Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan!

Subject: Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan!
Author: HerrWozzeck
Posted on: 2013-02-15 00:16:00 UTC

Yeah. I don't have too much time to do fandom catch-up myself, so... yeah. XD

Winter's Bone was actually the movie that basically jump-started Jennifer Lawrence's career. It's about a teenage girl in the Ozarks who has to prove that her father is dead to make sure that she and her family don't get evicted from their house. It's one of the most underrated movies of 2009, and you should really check it out (though make sure that the parents aren't around: a squirrel is gutted on-screen, J-Law does get pretty bloodied up, and a small portion of the plot centers around crystal meth).

Ah... I see... Yeah, I don't know. (And as for Madge's friendship... I don't know. It was pretty major in the books, but then Madge got killed off-screen in Mockingjay and then she was kinda forgotten, so I wouldn't say it's a major theme of the whole canon.) And yeah, the casting was great: and it's even better, 'cause J-Law actually likes the Hunger Games, so... yeah.

On a world-building perspective, it actually also works for the better: not only do we get to see more things about life in the Capitol, but it builds the fact that the Hunger Games are, in the end, a spectacle. And on that level, it really works.

XD Oh, you. Well... in terms of getting you into new music... well, it's not really all scream-y, but it's not what people would call tonal either. And actually, most people consider music written in the 50's to be new music since it sounds so new. Here... I'll link you to a couple of pieces of new music that might be interesting to you:

Improvisation III sur Mallarmé (by Pierre Boulez): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJevBESCSH4

...agm... (by Harrison Birtwistle): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJevBESCSH4

Gruppen (by Karlheinz Stockhausen): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhVppVKzzGQ

Partiels (by Gerard Grisey): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiHneFZDyt0

That should provide you with a relatively good taste of what's up with some of the crazier composers within the last sixty years or so. Have fun!

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Salutations by Myrddin on 2013-02-12 22:51:00 UTC Reply

Well like many before me I'm sure, I don't really ever know what to write for an intro, so I guess I'll try the basics and go from there ^^;

I'm Myrddin, I'll probably wind up going by Myrd a lot though. I've been a fan of the original series and OFUM for several years. A recent re-reading of said series, as well as some of the lovely spin-offs has left me with the thought that being a Sue-sassin would be interesting, that and I've always wanted to adopt a mini-Balrog or three, so I thought I'd start the process by poking my head in here and saying hi :)

My fandoms include Lord of the Rings of course, Jurassic Park, Stargate, Narnia, Hunger Games and to some extent Doctor Who and Farscape. I'll probably dabble in Harry Potter a bit, but after the last book... I don't think I'd call myself a fan of the series any longer. And I may see if my agents are strong enough to handle Twilight, as it really bothers me that as rabid as fans of the series are, they can't even get the canon right XD

*sets out some NM&NM cookies for everyone*

Late to the party... by son_of_heaven176 on 2013-02-15 02:22:00 UTC Reply

Turn your back for a little while, and a newbie comes and gets swamped with gifts! I hope there are still some cookies lift!

Either way, welcome to the PPC Board. As for your gift, have this Aslan plushie that roars when you squeeze it!

left* (nm) by son_of_heaven176 on 2013-02-15 18:13:00 UTC Reply
Re: Late to the party... by Myrddin on 2013-02-15 03:06:00 UTC Reply

*turns around to answer the board with a tray of cookies fresh out of the oven* Well there weren't, but then this batch just finished cooking. ^^

Thank you very much! *squeezes plushie but then jumps at the roar*

Re: Late to the party... by son_of_heaven176 on 2013-02-16 01:54:00 UTC Reply

*omnomnom* These are very good!

Hello~! by Rina on 2013-02-14 10:23:00 UTC Reply

Welcome to PPC. Narnia and Hunger Games, eh? Fun. Have a pair of scissors and a some really elastic ribbons, as well as, a basket of reeaally hard muffins. Don't eat those. They're for throwing not eating. Enjoy~!

Re: Hello~! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 23:51:00 UTC Reply

Projectiles! Huzzah!

Thank you, most people don't let me have sharp objects, mwahahaha, I mean, thank you for the ribbons and scissors as well. :)

I take it I've found another Hunger Games fan? And a Narnia one as well?

Huzzah! by Rina on 2013-02-15 11:59:00 UTC Reply

Be careful with those scissors, okay?

Yes, you did. I enjoyed reading the books. :)

Re: Huzzah! by Myrddin on 2013-02-15 19:14:00 UTC Reply

*sighs* If I must. Maybe I can be "not careful" with them accidentally around a sue sometime though? :D

Then are you in the "haven't seen the movie" boat too?

Re: Huzzah! by Rina on 2013-02-16 01:20:00 UTC Reply

Meh... Sure. *grins* I would love to cut their hair sometime though...

No, I watched it. It's a bit different from the book but it can have an o-kay for me.
Re: Huzzah! by Rina on 2013-02-16 01:20:00 UTC Reply

Meh... Sure. *grins* I would love to cut their hair sometime though...

No, I watched it. It's a bit different from the book but it can have an o-kay from me.

Re: Huzzah! by Myrddin on 2013-02-16 04:54:00 UTC Reply

Ah, that seems to be the general consensus. I think I will have to "watch" it soon. (meaning put it on in the other room so I can hear it, but stay away from the TV since I don't want to see the actors in my mind from now on when I re-read the books. XD )

I'll be happy to supply vict... er participants for you to open up a sue hair salon. ^_^

Re: Huzzah! by Rina on 2013-02-16 09:27:00 UTC Reply

The movie wan't that bad but yeah... If you don't want their faces stuck in your head, you should clear away from the room. XD

A sue salon that involves shaving hair. Fun. Fun. Fun!

Re: Huzzah! by Myrddin on 2013-02-16 15:32:00 UTC Reply

I'll definitely have to "watch" it soon though, I'm really curious now with all the excellent reviews it's receiving from book fans!

Muwahahahahahahaha! Here little sues, we have a beauty special just for you! :D

Hello, ickle newbie! by Lily Winterwood on 2013-02-14 05:16:00 UTC Reply

Welcome and have some lemming repellent!

Re: Hello, ickle newbie! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 05:50:00 UTC Reply

Oooo, does it only work on the small furry rodents, or for the green haired, blue robed variety as well?

All sorts! by Lily Winterwood on 2013-02-14 06:04:00 UTC Reply

Even the crazy fangirl sort that inhabit the Circle of Lemmings. Tread carefully, traveller!

Re: All sorts! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 20:05:00 UTC Reply

Ack! *scrambles back into a corner brandishing Lemming Repellent* I think I will defiantly leave the small furry ones alone, and save it all for when I need it!

Thank you! (because I realize I neglected to do so before.)

Welcome a-Board! by TheMadHatteress on 2013-02-14 03:38:00 UTC Reply

Heya! Welcome to the Board! I'm pretty sure that everything of importance has already been said by now, so I'mma just go ahead and give you this propeller cap that is somehow actually strong enough to carry you. Now go and have some lovely adventures!

Re: Welcome a-Board! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 20:23:00 UTC Reply

Ooo, fun, thank you!

I always think of Calvin when I see/hear/think about propeller caps. ^^

Re: Welcome a-Board! by TheMadHatteress on 2013-02-14 23:10:00 UTC Reply

Can I please hug you? Because you're the first person that has brought that up and that's pretty much where I got the idea from. Calvin and Hobbes is my favorite comic of all time.

Re: Welcome a-Board! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 23:43:00 UTC Reply

Sure ^^

Calvin & Hobbes is awesome! (I even cosplayed as Calvin at Anime Central a couple years ago, made my own Hobbes and everything.) XD

Good to have you a-Board! by doctorlit on 2013-02-13 16:08:00 UTC Reply

Greetings, new friend! Have a vial of Compsognathus venom!

Re: Good to have you a-Board! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 02:28:00 UTC Reply

Goody, Compy venom, thank you! I love the little Compsognathuses, they do everyone a great service in the book, though sadly their efforts were thwarted in the movie.

Hello! by Lynne Lloyd on 2013-02-13 15:08:00 UTC Reply

Welcome! Thank you for the cookies! Here's some Bleepolate brownies for you, freshly baked! And also, a very soft and warm blanket. I love blankets!

Re: Hello! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 02:22:00 UTC Reply

Thank you, I love brownies! And soft and warm! However did you know? ^^

Though I must wonder, now that I have all of this lovely Bleep and other food stuffs, and the fuzzy warm blanket and hat, won't the Narrative Laws of the Universe feel the need to step in and [BEEEEEPP!] at me, despite my not having a response center yet, never mind a console? I mean they have to just be having a fit at all the comfortableness I'm luxuriating in right now. XD Or will I simply pay for this once I get an RC and console? XD

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A small container sails slowly to the ground by way of parachute amidst the cannon fire indicating another fallen assassin. You find a note on it, written in mediocre-level cursive. It reads:

"Welcome, newbie! Have a gift from Teh Specs!"

Blinking in confusion brought on by lack of sleep mixed with fear and paranoia, you quietly open the container and receive:

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(Filled with answers to a good deal of your problems!)

Re: You've received a gift from a sponsor! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 20:28:00 UTC Reply

Let us all take a moment to honor the assassin, unless it was a sue turned assassin turned SUE again of course.

Thank you very much! Answers seem to be in much shorter supply than questions, it's always good to have a bag full of them. ^^

Welcome! by KittyNoodles on 2013-02-13 11:04:00 UTC Reply

Hello there, Myrd(din)! I'm KittyNoodles, and as a welcome gift I have placed bleepnerds and an Odd Container* in your inventory!

*Odd Container
Item Level 1
Chance on Opening: Receive one shower of confetti or one huggle - your choice.
[The container seems to be fashioned from glite-painted wood. Its weight changes at odd intervals, and you have the feeling that opening it may be hazardous to your health.]

Re: Welcome! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 06:14:00 UTC Reply

*has the strange urge to lift the Odd Container over my head while victory music plays*

Thank you very much. ^^ I shall have to ruminate on what is in it, at least for a little bit. ^^

Do eet. by KittyNoodles on 2013-02-14 09:36:00 UTC Reply

Holding things over your head to victorious music is ever so gratifying. :D

Re: Do eet. by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 23:28:00 UTC Reply

http://noproblo.dayjo.org/ZeldaSounds/

YOU DID EET. :D by KittyNoodles on 2013-02-15 01:27:00 UTC Reply

That seriously made my day. -claps you on the shoulder-

But of course! by Myrddin on 2013-02-15 19:10:00 UTC Reply

It's the only way to receive a new item! :D

YES. (nm) by KittyNoodles on 2013-02-15 19:51:00 UTC Reply

Welcome to the PPC. :) by Cassie on 2013-02-13 11:02:00 UTC Reply

~~Yum, fresh meat~~ It's always nice to see new people! :D

Have a bag of pebbles and a Random Shiny Object.

Re: Welcome to the PPC. :) by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 04:38:00 UTC Reply

Hi ^^

Thank you, Shiny things are my favorite! :D

Greetings! by DawnFire on 2013-02-13 10:00:00 UTC Reply

Welcome to the Board! Nice name :)

You have a point about Twilight--I hate to say it, but we could use a few rabid Twilight fans in the PPC. Oh well. I suppose non-rabid, non-fans will have to do... (I'm also planning on taking on a Twilight badfic or two. I was a fan for a few months, before I noticed how bad the plot was, and I can at least get through a few badfics without wincing *too* much. And I'm sure I can get up enough rage to deal with Sues--well, non-canon Sues, anyway--as long as they're messing up some of the only bearable characters in the canon. So I suppose we'll see how long it takes my agents to go completely insane...)

Cookies! *omnomnom* Thanks very much! Here, have some Swiss Bleepolate, guaranteed to distract you with amazing chocolate while making all those horrific details go fuzzy. Also, some lembiss bread (spelling intentional). Be careful, though--it was created by a Sue, and may have some strange effects.

The problem about Twilight, is that it attracts far more Suethors than goodfic-writers--because, while it appeals strongly to teenagers and people who like romance novels (just a generalization, not meant to encompass every teenager and romance novel fan), it doesn't attract too many of the sort of people who flock to, say, LotR because of the detail and depth of the canon. Which is why there's rather a lot more Twilight badfic than goodfic. (At least, that's my theory).

I do love Twilight parodies, though :D There's a good LotR one called "Highlights" on FFN, by Araloth the Random, if anyone wants a recommendation.

Again, welcome, welcome...

~DawnFire

Re: Greetings! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 21:44:00 UTC Reply

Thank you, and thank you. XD

And thank you again for the Swiss Bleepolate and lembiss!

I just don't understand all the fans that rabidly defend something that even they don't know. Not even that they can't get right in their fan-fiction stories that's nothing new in sue-fiction, but that they honestly seem not to grasp, despite it being specifically stated. It baffles me. O_o

Sadly for Twilight fic authors, it helps to have something to start with that has some depth. I did read, and enjoy Luminosity, which I found through the wiki. I will definitely check out Highlights too!

Anytime by DawnFire on 2013-02-19 14:54:00 UTC Reply

Strange as it may sound, I'm pretty sure there is the occasional Twilight goodfic. However, there are far more of the sort of fic that, for instance, completely changes the canon rules of vampires (it exists. It would probably work fairly well as an original novel, if not for the first chapter, which involves--or rather, is--the flashback tale of the Sue's tragic past).

Ooh, Luminosity! I like that one. I'm not sure I've ever gotten through the entire fic, but I like what I've read of it. As for Highlights...well, I love pretty much all of Araloth's work, and Highlights was just hilarious. Happy reading :)

~DF

Re: Anytime by Myrddin on 2013-02-19 19:20:00 UTC Reply

*sniggers* One might argue that since Twilight is almost a badfic, just a canon one, the reverse of good literature should be true. Most Twilight fic should be goodfic. XD Sorry to any Twilight fans. ^^;

I enjoyed the second "book" of Luminosity more than the first, I think the author kind of over did it in swinging Bella to the opposite. But then, maybe that's how she's be if she didn't revolve around Edward and actually had her own personality? Anyway, a lot of the second book takes place in Volterra and gives a lot more fleshing out to the members of the Volturi, kind of like how the Hunger Games movie sounds like it expanded the characters of Seneca and Haymitch, so it was really interesting. The little side stories listed on Lumiosity's website are further glimpses at specific people, and are quite interesting too. ^^

*runs off to read Highlights*

Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan! by HerrWozzeck on 2013-02-13 03:35:00 UTC Reply

I haven't written any Hunger Games missions yet, but I'm glad to see another HG fan here at the PPC! Which is your favorite book of the series? And who's your favorite character?

Anyway... Hai there! Welcome to the PPC! We love newbies here, so leave your sanity at the door and come on in!

As a welcome gift, I'm going to give you "Rendering" by Luciano Berio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQB5bFTwHfI

Enjoy!

Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan! by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 04:21:00 UTC Reply

Hi. :D I haven't seen any Hunger Games missions at all actually, which since it has been made into a movie, surprises me a bit. I may look into doing my first mission there once I have hung around a bit and procured permission. ^^

I think the first book is my favorite if I had to pick, although really they are all very good, it's very hard to choose. As for characters, I really like Rue, Finnick, Wiress, Beetee, Cinna and Haymitch a lot. Now it's your turn, mwahaha! Which is your favorite book and character? Have you seen the movie? And if so, what did you think of it?

Thank you for the rendering ^^ It was lovely!

Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan! by HerrWozzeck on 2013-02-13 04:44:00 UTC Reply

Missions in the PPC generally get written according to author preference. It just so happens that not very many people in the PPC are into the Hunger Games canon. Now that I'm back, I might see if I can't change that, but we'll see.

Personally, my favorite of the whole series is Catching Fire. I was actually really interested in some of the ideas that Catching Fire postulated, particularly in regards to that awesome arena where the games took place, and how all the plot threads came together at the end. The first book was also very good, and there were things about Mockingjay that I loved and things about it I didn't like so much. Finnick and Rue are also some of my favorite characters, actually: they're just so lovable it's hard to get around it, really.

I definitely saw the movie. I was a little sad that they cut the avox subplot, but I could see why they did it. On the whole, I thought the movie was a bit rushed, so it wasn't a great movie. As far as an adaptation of the book, though, I couldn't have asked for anything more: the film showed a world that was literally what I imagined the world of the Hunger Games to be.

Yeah. I always find myself fascinated by Luciano Berio's work: it's always incredibly fascinating.

Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan! by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 05:46:00 UTC Reply

That seems really odd to me considering they are such good books. I look forward to reading missions to the Hunger Games if you find some good (bad)fic for them. Maybe I'll peruse some and make some suggestions for you to check out.

I did love the Catching Fire arena, it just seems like the second games went so fast. I suppose as clever as the arena was, it was less geared toward having a nice long staying power like the first arena, you can only loop through the cycle so many times, especially once they figured out the catch.

I've not watched the movie, I was unimpressed with the casting choices, especially since I know people who are pretty much Katniss and Peeta, so I would really prefer to not muss up the pictures I have in my head. ^^; I had heard mixed reviews of the movie, and my only friend here that's into it is "Katniss" so she wasn't too keen on seeing it either. I've been trying to find someone who was a solid fan of the books who went to see the movie for an opinion, it's nice to hear they did the world justice. It would have been nice if they could have kept the avox sub-plot, though as a fan, I would pretty much say that about any element they had to cut.

I feel I must confess that I am not a music connoisseur, it was very pretty though. :)

Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan! by HerrWozzeck on 2013-02-13 13:06:00 UTC Reply

Well, tastes here in the PPC differ wildly. There used to be someone here who I got into an argument about taste with when it turned out that she didn't like World War Z (another book I quite like a lot), so taste in the PPC is pretty relative with that.

Yeah. And honestly, for me the more interesting part of Catching Fire was watching the ways President Snow went around screwing with Katniss' life. I think that made him an extremely effective, villain, particularly when the quarter quell conditions were announced. So yeah...

The casting actually worked out pretty well in the end, particularly as far as Jennifer Lawrence is concerned. (I actually thought J-Law's casting was perfect for Katniss Everdeen, mostly because she kind of already played a very similar character in Winter's Bone. Difference between them, of course, is that J-Law had to gut a squirrel on-camera in Winter's Bone.) I don't think I can find any casting choice in that movie that didn't work for me, as all the acting was really good. The things that weren't so great about the movie were the pacing (again, it felt just a bit rushed), and the fact that Gary Marshall cannot direct an action scene to save his life (seriously, Gary, lay off on the damn shaky-cam!). Otherwise, though, it was a pretty good movie.

Yeah, they did have to cut material, but fortunately they didn't cut too much. The avox subplot was not the only thing they cut, though: they cut Madge out of the movie entirely, and came up with a completely different version of how Katniss got her mockingjay pin (she got it from the Hob). There are merits to both approaches, I think, particularly as far as some things in Catching Fire are concerned. That said, there was actually a small amount of material that was added, and that one thing that was added was something that I actually thought was for the better. The really big thing I'm thinking about is that the movie didn't stay with Katniss the whole time once she was in the Games. Seneca Crane and Haymitch both actually have expanded roles in the movie, on virtue of the fact that the movie cuts to the Capitol at some points (particularly to the game-makers, so Seneca Crane's role is greatly expanded). I actually thought this was really interesting, because then we got to see more of the machinations behind how things work in the Games. The movie showed how the game-makers might think to make things more interesting, the movie showed all the talking that Haymitch had to do to start dropping items down to the arena... that was actually an addition that I liked a lot.

Hm... we'll need to fix that, LOL. I think I have a new music guinea pig!

Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 21:01:00 UTC Reply

XD Well I'm sure there are people here who, upon learning I've not had the chance to read/watch their fandoms, but have found time for Twilight would demand I go sit in a corner and think about what I've done. XD

(not really... I know people here would never /say/ such things) ^_^

I've not heard of Winter's Bone, although it sounds like I may have to check it out.

Don't you know? Shaking = intense action! How would we know what was going on if the camera stayed still all the time? I don't really have anything against the actors they chose... it's just they did not at all personify the people I had in my head for those characters, it's nice to hear they chose actors for a popular series that can act at least. *cough*Twilight*cough* I'm even more sad to hear they cut Madge, Katniss' and her friendship was a major (minor) theme, even if they could change how she acquired the pin smoothly.

However the addition of the behind the scenes with Haymitch and Crane sounds really interesting, and a good choice as an addition to make the book more "movie friendly". I'm still not sure I want to actually watch it, because I don't want the actors taking over the images in my head, but I may see about renting it and letting it play in a different room so I can listen to it!

*squeak* How did you know? Actually I suppose, I'm not a guinea pig, but I do have one. ^^ It's two feet long, invisible, Atlantian in origin and lives on an island that tows around the Bermuda triangle. I would love to listen to new music though, as long as it's not all scream-y. ^^

Re: Oh hey, another Hunger Games fan! by HerrWozzeck on 2013-02-15 00:16:00 UTC Reply

Yeah. I don't have too much time to do fandom catch-up myself, so... yeah. XD

Winter's Bone was actually the movie that basically jump-started Jennifer Lawrence's career. It's about a teenage girl in the Ozarks who has to prove that her father is dead to make sure that she and her family don't get evicted from their house. It's one of the most underrated movies of 2009, and you should really check it out (though make sure that the parents aren't around: a squirrel is gutted on-screen, J-Law does get pretty bloodied up, and a small portion of the plot centers around crystal meth).

Ah... I see... Yeah, I don't know. (And as for Madge's friendship... I don't know. It was pretty major in the books, but then Madge got killed off-screen in Mockingjay and then she was kinda forgotten, so I wouldn't say it's a major theme of the whole canon.) And yeah, the casting was great: and it's even better, 'cause J-Law actually likes the Hunger Games, so... yeah.

On a world-building perspective, it actually also works for the better: not only do we get to see more things about life in the Capitol, but it builds the fact that the Hunger Games are, in the end, a spectacle. And on that level, it really works.

XD Oh, you. Well... in terms of getting you into new music... well, it's not really all scream-y, but it's not what people would call tonal either. And actually, most people consider music written in the 50's to be new music since it sounds so new. Here... I'll link you to a couple of pieces of new music that might be interesting to you:

Improvisation III sur Mallarmé (by Pierre Boulez): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJevBESCSH4

...agm... (by Harrison Birtwistle): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJevBESCSH4

Gruppen (by Karlheinz Stockhausen): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhVppVKzzGQ

Partiels (by Gerard Grisey): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiHneFZDyt0

That should provide you with a relatively good taste of what's up with some of the crazier composers within the last sixty years or so. Have fun!

Ack! by Myrddin on 2013-02-21 05:09:00 UTC Reply

Oh my, I don't know how I missed this one, I've been trying to keep track of everything. XD

I guess I think of Madge's friendship as a theme through the entire series, because Katniss is so affected by it, so while it's true she does die, and "off-screen" at that, she remains a part of Katniss, through the pin, the strawberries and as someone who was truly a friend to her.

I'll definitely add Winter's Bone to my "need to watch soon" movie list, as well as the Hunger Games, though however appropriate the casting may have been, I still don't want to actually watch it watch it, it sounds like a good representation of the book, with some interesting extra inside bits. XD

Fun, I'll listen to them all tomorrow. :D Thanks!

Hey, I like Hunger Games too! by World-Jumper on 2013-02-13 20:24:00 UTC Reply

I thought the movie was really good, especially when:
SPOILER ALERT, YES, THIS MEANS NEW THINGS THAT ARE PRESENT IN THE FILM THAT WERE NOT IN THE BOOKS
Haymitch convinced Senica Crane to include the new rule of 'If the pair is from the same district, they can both win' because of the marketing power of Twu Wuv. That scene single handedly made the game-maker's worst mistake Haymitch's greatest triumph of the first games.
END OF SPOILERS

I consider the movie version mostly-canon, unlike most films, because Suzan Collins co-wrote the script and worked with the director every step of the way. The things they cut had to be cut for timing, and while the books are considered the main canon, the new additions to the film are still valid canon.

Fun fact about the movie: President Snow's rose garden scenes were made specifically because of a letter Donald Sutherland wrote to the director when he asked for the role. It was so powerful in explaining why he believed in the character and script, he gave him more time on screen to flesh out Snow's character.

As for my favorite book and character; Either the first book or Mockingjay, and Peta. Peta acts so much like me, I can't help but love him. As for the books, Mockingjay has so much politically, but the first books has a greater amount of raw impact, so I'm not sure which one I prefer. All I know is, I love the books too, and need to re-read them soon.

Re: Hey, I like Hunger Games too! by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 22:26:00 UTC Reply

I like the idea of seeing behind the scenes like that, and I'll bet it's more engaging for the audience watching it. I do wish they hadn't cut so many of the things I'm hearing got cut though.

I love Snow, in that "really really really hate him but he's got such a great depth of explained character but he's so evil" sort of way. XD I'm glad they were able to flesh that out on screen.
*collects minis Senica, Suzan, and Peta* by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-14 03:09:00 UTC Reply

*Seneca
*Suzanne
*Peeta
(Also Hunger Games fan here...Favorite book has got to be the first, and Mockingjay just got confusing. By the end I think Katniss was going insane, and the best resolution for her character would have been to join the Hunters of Artemis. They would give her a supportive family and friends, and she already has awesome archery skills.
I liked Peeta, Prim, and Buttercup. Seriously, Katniss and Buttercup's love-hate relationship is awesome. Yes, I'm talking about Prim's cat.
The movie was good. The only change I was a little bit upset with was the muttations not looking like the dead tributes. It made them creepy times twenty in the book. But maybe it was too difficult. It seems like having the author involved with the process helps make it a good movie.

Mini adoptions by Myrddin on 2013-02-16 15:24:00 UTC Reply

I've been wondering, are you the holder of the official adoption certificates for these minis since you collected them, or am I as they were born on my thread?

Either way, they all seem to have been claimed pending discovery of what precisely they are. XD
World-Jumper would like Peta
DawnFire would like Suzan
Rina would like Senica

Of course if it is not my place to allow these adoptions because you hold that honor, you can distribute them where you like, or keep them all! XD That's just who expressed interest in them first. :)

Look at the new thread. :) (nm) by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-16 16:39:00 UTC Reply

Re: *collects minis Senica, Suzan, and Peta* by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 22:12:00 UTC Reply

I was sort of wondering if those were going to be picked up, or if as they were posted on my thread, perhaps that was my duty. Guess I missed the boat if it was. XD

Author involvement in the scripting process is definitely a good thing. I loved how horrifying the muttations were in the books, I suppose the movie makers were forced by the rating system to strip some of that out though, or move to a higher rated movie, meaning a good chunk of the fan base would have difficulty going.

I love Katniss and Buttercup! I hope they at least kept that wonderful (awful?) relationship in the movies!
Ooh, minis. by DawnFire on 2013-02-14 15:37:00 UTC Reply

What exactly are Hunger Games minis? Also, could I perhaps have Suzan? Suzanne Collins is definitely a favorite author of mine (I should probably put Gregor and the Overlanders as one of my fandoms, really, I even wrote fic for it once), and I would be quite honored (and happy) to have a mini of her :) Although, would Suzan even be a normal Hunger Games mini, or would she be an Author-mini...? Are there even Author-minis, or am I making that up?

~DF

Re: Ooh, minis. by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 22:19:00 UTC Reply

I think she would be an author mini. I don't see why those wouldn't exist, sue-authors can make sue minis, and locations can be minis, so why not the canon authors themselves? I think they would be separate though since a sue-mini is distinctive to the sue, author minis should be their own category. Especially since lots of authors write more than one series, how would one pick which fandom the author mini would be?

I couldn't find Hunger Games minis when I looked either, I think the lack of missions there is the reason. I was trying to think what they would be and only came up with mini-mockingjays and mini-bread (because of Peeta) that would be easily recognizable things from the universe. But I think mini-bread would be more OFUM related what with its breadlegs being sentient bread. So that left the mini-mockingjays. But I think I'm going to have to third the opinion of mini-muttations that came up! (although mini-Effies would be fun too!)

Warning: some insanity ahead (warning unneeded on the Board) by DawnFire on 2013-02-14 22:54:00 UTC Reply

I can't find mini-authors on the wiki, but I'm guessing they might work like Real World minis? ...that would be interesting...and weird...uh. Any (other) ideas for what a mini-author would look like?

Yeah, they don't seem to be there. I second mini-Effies! (Partly because I think they'd be hilarious, and partly because I can't quite remember what muttations are...unless they're the vicious dog-type-things that attack them in the Games?)

And the quest to discover the true form of a mini-author begins...

(Question: can you make a mini of a mini? For instance, if you misspell mini-Balrog as mini-balrog--what do you get?)

(Yes, my brain is coming up with very strange and random things today, thanks for asking. Earlier it posited a potential romance between a self-insert agent and the Boarder who created her.)

(I'm not kidding.)

On another, now related, note: Do the agents know about the Board? If not, how can there be NM&NMs? (Or at least, how can they know about them?)

Someday I will get around to posting the list of questions that I keep on finding to ask. Someday...

~DawnFire

Minis of authors... by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-15 01:59:00 UTC Reply

Are simply the minis from that continuum. In this mission a misspelling of Stephenie Meyer was found ("Stephanie"), and it became a mini-Sparklewolf.
Yes, those are the muttations, and mini-Effies doesn't make any sense. She's a canon character, and usually the minis are an animal of some sort (I sort of broke the rules with mini-Gorn, but seeing as it's a species it's a little different). The only times they're not animals is when the continua has no animals.

Oh, and the answer to your question about the agents knowing about the Board is right here.

Re: Minis of authors... by Myrddin on 2013-02-17 16:55:00 UTC Reply

So, whatever story the mission is in, that's what the misspelled author minis are? So a misspelling of C.S. Lewis in a Narnia mission would be a mini-dragon where as a misspelling of C.S. Lewis in a Screwtape Letters mission would be say, a mini-demon and a misspelling of C. S. Lewis in a Space Trilogy mission might be something like a mini-eldil?

I guess that makes sense, and it makes things nice and easy. ^^ Thanks for clearing that up. :)
Oh. Pity. by DawnFire on 2013-02-16 20:48:00 UTC Reply

Oh well. In that case, once it's been decided what the Hunger Games minis are, I will be quite happy to adopt Suzan. (She can join the six mini-Balrogs and the tribble that I was given--by you, actually--as a welcome present. There are going to be some pretty crowded response centers, once I get permission...for now, they're all living with me. Fortunately, everything's fireproofed...but it is getting a little insane.)

Of course. Of course it's Huinesoron who wrote that. It makes so much sense. *wanders off to read* Thanks :)

~DF

Re: Warning: some insanity ahead (warning unneeded on the Board) by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 23:50:00 UTC Reply

Clearly a decision as to appearance should be made so that can be fixed! Personally, I think they would work like Real World minis and just look like the author, like mini-sues look like their sue counterparts.

Mini-Effies would be hilarious, yes the muttations are the dog version of the dead tributes that show up at the end of the first games. Although it gets shortened to mutts and becomes an all encompassing term for any of the crossbreeds the capital created by the end of the series.

I want a mini mini! I love tiny things. XD I wonder if it's possible to create such a thing, or if things just start to spiral? Like a mini-mini-mini if you spell it mini-balorg? I shall have to dig in my new A Convenient Supply Bag to see if these questions are some of the answers it holds!

As I have also told DawnFire... by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-15 02:04:00 UTC Reply

Misspellings of author's names simply become the mini for that continuum, e.g. "Tolkein" is a mini-Balrog.

And minis are animals, unless the continuum doesn't have any animals that would work. Then you have to be creative. But Hunger Games has animals that work, like mini-mutts or maybe mini-Mockingjays.

Re: As I have also told DawnFire... by Myrddin on 2013-02-15 02:52:00 UTC Reply

But what about authors that have more than one continuum? Like C.S. Lewis, Suzanne Collins, Carolyn Keene, Jim Butcher or even Stephanie Meyers off the top of my head? ^^

I still like the idea of mini-muttations, although I shall slightly mourn that the mini-Effies have poofed before they could even begin to exist. They would be super fun. XD

Re: As I have also told DawnFire... by Rina on 2013-02-15 15:07:00 UTC Reply

I like the idea of mini-mutts as well. Though, there are a lot of mutts in the series (according to Katniss), like the mockingjay for example, it's a cross-breed between a jabberjay and a mockingbird, or those hounds in the book one, or the jabberjay and so on.

So now I'm bit confused with what I had written there. (I agree but disagree? What?) because there are different kinds of muttations. Would that mean different kinds of minis as well?

(Did I sound too serious? I hope not.)

Re: As I have also told DawnFire... by Myrddin on 2013-02-15 17:09:00 UTC Reply

Absolutely right, but not. XD How's that?

When I say/agreed with mini-muttations, I meant the arena muttations of the tributes in book one. Although "mutts" does become slang for all hybrids made by the capitol by the end of the series. If I recall correctly "muttations" is very nearly only used to refer to the tribute mutts from the first book.

So my vote was for mini-muttations (first book incarnation), but I like World-Jumper's idea that they would all be different in that unlike most minis that are one thing, the Hunger Games mini-mutts would vary according to character, complete with physical aspects from the character who's name was butchered to birth the mini. ^^

Ooh~ better. XD by Rina on 2013-02-16 03:15:00 UTC Reply

Oh, I understand now. Tehee~ that sounds fun, I'm excited!

Btw, can I have Peta? (After we decide what the minis are going to be, of course)

Minis by Myrddin on 2013-02-16 04:50:00 UTC Reply

I think World-Jumper has already asked to keep Peta and DawnFire wanted Suzan. So that just leaves Senica, I am really unsure as to who it is that is responsible for the official adoption of these. Whether I get to because it happened on my intro thread, or if it's hermione of vulcan as she was the one that collected them when they popped into existence.

Awwww... by Rina on 2013-02-16 09:30:00 UTC Reply

Senica then! It was my second choice. :D

I don't know as well. I'm also fairly new eh...

Re: Awwww... by Myrddin on 2013-02-16 15:27:00 UTC Reply

Well if it's up to me, you can certainly have Senica. XD I'll see if I can't find out who it is that is responsible for that decision. ^^

Tehee~ by Rina on 2013-02-17 22:04:00 UTC Reply

Haha
Wonder what Senice would look like...

Oh no! Senice, another amorphous wraith mini! (nm) by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-17 22:33:00 UTC Reply

Oh, crap. Stupid phone! by Rina on 2013-02-18 10:21:00 UTC Reply

Nyahaha~ What happens to it now? 0.0

I think... by Myrddin on 2013-02-18 22:22:00 UTC Reply

Everyone else is just letting theirs float around nearby them until they gain form. ^^ So you may be able to keep it, otherwise, someone can adopt it after the first mission?

Also for places. by World-Jumper on 2013-02-15 21:19:00 UTC Reply

If it was a name of a place that was misspelled, then it would have some physical traits of the place, if possible. For example, if District 12 were misspelled, it would have a coal-gray coat with grey eyes. The fun mutt would be the Capitol (which I am sure has been misspelled before) as it may well share the Capitol fasion sense. If the autor cannot think of anything, the 'default' mutt would be the ones from the film.

I love it! by Myrddin on 2013-02-16 15:45:00 UTC Reply

The muttations as minis are just getting better and better, being so infinitely adaptable as they are, which is even pretty much a canon trait!

And it'll be a nice break from the badfic and nearly as much fun as sporking it, to think up what the minis look like, especially the place minis. ^_^
*coal-black, not grey. (nm) by World-Jumper on 2013-02-15 21:21:00 UTC Reply

...oops... by World-Jumper on 2013-02-14 07:15:00 UTC Reply

Man, I'm sorry. Shesh Peeta is even an easy one, I shouldn't have made that mistake. If you don't mind, I'd like to keep little Peta as a reminder to not screw up names.

Actually, I was just on the wiki, and I did not see what the Hunger Games minis were. If there are none, I motion for them to be mutts from the 74'th games, complete with physical aspects from the charicter who's name was butchered to birth the mini.

In other news: Aperently Percy Jackson and The Hunger Games share the same universe. While Katniss joining the Hunters would be interesting to say the least, I don't think Artemis would appreciate a hunter who is in the middle of a love triangle and has expressed interest in male company in the past. Now, if Apollo would stop writing awful poems, and form his own archery team, perhaps she could join that. Otherwise, I don't think she would make it into the Hunters, or any other Greek Pantheon based organization. Darn it, now I have to think about the crossover of the two. What have you done hermione? What have you done?

Re: ...oops... by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 22:22:00 UTC Reply

I like mini-mutts too, and I think the reasoning/appearance is perfect! Who ever makes up the OFU or does the first mission there, please take note, unless you think up something better. ^^

I've not read Percy Jackson, the only person I know that has was sorely disappointed, though I can't at the moment recall what their problem with it was, so I kind of stayed away from them.

That makes three for mini-mutts. by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-15 02:15:00 UTC Reply

About Percy Jackson: Maybe they wanted them to be like the movie, because the Percy Jackson movie was nothing like the books. (Most fans, even those who saw the movie first, agree that the books are better.) Basically, if you don't know, they're similar to Harry Potter, only with Greek mythology, and, well, differences. Percy Jackson is a modern-day demigod, and the gods and monsters of Greek mythology live in modern-day America. Hilarity ensues as we learn that the Bermuda Triangle is a hotspot of monster activity, that Medusa sells statuary, that Zeus wears a pinstripe suit, and how other gods and monsters adapted through the ages. The books are fun and clever, and I highly recommend them.

Sounds interesting by Myrddin on 2013-02-15 19:09:00 UTC Reply

Hmm, well they sound interesting, I may have to look into them after all. All I know is that she was reading the books first, and was highly disappointed for some reason. Since her's is an opinion I can generally trust on such matters, I never bothered to pick them up. ^^

I second mini-mutts. by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-14 17:14:00 UTC Reply

According to the mini page, creation of minis is reserved for the creator of the OFU for that fandom or for the first person to write missions in that continuum. But I feel that a vote on the Board would do just as well. Maybe I'll start a thread.
As to crossovers: I only say that because by the end, it seemed like she needed someplace to relax and get her sanity back before going back into society, if she should go back into society at all. So many of her friends had died, and she went through so much. I think if Katniss promised not to go back to her male friends, Artemis would let her in. Also, I feel like Thalia and Luke had some feelings for each other, and Artemis still let Thalia in.
This also could be my "Team Katniss" stance - I never could decide who she should be with, so I decided she should be single, at least for a while. Single + Archery Skills made me think of the Hunters.

Re: I second mini-mutts. by Myrddin on 2013-02-14 22:23:00 UTC Reply

I think if there is no OFU the author of the first mission has that privilege if I remember right. Though I too think a board vote might do the trick. :)

Welcome! by World-Jumper on 2013-02-13 02:52:00 UTC Reply

Ah, a newbie who has done the readings. And comes with gifts! Excellent. You'll go far here, kid. Now, as for your gift, you shall receive an ancient mosquito trapped in amber. But this is no ordinary insect trapped in ancient tree sap, no sirrie, this one has flown through several plot holes in it's time, so if you decide to go all Jurassic Park on us, you have no idea what you'll get. Or you can just look at it, whatever.

Re: Welcome! by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 04:09:00 UTC Reply

Thank you. ^^ I do try my best, and I find cookies with bits of chocolate in them are best. XD

Ooo, *evil scientist cackle* Ahem... I mean thank you very much it shall be well cared for. *checks to see no one is watching and runs off to find out what precisely will surface from the depths of the amber*

It may be a dragon, it may be a fae... by World-Jumper on 2013-02-13 04:20:00 UTC Reply

It may even be a Flower. It may be some unholy genetic hybrid of many creatures, but all I do know, it is definitely going to be interesting.

Re: It may be a dragon, it may be a fae... by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 04:24:00 UTC Reply

I'm quite sure I have no idea what you are talking about. :P It's as if you think I would break such a lovely gift to satisfy my own curiosity and the chance for a one of a kind pet!

(And I'll be sure to let everyone know what I find! When I totally don't break into it to see what sort of DNA it contains.)

Ahoy thar! by Tray-Gnome on 2013-02-13 02:41:00 UTC Reply

Welcome to the Board! I think we've talked in the Chat, but welcome all the same! Enjoy these gifts of a conical hat (it's made of duct tape!) and a tea biscuit!

I seem to remember you mentioning that you've read the Newbie FAQ, but just in case, it is found right here! http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:ForNewbies

Re: Ahoy thar! by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 04:02:00 UTC Reply

Ahoy hoy!
Either you're very good, or you got it right while thinking I was someone else. XD But you are right, I was lurking as Mnemosyne a couple three days ago I think it was now, and you did in fact strike up a conversation. :)

Ooo, *puts on hat and munches on the biscuit and a bit of that lovely Tabula Rasa cake* does it protect against mind-readers like its tinfoil relatives, or does it just make sure you're well put together and prepared for any situation? Or am I over thinking things and you just stole it from Red Green when his back was turned? :P

Thank you. ^^ I have read it, but I am also of the school of thought that if something is important, I would much rather be told or shown or directed to it multiple times instead of not at all.

Welcome, Myrddin! by Silken Dawn on 2013-02-13 02:06:00 UTC Reply

Ooh, the newbie comes bearing gifts! As you can see, we love newbies at the PPC.
Please have this Fluffy Wambler to welcome you to the board! Also, I have to say, I'm in pretty much the same boat as you about Harry Potter. I just kind of outgrew it some time ago. Weird how that happens sometimes, huh?
Hope to see you around!

Re: Welcome, Myrddin! by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 02:36:00 UTC Reply

Ooo, more fluffy things! Thank you. ^^

It's sad when I go back to things I loved as a child, and they are no longer what I remember. :/

Welcome! by Forestiger on 2013-02-13 00:15:00 UTC Reply

Welcome to the board! Here is my signature magic eggplant.

Re: Welcome! by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 00:55:00 UTC Reply

Ooo, thank you for the welcome, and the magic veggie ^^

Another newbie to love! by hermione of vulcan on 2013-02-12 23:27:00 UTC Reply

We've been getting a lot of new people lately. I'm going to run out of gifts! ;) Have a fluffy hat in the color/pattern of your choice.
Out of curiosity, what didn't you like about the last Harry Potter book?

Re: Another newbie to love! by Myrddin on 2013-02-13 00:49:00 UTC Reply

Yay! I do so love fluffy things ^_^

I just really disliked how she very neatly negated the entirety of the first six books with the last one, at least in my opinion ^^;

Hiya! by firemagic on 2013-02-12 23:03:00 UTC Reply

Welcome! Have some Tabula Rasa cake! It automatically changes to become the most delicious cake for whatever the situation is!

Re: Hiya! by Myrddin on 2013-02-12 23:16:00 UTC Reply

Thank you! I shall have to try some in many different situations :D

Hello, hello! by SeaTurtle on 2013-02-12 22:58:00 UTC Reply

Welcome the the Board! have some of my hydrophobic water to commemorate the event. Not technically matter, but isn't antimatter either. It's complicated.

Seeing as you've already read the Original Series, I guess that the only thing that I can give you is a link to the Constitution. Read it well!

And with that, you're all set. Have fun!

Re: Hello, hello! by Myrddin on 2013-02-12 23:08:00 UTC Reply

Ooo, that sounds interesting, thank you!

And thank you for the link, I actually made a point to read both that and the FAQ's before venturing onto the board ^^