concerns an adult man in his 20s and an adult woman who has become immortal ages ago, way before they meet.
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One of my ships by
on 2022-04-25 15:11:05 UTC
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-innocent voice- There were rails? (nm) by
on 2022-04-25 14:59:13 UTC
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Welcome to conversations in the PPC. {= ) (nm) by
on 2022-04-25 14:57:28 UTC
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This thread has officially gone off the rails. (nm) by
on 2022-04-25 14:55:59 UTC
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Christianne's like mid-20s or something when she and Eledhwen started dating. by
on 2022-04-25 14:53:21 UTC
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But in terms of development they'd known each other for several years before, and given how Beren and Luthien only knew one another for a year, I'd say E and C were going a bit slow haha
ETA: I have absolutely done squicky age gap, though, when I wrote IAHF. Jen was like 16/17 when she got with Mr Allen/Hugh's secretary, who's... idk, anime ages. But shrug emoji I was also that age when I wrote it so I thought I was Very Mature!
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Among several others. by
on 2022-04-25 14:26:51 UTC
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The key difference being that an adult elf and human are both at about the same stage of their lives. The simplest model of Elvish aging is that they reach adulthood at about the same rate as humans, and then just stop aging pretty much forever.
(Tolkien being Tolkien, It's More Complicated Than That, but for all of HQ's elves that's basically the situation.)
So an elf and an adult human are going to be, approximately, at equivalent points. Constance was about 23 when she and Dafydd got together; over on the canon side, Beren was about 32 when he met Luthien, while Tuor married Idril at age 30 (having arrived in Gondolin at 23). Aragorn fell in love with Arwen at 21, though he didn't do anything about it for a while. So yes, 20s-30s is about right for elf-human relationships.
(Given how ad-hoc my timelines have been, I live in fear of discovering I've accidentally made an icky age-gap relationship somewhere. Nothing's turned up yet, though.)
hS
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Depends. I think there might be such a pair somewhere in HQ. by
on 2022-04-25 13:29:09 UTC
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The Agents that I was asking for are (Probably, I'm not sure yet) 15 and 43. Just so you know.
In general, though, with elves and humans, I think that's okay..I believe that would apply to Agents Constance and Daffydd.
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Um...I guess. But your descriptions are getting a little weird. (nm) by
on 2022-04-25 12:15:17 UTC
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Oh of course by
on 2022-04-25 12:12:48 UTC
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But if all the parameters are correct there's nothing wrong with a few consensual platonic licks between coworkers.
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Squick. That's what's wrong with that particular pair doing so. by
on 2022-04-25 11:41:21 UTC
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I would do it with Agents that would be the right age, have interest in each other, etc.
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Whats wrong... by
on 2022-04-25 11:35:05 UTC
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With a few kisses between coworkers?
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I'm only doing that if my pairs would work together romantically. by
on 2022-04-25 11:22:22 UTC
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(So, definitely not my first planned one, where one partner is 30ish years older than the other. But maybe later pairs.)
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Also agreed. by
on 2022-04-25 10:47:55 UTC
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The two agents can be at odds with each other and dislike each other, sure, but "hate" implies that they outright sabotage the other and belittle them, in my eyes. And that does not a comedy make.
This, honestly, where I got stumped at in the begining. How can arguing be funny? It requires that both particapants not hate each other, of course! Just merely dislike.
That, I guess, is why I had a huge problem with writing K at first.
-kA
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Sleepy after having gone a-googling by
on 2022-04-25 05:29:08 UTC
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I like the description. (Haven't had a chance to read the fic yet, though) Ls, also sleepy. (It's way past his bedtime)
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Agreed. "Banter" is the right word. (nm) by
on 2022-04-25 05:27:37 UTC
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Come to think of it, a better word might be "banter." by
on 2022-04-25 04:56:06 UTC
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Since entertaining banter can occur between either friends or enemies.
It's not fun when both agents seriously hate each other, though. Crelmos and Teek, for example, just make me uncomfortable. Partly because Crelmos is actually evil. >.< (To the author's credit, she recognized the problem and got Teek a new partner.)
~Neshomeh
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I think the fic is gone. by
on 2022-04-25 04:43:52 UTC
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And I think it's been gone a long, long time. I tried searching the Sue's name, Ela Gwairoch. (Wind-horse? 'Kay.) The only hit I got was an entry in Limyaael's InsaneJournal from May 26, 2003, and there isn't even a link alongside the other links there.
(Side note: Some of you will remember Limyaael as the creator of the Mary Sue Classification System. Her journal contains the makings of that, some very interesting rants about a Master's-level feminism class, and, oh, the facts that she got a Master's degree in English and had already written several novels. I'm in awe.)
~Neshomeh read the mission, but then went a-Googling and is too sleepy to comment on it now.
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I liked it too. by
on 2022-04-25 02:58:25 UTC
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In fact, it's given me some ideas for my Agents!
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I may have read this? by
on 2022-04-25 02:53:20 UTC
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I DID read this! I know because I updated the PPC Manual page with this as a reference almost exactly two years ago. ^_^
But I only had the barest sense that maybe I had done that, so I read it again. I like it! It's unusual (that interviewer must be a retired agent, I guess?), but it's fun, and it does a good job of introducing us to Jasper and the weirdness of the PPC.
Likening it to the MIB is of course very apt. It reminds me that there isn't necessarily a contradiction between having close ties to World One and being something of an urban legend. Sure, regular people might sometimes hear about the PPC, but then one of three things happens: 1. They don't believe it exists, figure someone is having a laugh, and forget about it; 2. They do believe it exists and they join up; or 3. They do believe it exists, cause trouble, and end up neuralyzed.
I still think the PPC must do its best to avoid blatantly advertising its existence such as by introducing space-ships or unicorns to modern World One, but watching fanfiction sites for helpful
mission reportPPC fanfiction reviews? Placing the occasional want ad? Having a few *ahem* employment agents on the outside? Well, why not?And remember, Ranger's recruitment was "unprecedented." Nowadays we may read it as unprecedented because he was a badfic character, but I believe it was intended to be unprecedented because he was a fictional character. See also: Dr. Fitzgerald's shock at having a canon character in the Medical Department. See also: J&A being baffled at seeing an illithid at the barbecue. The idea of the PPC as a multiversal organization per se doesn't seem to have developed until TOS had been going for a bit and people like Architeuthis made the natural step from "has access to fictional worlds" to "is accessible from fictional worlds."
Point being, in the PPC's original conception, I believe all PPC agents were World One humans. And I'm not sure J&A agreed on the degree of wackiness to have in HQ, either—I think most of the strange stuff was Jay's idea. Notice how Acacia is sorta fed up when Jay starts going on about how "it's kind of a maze unless you haven't noticed"? It's like, in the RP, author!Acacia figured author!Jay was just being ridiculous, but then Jay took it absolutely literally and Acacia went along with it.
But I'm glad it turned out the way it did. Playing with phrases we take for granted and writing interactions between characters from different worlds are some of my favorite things about the PPC setting. ^_^
~Neshomeh
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Well, others have made points about how Agent pairs can work with or without bickering. (nm) by
on 2022-04-25 01:46:02 UTC
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No problem. (nm) by
on 2022-04-25 01:40:20 UTC
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