Subject: The issue with Leia
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Posted on: 2015-06-27 02:42:00 UTC
Is that while LucasFilm is owned by Disney, it like Marvel is still its own semi-independent company. That I agree with you, it does stretch it too far.
For those who don't know, I'm writing DOFA, Disney's Official Fanfiction Academy. I could really use some fanwriter names, so if you feel like signing up, please do so! I'd like a brief snippet on the personality of your fanwriter alter-ego, if ya don't mind, with pertinent info such as your Disney LO and your favorite Prince, Princess, and Villain. In fact, even if you don't want to sign up, I would love a quick poll of favorite characters in the Disneyverse. Thanks!
-Miss Tai'shar Alleb
Hmm, are these meant to be badfic writers or alter-egos of ourselves?
Well, if it's meant to be potential students, then here:
Name: Helen Ortega
Snippet: Helen is one of the fans who is very much interested with crossovers and melding all of the recent Disney (and some not-Disney) movies into one canon. The Hiccup-Merida-Jack Frost-Elsa-Rapunzel all at Hogwarts, kind of thing. She's well meaning, but has a tendency to sucker onto an idea, write a bit of it, and then drop it for a new variation. As such, she rarely sticks with a project long enough to learn from it.
Appearance: Short, somewhat curly red-brown hair, grey eyes, and fair skin. She's also rather a beanpole in terms of body type.
LO: Esmerelda (not technically a Princess, but still!)
Favorite Prince: Hans - he's not a hero, but at least he has a character and is kind of a fun villain
Favorite Princess: Merida or Elsa
Favorite Villain: Maleficent, especially after the new adaptation.
(As for me, I am having some trouble thinking of an LO in the Disney canon, my favorite princess might be Mulan, I can't really think of a prince because they are rather dull, and Ursula is just so very fun as a villain.)
They can be either; I'm not picky.
I think my favorite villain might have to be Frollo? Just because he is such a complex villain compared to, say, Jafar, and Hellfire is just an incredible song.
Frollo is a really interesting character. He won't be at the OFU, unfortunately, as Esmeralda isn't an official Princess.
Sara Damin. She's bookish, sarcastic, loves pointing out all the mistakes and potholes in movies and books, daydreamy, and can switch from quiet to angry in a snap. Favorite Prince is Li Shaang, favorite Princess is Meg, and favorite Villain is Scar. (Because he actually achieved his goal of becoming king! If he hadn't slipped with telling the truth about his crime, he would have won all the way!)
Let me think about the favorite characters for a bit...
Name: Nathanial Gibbots Apperance: Brown hair and brown eyes. Personality: Thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread. Has incredible struggles with ADHD, Up to Eleven. Usually has self-insert Gary Stus hook up with a princess.
LO: "MERIDA MERIDA MERIDA SHES BADASS"
Favorite prince: "what kind of question is this their all giiiiiirly eww.
Favorite princess: "MERIDA MERIDA MERIDA WHY ARE YOU ASKING TWICE!?"
Nathanial is recorded, and Tai'shar will set him straight. Thanks again!
Because I just watched Big Hero 6, and it was AMAZING.
Favorite Prince: Eh. Um. Hm. I'll come back to this.
Favorite Princess: Probably Belle, just because she's a book nerd, like me.
Favorite Prince: Ummmmmmmmm. Well.
Favorite Villain: Hands down, Maleficent. She is just so amazing and powerful and scary in every way, and I love Eleanor Audley's delivery of every line in the original movie. (Haven't seen the movie Maleficent.)
Favorite Prince: HURRRRRRRR Most of them do so little, it's hard to even think of a good one. I didn't want to repeat a movie I already said, but the Beast is probably the prince with the most character. And even when he is still in beast mode, he still has some redeeming qualities.
I haven't seen Maleficent either, but Eleanor Audley is awesome! What really cracks me up is that she was the bank manager's mother in Beverly Hillbillies, so I always think of that when I hear her voice. Anyway, thank you muchly!
But a potential fanbrat character that you can use if you want to.
Name: Nicole "Nick" Wong
Age: 14
Favorite Princess: Mulan
Favorite Prince: Aladdin
Favorite Villain: Ursula
Lust Object: Aladdin
Appearance: A petite, boyish-looking Asian girl, with very short black hair, brown eyes, and sharp features.
Personality: Nick writes Disney stories not because she likes Disney movies, but because she hates them... or so she claims. The truth is that she's still a huge fan, but she feels like she's supposed to be too old for them. She complains that the stories as-are are "boring" and "dumb," and the female characters "suck" because they don't do any fighting. She also has an unfortunate tendency to act superior and ignore anyone who corrects her. Nick's stories are technically fine and feature decent action scenes, but generally take the form of thinly-veiled diatribes about how the movies would be so much better if they went exactly the way she wanted them to.
Also, if you're just doing Disney Princesses, you might want to indicate that somewhere in the title of your OFU?
Nick is recorded!
Hmm, that's a good point. I'll start thinking up some alternate titles, to avoid confusion. Thanks!
Fanbrat!TheShyIon:
Name: Ion
Age: 15
Appearance: Beanpole, pale, with dirty blonde hair (constantly tangling) down to her bottom. Light gray eyes.
Common Mannerisms: Bites nails, occasional hand-flapping.
Lust Object: (This is a hard one. Elsa or New!Maleficent?) Let's go with Elsa.
Favorite Princess: Does a queen count? If so, Elsa. If not, Anna.
Favorite Prince: Hans. (She dislikes the 'nice' princes.)
Favorite Villain: Maleficent.
Personality: Cracks under pressure easily -- probably one of the first to break down crying and apologizing. Embarrasses easily. Very friendly. Finds it extremely hard to lie. Probably would see this as an opportunity if she wasn't so horribly embarrassed about having to attend. Drools all over the female villains (though not quite as much as with Elsa, of course.) Over-explains.
Likely Crimes Against Canon: Has a decent grasp of grammar, surprisingly -- the crimes would probably be heinously OOC femslash villain-shipping and having self-inserts go after Elsa. Probably after Villain!Elsa. Terrible at description. Shoving bizarre headcanons where they don't fit.
(Yes, I used to be a fanbrat. No, this isn't exactly how I was -- more a mix of how I was then and how I am now, with all the writing-improvement removed. I was *always* a fangirl for villains, though. Still am. This got too long, drat it. Sorry.)
I have a very nice grasp on her character! Thank you!
Name: Adam Johnson. Alias, Jetstream.
Personality: Attention seeking, full stop. Wants the spotlight and will go out of his way to get credit. He's not without at least a smidge of honor, though, and will back down if people call him out on his actions.
LOs: Ariel. Just... ARIEL. Also Eric. Yes, he's bi.
Fave princess and prince: See above. I'd throw in Peter Pan and Hiro Hamada, but you did say this was princesses only, so...
Fave villain: Dr. Falicier. He's such a badass and his Villain Song is the best of the lot, period.
Thank you very much!
Name: Ellie Scotswood
Favourite Princess: Oh, but it is so hard to pick just one...
Favourite Prince: Pick one at random. They are nothing but haircuts nailed to cardboard.
Favourite Villain: Villains are bad. Why be bad when you can be a good girl? I, I am a good girl. Am I not?
LO: ... no... no, i do not have one and never will... you cannot prove it... please do not tell my parents...
Snip:-
It was wish fulfillment of the highest order.
Ellie knew it, not in a deep down sort of way but consciously. It was a choice she was making to write what she wanted, because she wanted to write it. And what was wrong with it? Why shouldn't she wear a pretty dress and go to the ball? Why shouldn't she dance the night away? Why shouldn't she lean in and kiss --
And there was her answer, staring her down like she was a whole hour late home. There was exactly why she shouldn't. It was simply down to who she wanted, and who she knew she wanted. She'd filled a notebook with stories of her ballroom, and, well, Ellie hated them. Not as much as she hated herself for writing them, though, but that wasn't the issue. She hated her old stories, because she knew how shameful they were. Oh yes. That had been made quite clear.
But she couldn't get the pictures of those nights of dancing out of her head, however hard she tried to squash them flat. Every dream was a ballroom, different but the same, dancing and dancing until dress touched dress and-
-And that was why she wanted to squash them. It was nothing but idle wish fulfillment, nothing more. Typing them up helped, and while sometimes she published them on fanfiction.net - through the necessary five or so proxies - most of them she just printed out and burned in the back garden.
Ellie was typing now, and while she typed, words came unbidden into her head:
"A dream is a wish your heart makes..."
Ellie has been recorded in the Great Book of Fanwriters!
I envisage Ellie's primary character arc to be her coming to terms with her sexuality, which she's been trying to beat out of her for some considerable time. In her words:-
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"I do not believe this. I refuse to believe this! All of you, you prettified, simpering shop-window dummies, you have it so ridiculously easy, and you sit there, bold as brass, and you tell me to be true to my heart? How? How can I be true to my heart when what's in there is WRONG?"
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The phrase "so deep in the closet we're gonna need heavy-duty mining equipment to get her out" springs to mind. =]
Thank you! By the way, I love your writing.
Ellie really doesn't like using contractions and abbreviations, and they only come out in times of extreme stress. She's... not exactly snobbish, per se? But she's very self-conscious, and the way she combats it is through speaking in a rather stilted, overly-literal manner, which can easily be confused for snobbery. She's very much a self-insert writer, with very little regard for canon - but the difference is, again, that it's deliberate. They're wish-fulfillment stories that allow her to cope with her "demons", they only exist to carry out that one particular purpose, so frankly what could it possibly matter if they details aren't exactly right? It defeats the object of the exercise as she sees it.
I used to be like that. I kid myself into thinking I'm better now. =]
Also, given that Elsa is one of the bloody X-Men, I think that she'd probably find work as campus security or its analogue. Same with Leia, funnily enough; I envisage them as having something of a rivalry in terms of skill at arms and so on. Perhaps something to consider when you're using the uncrowned mob. =]
I could see an avatar version of myself applying for the hell of it and seeing what he can learn that he didn't know before.
I'll go ahead and use Dylan Read, AKA both my Plort name and the name of the OFU coordinator I have floating in my head. It's the closest you're getting to my real name, without being a close friend anyway.
In-universe name: Dylan Read
Disney LO: Elsa, though he's unlikely to admit to it. Dylan feels that feeling lust for a fictional character is kinda pointless. He thinks that Elsa is gorgeous, but also feels that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell with her.
Favorite Prince: Uh... pass? The princes are all the same to me, so Dylan would probably feel the same.
Princess: Vanellope von Schweetz Anna. An interesting and complex character, and I love how Frozen handled the genre.
Villain: Hans. Very dark, very disturbing, very surprising. Best plot twist ever.
... yeah, can you tell what my favorite Disney movie is?
Personality: He'd probably apply for DOFA voluntarily, just to see what he could learn that he didn't already know. He's hungry for knowledge, too cynical to think that the canons would like him (it's an OFU, he has a point), and would openly disapprove of anyone who admits to making darkfics (like say, self-harming heroes).
... okay, he's me, so he's going to sing and he's got a damn good voice. I He tends to sing the first song to pop into my his head. Nobody has a problem with how it sounds... the problem is that he sings at the absolute worst possible times, and tends to interrupt other people's thoughts and actiARE YOU REEEEAAAAAADY!?
You He are is penciled in, and thanks again!
Dylan wouldn't be much for actually writing fanfic; he wrote one once for a different universe (coughmdnightgreengahack), and after it turned out really bad, he kinda swore off of it.
It'd probably take some effort to convince him that he could conceivably write goodfic.
DOFA as a whole is going to be fairly supportive of its fanwriters, since Disney is such a friendly continuum, so he should have plently of encouragement.
Dylan is still me, just like Valon. He's got empathy up to his ears, and doesn't like pain (in others or himself). He's also very open-minded, not being particularly judgmental based on personality or appearance.
And if he's anything like Valon, he adores whatever minis are here.
Added!
Yeah... based on what happened yesterday? Dylan probably gets really vitriolic toward people who discriminate or insinuate that bad things... aren't.
Those mental walls that keep him polite? Poof, gone. There'd be so much venom that you could probably make a case for the literary world interpreting that literally, and actually having, say, rattlesnake venom drip from his mouth.
I just need to know all of the pertinent information you need, so I can start working on it right away!
Name: Sato (Or so he claims, despite clearly not being Asian)
Lust Objects: Queen Elsa of Arendelle, and Fa Mulan (if available).
Favorites: Lumiere, Kristoff Björgman, Princess Anna of Arendelle, Maleficent (might be slightly off on his ideas here, because of Kingdom Hearts), Gaston, Marshmallow, and Mushu (if available).
He has grey eyes and black hair, and is pale, short and lanky from an undeterminate ethnicity, of age around 17 years old. He's a hyperactive motormouth that never stops talking about stuff he likes, specially if it's about robots or other technological stuff, which annoys mostly everyone. He never stays put, even when sleeping, in fact he moves a lot in his sleep and occasionally sleepwalks. He seems to believe that magic is real, and claims to have seen it in work, though that might be due to his hiperactive imagination. He's also quite unfamiliar with social cues and social interaction, he says it's because he rarely got out of home when he was youger and never liked to socialize with kids at school. Nobody really knows why he's in the DOFA, it's said he arrived here when one of the stories he wrote, had a plothole too much...
Sato has been inducted, and I also got the added stuff.
Could you add to his favorites, The Genie, Rapunzel and Pascal the Chameleon?
a list of your favorite Princes, Princesses, and Villains; your Disney LO; and a brief description of your fanwriter's personality. Thank you!
But I still have more questions.
Can be a completely fictional character the fanwriter?
Can I name secondary characters from the Princess Franchise as favorites?
Yes to both! My fanwriter PoV character is completely fictionalized, after all. And secondary characters are just fine! Some of them even teach classes.
This is a Princess-exclusive 'verse: no Peter Pan, Robin Hood, or Alice in Wonderland. Mickey himself is only referenced, never seen. Thought that was worth mentioning.
Because I note that Elsa isn't a Disney Princess; do you intend to make use of her?
(The wicked side of me also wonders whether Disney's Leia Organa will make it onto the list... though that would provoke jurisdictional conflicts with the :O it's gone Star Wars OFU; if you want to explore that, Doctor Huinesoron of OFUs Underground/United will be available to present the SWFFA case.)
Other notable princesses who aren't Princesses: Sofia (apparently), Giselle...
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There is actually an official "crowning" of Princesses, and you're right, the Frozen crew hasn't been inducted. However, they most certainly will be, so they will be hanging around DOFA but will not teach any classes. It would be awesome to have Leia around, but I think that'd stretch the limits a little.
Is that while LucasFilm is owned by Disney, it like Marvel is still its own semi-independent company. That I agree with you, it does stretch it too far.
You know from the segment The Sorcerer's Apprentice. It is said that he represents Walt Disney himself.
Well... Mini-brooms are the current Mini, but officially Fantasia characters wouldn't be involved because there are no Princesses in the original work. Disney is the headmaster, of course. I would say Yen-Sid would not be included in this OFU.