!Sergio had his reasons for going "THAT IDIOT SUNFLOWER", a couple still spoilers (my mistake here), especially out of the fear that the same could happen to Corolla or any other of the friends he made in the PPC if he didn't take the matter in his own hands, but going this far is too far for him.
So, thoughts on this poor Boarder's mishap? I think I can learn something from this] -
((Some thoughtses.)) by
on 2015-08-19 15:48:00 UTC
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((-- ah, drop the brackets.))
1/ There will always be characters who disagree. If Agent Sergio had said 'I think this was a bit sub-par on behalf of the Flowers, what what? Perhaps a politely-worded letter of complaint should be worked up'... Dafydd would still have given much the same response. ;)
2/ Equally, you're always going to have agents who think the Flowers are justified in whatever they do, so don't try to get EVERYONE on your side. To some extent, you/he overstated the situation in an effort to make more people go 'gasp how terrible' - someone pointed out that they did actually complete the mission, so Sergio's claim that they couldn't was patently wrong. ^^
3/ If you want to get Boarders to make something in-universe happen... don't make it too dramatic. People are far more likely to get on board with, say, a protest outside the SO's office, than a demand that they start bombing the Flowers. Tune it right, and you can make something in-universe happen, which is always fun.
4/ Keep an eye on your characters! I've recently had to retcon most of Mortic's interactions with Scapegrace's DW agents, because he wandered out of character and into self-parody. Don't let a single note - 'Sergio doesn't trust the Flowers' - drown out the rest of what makes up the character. That's... probably one of the most important skills a writer can learn.
5/ Sorry, who started the Blackout? I seem to recall the Board being blacked out having something to do with it... ^~
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Thank you. by
on 2015-08-19 16:04:00 UTC
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1) and 2) That's for sure. Never imagined a 100% revolt against the Flowers, 'cause that isn't healty for the PPC.
3) The protest outside the SO office was indeed the plan - as those who were in yesterday's chat can testimony. Agent!Sergio's letter was supposed to be the spark - but instead of a spark I wrote an explosion.
4) Yeah, one of the reason I went "What have I done" is because, with a cooler mind, I realized that this is too far - probably right into Chaotic Evil when the character is actually between Chaotic Good and Neutral Good. I let my emotions about LMM get the better of me - that is something I have to learn from, too.
5) But if I didn't start the RP with my Agents' message to DoSAT there would've been no Blackout interlude, right?... Right?. -
(STORY PLUG) So, a certain Former Agent apologizes... by
on 2015-08-19 20:58:00 UTC
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iY1iEQbwOwwbwC0ITAIKxPPdXGrPoHbCgCWoA4ah9zo/pub
Everything can be fixed by a squeaky rubber mallet.
(Might still contain some error - I kinda wanted to post it today.) -
To: Former Agent Turbo by
on 2015-08-19 14:39:00 UTC
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Before you ask, I am out of the bacta tank with (mostly) regrown skin, and Medical is working on grafts for what the tank was unable to finish. Thank you for your concern period backup um delete? AUGH, forget it.
My apologies for that mess, I am stuck dictating this as I'm currently bedridden and not able to move much of anything right now.
Oh, so you just stop talking to get the period, okay. Backup. Backup! Delete!
Augh, again, I am sorry.
Moving on to the main part of your message, I didn't see anyone raising a stink over the Flowers' treatment of agents when Rina and I were sent into Rose Potter and Rina—still a child by human standards—was essentially killed. Sure, everyone was all 'ooh, look at the new Time Lord!' but not one of you raised any objections to sending her and myself (then a rookie agent barely into my first week) into a six-part Legendary with no backup, that culminated in my partner getting hit with a puncturing curse that left her entrails all over the floor, then subsequently having to regenerate because our primary remote activator had been broken in the fight with Rose and I would have been unable to get her to Medical in time to save her.
But no. Now, because Rina has snapped, and stolen a TARDIS, suddenly everyone is interested in our case. Yes, I realized she was starting to go insane, and maybe if I'd been more adamant about her going to FicPsych, none of this would have happened. But while I am not entirely blameless, from things I picked up on, she was never quite stable to begin with, I don't think. She alluded to being locked up in a mental hospital once before and when I questioned her further on the subject, she became hostile and refused to say any more on the matter. As best I can figure, it was not a pleasant experience for her and one she was not eager to repeat.
Her refusal to go to FicPsych was ultimately her decision, and while—while it is reg-grettable [sobbing noises]
No, no, delete that, delete that!
...
While it is regrettable, and I miss her a lot... There is nothing we can do, I'm afraid, but hope she comes back. Emiranlanoamar taught her well, possibly too well. From what I understand, she's beyond tracking now.
As for your threat against the Flowers, I am quite frankly appalled that you would go to such extreme lengths, especially for someone you don't even know. Perhaps you should seek assistance at FicPsych so you don't end up like my partner.
Yours,
Agent Zeb, DMS -
To: Former Agent Turbo by
on 2015-08-19 07:41:00 UTC
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Oh, wah wah wah.
So some agents took on a Legendary Badfic and had a bad time of it, did they? And what, exactly, about the word 'Legendary' made you think that wouldn't happen?
I don't remember anyone kicking up a fuss when I was KILLED in a Legendary Badfic, when my partner had to DIVE INTO MANDOS TO GET ME BACK.
So quit whinging.
~Dafydd Illian, ex-DOGA
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To: Former-Agent Dafydd Illian by
on 2015-08-19 19:36:00 UTC
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Agent Dives, for all her faults (please see the attached document for a comprehensive list), is a Time Lord of no small standing. She was also in no way suitable for a mission of that magnitude, due to issues commented on in Former-Agent Turbo's original letter. That these issues were of her own making is immaterial; she was assigned this mission incorrectly, and I would urge the Continuity Council in the strongest terms to mount our own rescue and try to help her, because she is a Time Lord. Now and forever.
Agent Dives also died on a mission to a Legendary Badfic -- indeed, that is how she became a Time Lord in the first place. Her partner, noted zap cat Agent Zeb, acted to bring her back to life with the quick wit one would expect of a veteran agent; the Legendary in question, the Rose Potter hexology, was Agent Zeb's second mission.
Finally, and this is merely conjecture on my part: Rina Dives was worth saving.
You?
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((Shall I chalk this up...)) by
on 2015-08-20 07:23:00 UTC
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((... as yet another 'Scapegrace's characters all hate mine'? ^_~))
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((Oh, wow, the Notary doesn't like someone?)) by
on 2015-08-20 11:49:00 UTC
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((Well, stone the crows. That's never happened before. =] ))
((Also the image of Maglor being slapped down by a nasally-voiced bureaucrat was too good to pass up, in my opinion, but yeah.))
((I've got nothing further to add at this point.))
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(('Slapped down'?)) by
on 2015-08-20 12:45:00 UTC
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((If Dafydd was interested in replying - which he ain't - his comments would start with: 'Time Lords? Yawn. Wake me up when you hit ten thousand years old, maybe then you'll be worth talking to.'))
((The reason he's not replying is probably obvious at that point. ;))) ((
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((Except... no.)) by
on 2015-08-20 13:42:00 UTC
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((Time Lord society has been around longer than Maglor's species has been a species. What's that quote? "Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt." Of course, ten million years is a little easier to achieve when you have complete mastery over time and its much-vaunted relative dimensions, but the point still stands, I think.))
((Besides, by Gallifreyan standards, the Noldorin civilisation... isn't. I know you seem to think that they wandered around with laser rifles and starships for some reason, but even accepting that outside possibility, they're backwoods hicks at best. Also, calling your barely post-feudal society "Those With Knowledge" is guaran-bloody-teed to make any Time Lord in the vicinity laugh themselves sick. Just sayin'. =] ))
((Finally - and I want to make this clear - this really isn't me having a go at you. It's just, well, Time Lords OP nerf nao, and Notary's one of the single snidest little turds working for the PPC. She'd point it out. And she'll defend her species to the hilt, because as far as she's concerned there's nothing else worth being. Not even a Noldor. =] )) -
Yeah, but... by
on 2015-08-20 13:56:00 UTC
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... he meant her personally. ^~ This isn't Noldorin arrogance you're facing: it's Feanorian arrogance, and that's a whole different ballgame.
Besides, canonically, Middle-earth was created by a boy and his dog in the Whoniverse. ^^ So, y'know, there's that.
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Ah, yes, the Feanorians. by
on 2015-08-20 14:27:00 UTC
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Or, as Tree describes them, "a bunch of slack-jawed, tree-violating barbarians who once saw a shiny thing and liked it a little too much". When you combine total arrogance with a deep, deep well of self-loathing, you get her. She's horrible to a cartoonish degree, but she has an unfortunate tendency to win arguments like purely via her particular brand of charisn'tma, and she will not suffer her speciesmate to be derided by some pointy-eared catgut-botherer from a backwater planet so parochial it makes the arse-end of nowhere look like the height of urbane cosmopolitanism.
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If by 'particular brand of charisn'tma'... by
on 2015-08-20 14:34:00 UTC
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... you mean 'she stuffs every line so full of unpleasantness that no-one wants to continue the conversation with her', then you're demonstrating that very nicely. ^_~
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By which I mean: by
on 2015-08-20 14:45:00 UTC
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It's all very well having a character who's scathing and insulting towards other characters. Dafydd would probably be mortally offended. But... I'm not, and I don't have much fun coming up with in-character reactions to flames. Much like Sergio's 'we must raze the Flowers to the ground!' message, it's possible to do something which would have a certain in-universe effect... which never happens, because the authors aren't interested in doing that.
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See, that's kind of what I love about agents. by
on 2015-08-20 15:07:00 UTC
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The fact that they can spit such vitriol at each other all the time. Maybe I should have written a '90s sitcom, Iunno, but the opportunities for clever wordplay and cleverer insults are ones it hurts to pass up. I blame a childhood of Blackadder cassette tapes and Red Dwarf, personally; that and the Shakespearean insult fridge magnets. My mother hid them for years after I called a nursery teacher (who deprived me of a yoghurt, I believe) an unconscionable slimeball.
"The Sues have more advanced technology than us!"
Agent Baxter, the Albanian state washing machine company has more advanced technology than we do. Deal with it. -
((I never thought that the Notary would say that)) by
on 2015-08-19 23:20:00 UTC
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((Leaving it deliberately vague on purpouse))
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She values Time Lords above all else. Especially herself. (nm) by
on 2015-08-20 00:10:00 UTC
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To: Former Agent Turbio by
on 2015-08-19 04:29:00 UTC
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Speaking as someone who lost a partner in the past, and as someone who met Rina in person early this year, I figured it would be worth providing a few choice words regarding this matter, both concerning the state of things and in response to your letter.
With respect to the incident itself, and Rina's subsequent departure, I agree to some extent that the assignment of a Legendary Badfic to a team operating without backup, be it from the DIA or from another team, was a questionable decision at best. I must note, however, that this isn't the first time this has happened - and yes, unfortunately, I speak from experience i.e. being forced to watch my partner [bleep]-ing die in front of me, in a manner so horrific that MTV wouldn't have aired it, and not being able to do anything to save him to top it off! Things like this can and will happen, even if agents are fully prepared. Rina and Zeb had more than enough preparation thanks to both sporking a different Legendary Badfic (which left behind a mess which I, my partner, and five other agent teams helped to clean up), and over thirty other missions besides, including one with a friend of mine from the DF and his partner into one of Cori Falls' fics. And yet, well, this happened. My heart goes out to everyone who knew Rina on a personal level and are impacted by their loss. In the meantime, I implore any agents unfortunate enough to have been assigned a Legendary Badfic to exercise caution on the highest level during the mission into it, and be prepared for worse than the worst at all times during such an endeavor.
As for your letter, on the other hand... I literally cannot imagine a more inappropriate and insensitive response to this situation. Literally. Cannot. I can understand that the Flowers were not entirely blameless, and that the assignment of "Little Miss Mary" to Rina and Zeb is disproportionate with respect to the latter's reporting her violation of the PPC protocol! But it came to my attention recently that Rina refused to seek psychiatric help while she still had the chance, and that she also stole the TARDIS that she used to escape HQ. I was not able to get the details of why Rina took this path, but I can't condone her actions in the aftermath of the mission. I don't mean to be demeaning, not by any means - I have the highest level of respect for Rina and her partners. But I was able to recover precisely because of the actions of the Flowers and the staff of the PPC HQ, and refusing to seek those who are willing to extend a helping hand is not a gesture I would endorse for the safety of not only Rina herself, but for others around her as well! From what I read, she was very troubled prior to the LMM incident, and if she ever comes back to HQ in the state that she was back then, this mentality will surely continue unless she reaches out the way I did.
In short, Rina will be missed by many, including myself, but I hope other agents could learn from this. The arguments that have been spawned by the LMM incident have been many, but it's worth realizing that the whole situation isn't exactly as one-sided as it may seem.
Finally, regarding your threat of violence against the Flowers... What. The. Buck. That is by far the most absurd and ridiculously ignorant response I've ever seen in my life! As noted above, the Flowers' decision to send me to FicPsych for treatment was one that ultimately helped me in the long term, and in general, I can attest to the fact that even if some of HQ's decisions aren't necessarily sensible, it's because of them that we are even able to function as agents in the first place, even if there influence is indirect! They were the ones who founded the PPC, they're the ones who help those who need help like I did, and they're the ones who ensure that the PPC continues to function both as an organization and as a community. One very notable agent leaving HQ on bad terms, partly due to her own decisions rather than the decree of her higher-ups, is no grounds for war against the Flowers by any means. And if, by some antonym of a miracle, you decide to follow through with your threat... well... Let's just say that my Rainbolt, along with plenty of other implements from more than a few of my colleagues, will have your name on it in short notice.
Sincerely, your Number One Greatest Ace Pilot in All Of Humanville,
Rayner Bowerman Blitzkrieg the 20 Percent More Awesome, DMS
[And while I'm at it, is everyone who's registered for the Rose Potter cleanup interlude busy or something? Please let me know via e-mail if and when we can resume working on it!] -
To: Former Agent Turbo by
on 2015-08-19 03:13:00 UTC
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Former Agent Turbo:
Although I do not personally know the individuals involved in these recent controversies, I have heard a great deal about the events as of late. I have, however, done some research into the matter, and I believe your intentions here are entirely out of line.
Now, while I can relate to the pain your companion must be going through in the loss of her friend, I must remind you that Agent Dives understood the risk of this job. She has not only completed, but publically released mission reports for a variety of continua, including the infamous Rose Potter (which is a fiasco in and of itself - Dives is no stranger to controversy, but I digress). She has already completed a mission of Legendary status - and not only did she complete it, she came out stronger than before. With such a track record of success, who would be a better choice for a mission of the same caliber? Dives had already proven to be up to the task, after all.
According to the declassified report released recently, the Legendary-status mission "Little Miss Mary" had actually been completed at the time of the incident. Although Agent Zeb was wounded in action, he made it back to Medical safely. Your assertion that she was unfit to complete the mission falls short when you consider that she had already succeeded. Her subsequent actions of breaking into a DoSAT storage lockup and stealing highly-sensitive technology is completely unjustified, and your expectation of a rescue team is, quite frankly, preposterous. This is not the rescue of an agent - it is the capture of a thief and a renegade.
In response to your terroristic threat of a "daisycutter", I have reported this correspondence to the Department of Internal Affairs. The jobs we do carry great responsibility, and if you are not able to handle the conditions? You should not be allowed to meddle in the affairs of these worlds.
If we ever meet, rest assured that I will have a multitude of ways to counteract any violent intentions you may have towards our employers.
Regards,
Bosh'Guk, Ogre Magi of the Stonemaul Clan -
GUK WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING TOO by
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BOSH SAYS WE MIGHT GET TO CHASE DOWN SOMEONE IN A SPACESHIP
I WANT TO GO
PICK ME
I CAN HOLD MY BREATH REALLY GOOD
I HOPE THEY GIVE US GUNS -
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Former Agent Turbo,
Firstly, let it be known that Internal Affairs is investigating Agent Dives' case as per procedure. An agent has deserted the organization, stolen a valuable piece of technology during her escape, and is no doubt interfering with a Word World as we speak. The crimes Agent Dives is charged with are severe and carry the possibility of expulsion from the PPC if ever she is apprehended. There is no rescue team to retrieve her. This is a manhunt. You are welcome to participate in it if you so wish-- if you know of a way to track a renegade TARDIS commanded by an expert and paranoid pilot in a massive Word World please let us know.
Secondly, why this particular case? You don't seem particularly concerned with the twenty-odd other agents that went insane last week, or the fifteen the week before that. Furthermore, I will have you know that Agent Dives has obstinately refused to seek treatment for her stress problems. What were we supposed to do? Arrest her and force her to go to FicPsych as she kicks and screams and rages against us? Tie her down as the Nurses cram pills down her throat? The Flowers expect agents to use the services available to them in order to avoid slipping into insanity. If said agent completely refuses to seek treatment and embraces a self-destructive behaviour, there is nothing we can do except stop them when they will snap. Unless you suggest that every agent submits to a quasi-Orwellian surveillance program to monitor their mental health, we can only continue to promote FicPsych's services and stop agents who have crossed the line.
Thirdly, let it be known that DIA takes every threat of violence against PPC personnel very seriously. If you act, you will be stopped.
Inspector Ananda Chandra, Department of Internal Affairs -
To: Former Agent Turbio by
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Dear (Former) Agent Turbio,
My partner and I did not have the pleasure of meeting Agent Dives, but I have read of her exploits. Whatever mission there may be to help her, Jesse and I will take part in it. These Flowers do not seem like capable rulers to me.
- Agent Alleb -
To: Former Agent Turbo by
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Salutations!
I'll be frank since I've no patience for claptrap now. You don't seriously expect sentient flowers to understand what's going on in the average agent's brain as they slog through badfic after badfic after badfic, do you? They don't even make an attempt to understand. Frankly, the conditions here are bad and any sensible cop would have already brought the Flowers That Be before a court for their negligence.
Even if the Flowers don't ignore this — they might, who knows — what do you suggest to do? Rina picked up a TARDIS and up-and-vanished. She's on a Time-and-Space machine without a tracker. How the [censored] are we supposed to find her? Admittedly, I'd like to find her very much, but thankfully Navare dropped a Bind on me before I did something stupid.
So, please, don't go around making the situation worse, OK?
~Agent Desdendelle, Floaters -
To: Agent Desdendelle by
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Hello,
I'm afraid I can't disagree with your thoughts on the Flowers. They're... amoral, to say the least. But here has to be a way to find Agent Dives. We've created portals, resurrected fanwriters, harnessed plotholes! It can't be that hard to track and retrieve a single TARDIS. Gosh, call the Doctor if we have to; we can just neuralyze him afterwards. We have great minds here, not to mention the rest of the multiverse. There's got to be a way.
- Agent Michael -
To: Agent Michael by
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Who are you and how did you hack this correspondence?
Last time I checked, I did not CC anybody to my ICEP message to former agent Turbo.
~Agent Desdendelle -
Re: Agent Desdendelle by
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[O_O I made a gaff. I apologize... Now to find an in-universe explanation...]
That... would be Mia. She showed me a message and told me to reply, so I did. She must have hacked you, but I don't know why.
As to who I am, I'm just a random Floater. -
To: Agents Michael, Mia (CC: DIA-Patrol) by
on 2015-08-19 19:04:00 UTC
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Random or otherwise, need I tell you (or your partner) that what she did is a Bad Thing? Sufficient to say, I am not amused; I also have forwarded this conversation to the DIA. Consider this an example of proper, law-abiding agent behaviour.
~Agent Desdendelle
PS: I don't know which continuum you're from, but Heroic Willpower doesn't work here, or in the Whoniverse for that matter. I hope you are not suggesting we will forsake our Duty for the sake of one agent. (Yes, she is a good friend of mine. No, I am not willing to risk the whole of reality for her sake. I'm a bit too cold for that.) -
To: Agent Desdendelle by
on 2015-08-20 23:42:00 UTC
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Uh, I think she knows. She just doesn't care. Mia's a bit strange.
I'm from World One, and I'm not suggesting that we forsake the Duty. Not completely. I'm just saying that there has to be a way to track a TARDIS. They're sentient, right? Could a Time Lord or another TARDIS get a message to her ship to bring her back?
-- Agent Michael
((Again, I apologize for my mistake. If you don't like the back-and-forth, feel free to break it off. I like doing it, personally, but it's your call.)) -
To: Agent Michael by
on 2015-08-21 12:09:00 UTC
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Calling the Doctor, using him to find Rina, and neuralysing him afterwards makes us no better than the Sues. That is what you suggested, no?
Also, I'd reckon there's a reason DoSAT slaps trackers on its fleet — I'd surmise that they are nigh-impossible to track without them. As to getting a message to the TARDIS... well, I'm no TARDIS engineer — you'd want the Ruby Shipwright for that — but I do know my canon and I don't remember people directly communicating with a TARDIS from across time and space and dimensions.
So please, stop suggesting silly things and stop making things worse.
~Agent Desdendelle
((I'm enjoying this, but Agent!Des is pissed off. I'm not my character.)) -
To: Agent Desdendelle by
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I'm not sure how your post ended up on my console -- probably the usual technical faults -- but judging by your message it seems as if a Time Lord agent has gone even more eccentric than usual. (I'm not surprised. Take them away from the Capitol, and they all immediately start acting strange!)
Anyway, to answer your point about tracking and communicating with TARDISes in canon...
-- The Daleks tracked the Doctor's TARDIS in The Chase.
-- The Daleks and the Monk tracked the Doctor's TARDIS, and vice versa, in The Daleks' Master Plan.
-- The Celestial Toymaker tracked and captured the Doctor's TARDIS in the story that bears his name.
-- The Elders tracked the Doctor's TARDIS in The Savages.
-- The Great Intelligence tracked and nearly captured the Doctor's TARDIS in The Web of Fear.
-- The Time Lords tracked and nearly captured the Doctor's TARDIS (and only didn't capture it because they wanted to force him to return of his own - ahem - free will) in The War Games.
-- The Doctor tracked and followed the Master's TARDIS, despite not even having a working TARDIS of his own, in The Time Monster.
-- The Time Lords were able to divert the Doctor's TARDIS to Karn in The Brain of Morbius.
-- The Time Lords sent a recall signal to all TARDISes in The Hand of Fear/The Deadly Assassin.
-- The White Guardian diverted the Doctor's TARDIS to His domain in The Ribos Operation.
-- The Time Lords sent a message to the Doctor's TARDIS in Full Circle.
-- The Keeper of Traken found and projected himself aboard the Doctor's TARDIS in the story of the same name.
-- Other people from Traken sent a message to the Doctor's TARDIS in Logopolis.
And that's just from the first four Doctors' eras. Going by canon, it should be possible to track a TARDIS.
However, most of these involve the Doctor's TARDIS and may rely on specific flaws in the Type 50 design. And if you're talking a TARDIS that fought in the Time War, it may have been specifically protected against tracking and interception.
~Agent Sean Bellman.
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((BTW the comments in the opening paragraph aren't intended to be disrespectful of Ix's amazing story. They're just to show that for most of HQ, this isn't a big grimdark SRS BSNS tragedy that's engulfing everyone.)) -
To: Agent Bellman by
on 2015-08-21 22:45:00 UTC
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For crying out loud. I'm gonna need to get DoSAT again.
Anyway & as I've said: we can't use any canon beings (such as the Celestial Toymaker) for this end — that's what Suvians do. So the question is, do we have any Time Lord or Dalek (or Trakenian) tech that can do the same? I'm inclined to think that if DoSAT would have had any such thing we wouldn't be sitting here exchanging ICEP messages about it; we'd be hearing about Rina's trial.
~Agent Desdendelle -
To: Agent Desdendelle by
on 2015-08-22 11:51:00 UTC
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Don't worry Des, I'm on the way to solve your console's problem!
... Yes, I just received one of your messages on my tablet. Must be some glitch in the ICEP client's addressing mask, it will take only a couple of minutes. I hope. -
Actually, the Doctor's TARDIS was a Type 40. :) (nm) by
on 2015-08-21 22:24:00 UTC
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My,I mean, Sean's finger must've slipped when he typed that (nm) by
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To: Agent Desdendelle by
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But we've done that before, haven't we? An agent called the Doctor for help during the Blackout.
People have communicated with the Doctor in other peculiar ways. Psychic paper and phones have been used before; why not now? Surely, in the entirety of Agent Dives's TARDIS, there's a phone. And I don't remember humans being turned into Time Lords in the canon, but that happened as well.
-Agent Michael
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The fact that it was done before does not make it legitimate.
Look, I'm not gonna sit here arguing this with you. I'd like to believe it's possible to bring Rina back but it simply doesn't look like that.
~Agent Desdendelle -
((Whoops, author field should have Michael's name.)) (nm) by
on 2015-08-19 13:00:00 UTC
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P.P.S. This mail has been forwarded to all HQ personnel too. (nm by
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Bummer, didn't re-read well enough. by
on 2015-08-18 17:40:00 UTC
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*catches mini-Agent Nikki CHerrifower*