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I think this was a good character piece, and as best as I can tell the NSFW bits work in context towards the overall goal here. I'm glad things are looking up for Derik.

So yeah, I can see why you'd waffle on posting this, and I'm glad you did anyway.

And yeah, that's definitely the angle I will use to approach it if I get around to writing it. Two characters whose relationship is already strong, and that are trying to take it to the next step because, even if neither of them is exactly sure about what to do, they trust each other and are trying their best to make it work. And it allows me to show some facets of them that I'm not usually able to.

As long as the emotions come through, that's the important part.

It's always good to know you appreciate the Pern-isms. ^_^ I almost missed the spot to use the simile with between (there was a cold, dark cellar instead), and I was so glad I caught that, haha.

I've heard the subsequent Fourth Wing books are not so good at the parts I liked about the first book, and I haven't gotten around to seeing for myself. The author apparently got started in the Romance genre, though, so it makes more sense to me that those scenes are there, and that (IMO) they don't suck on their own merits. I just wasn't convinced to care about Violet's love life that much. >.>

~Neshomeh

It may be a first, yeah. I can think of a couple interludes that get a bit heavy (including one I co-authored), but not without being comedically interrupted and/or faded to black before the serious "action" commences.

I will say, your choice of euphemism is very apt! At some point, I don't recall when or where, I came across the idea that sex scenes are basically just like fight scenes from a scene-crafting perspective. They're both action sequences that involve (generally) two characters doing stuff to each other's bodies, and it's not an accident that fights sometimes act as metaphors for sex, or by extension that fights sometimes turn into sex. {X D Good fight scenes can advance the plot, develop the characters, or both. So naturally, the same ought to go for sex scenes. The main difference is that one is usually antagonistic and the other usually isn't, but the distinction there is very fuzzy.

That's more or less the logic I was operating with. And it sounds like you got what I was going for character-wise, so yay!

I guess you could say this is my answer to Magical Healing Sex, haha. The sex part could only happen because the healing part had already begun, and things are not suddenly shiny and perfect afterward. As a matter of fact, It's Complicated™.

I agree that 99.9% of the time, the fact that "action" is happening is all that needs saying, and the details don't matter. Even here, I kept the "camera" relatively unfocused visually. I did relish the opportunity to subvert a couple of stereotypes about what kinds of women's bodies are considered attractive with Gall, though.

I would read that story about Sergio and Nikki, because I imagine that happens to PPC agents all the time. {X D My headcanon is that the kids who are raised in Headquarters/New Cal get a pretty robust sex-ed course precisely because it comes up so much in badfic, but that doesn't help the badfic recruits—or a lot of the World One recruits. And knowing how things work in theory doesn't necessarily translate to having an easy time of it in practice, anyway. But the characters' feelings for each other are the most important thing, IMO, and those can come through even if everything isn't perfect. Heck, maybe even moreso!

Cheers,

~Neshomeh

I don't have much to say on the writing front - I freely admit my head skimmed some of the longer "action" paragraphs (I've currently got the third Fourth Wing book out from the library, and the same happens there), but the emotions hit well throughout, and I really enjoyed Derik's extended metaphor on the tunnel-snake.

It's probably a good thing you wavered over it, not because of anything about the piece, but because of me. If you'd posted this in a time when I was actively writing for the PPC, I would definitely have taken it as a challenge, which is exactly what you're trying to avoid. :D

hS

Well, this is a first I guess. While I have read myself only a small portion of PPC stories, I believe this is the first one where the "action" is onscreen?

Regardless, I think you did a good job, and it really passed the message that things weren't, and couldn't be, smooth because Derik still has his Issues (and Gall, is, well, Gall. Not the subtlest creature out there). The prose was a bit purple IMHO here and there, but it could be me - I tend to end up being a bit beige myself. And, besides, even the purpler pieces weren't purple enough to be distracting. Definitely no Urple there!

I believe this piece existing is good food for thought: since we mock badfics, many of which include M-rated content (I missioned a couple "action-y" badfics myself), and we counter that with our own writing... why should we stop short of making good M-rated content ourselves when we strive to make good content of everything short of it? Of cours,e we shouldn't turn the Prime multiverse in Luxury's one of origin XD! But in the PPC, we mostly deal with wish-fullfillment "action" in badfics, and in a lot of canon media is mostly there for the fanservice. But that's not the only way "action" can be used. Yours is a piece in which the "action" actually shows us things about the characters that wouldn't be as easy to show otherwise, meaning that "action" can be used as a storytelling tool!

I admit that I did that myself in The World without Authors, since Nikki doing it with Syaoron and Sergio with Ami was pretty good way to show the current mental place and issues of the three core cast characters. I stopped short of the "action", though, as the leadup and the aftermath were already passing on everything I wanted to show - no need for the reader to know which positions they used or what their naughty bits looked like, only that Nikki, Sergio and Ami were "lost" and doing mistakes.

All in all, while you broke the taboo, so to speak, I don't think we'll suddenly get a ton of PPC smut. Like all tropes, it has its specific uses, and there aren't many cases in which the "action" is the best, or only, way to tell you something about the characters. I might follow the lead someday, as one of the plotbunnies I had rejected in the past was making a part-comedy, part-hearwarming piece about Sergio and Nikki trying to figure things out due to their PPC service meaning they knew very well what not to do but had little clue about what to do in their first intimate night.

If I do, though, it will be nowhere soon as I have a lot of stuff I'm trying to finish first, and that while I'm still dealing with finishing up work in my new house while moving stuff out of the old one...

To quote from my end notes: I sat on this piece for absolute ages. My first-draft doc was created December 31, 2017, and the GDoc for beta-reading was created August 29, 2018. And then... I debated, and waffled, and second-guessed, and chickened out for, uh, seven years almost exactly, wow.

Because this is rated M/R for adult content, and this is my first venture into that territory without the buffer of my Badfic Games alter-ego, and it's not a typical PPC story—nor should it be. It's a story I wanted to write for these characters specifically, but that doesn't make it a good idea generally. Just so that's clear.

However, using a nifty CSS trick, I have hidden the naughties with an expandable/collapsible box, so you can skip 'em if you'd rather. I can't replicate that on AO3, so this one is only available on my site.

Without further ado: "Reveille," in which Derik gets his groove back again and Gall gets what she's always wanted.

~Neshomeh

I'll be in the corner panicking now.

Honestly I don't remember. Maybe tv tropes?

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Welcome to the PPC! Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy with IRL things. Midterms and all that. Anyway, how's it going? What fan-ish things do you enjoy?

Welcome to our little corner of the internet, where we hang out and play games more than we actually make our OCs do their jobs. How’d you find your way here, if you don’t mind me asking?

Been aware of this community for a while, finally decided to take a closer look! Hope I wont be too much of a bother. If anyone doesnt mind, can someone link a discord invite? Thank you.

As mentioned during its start last October, Neshomeh and I have a co-MST of the Legendary Badfic Blood Raining Night, which is now done. It can be found here. Go check it out! Though be warned, many of these posts do tend to run quite long (8-14K words).

--Ls

It's kinda redundant to list the badfic multiple times under each canon. Even if each one is relevant, you're listing the same thing a bunch of times, I'd probably say it's unnecessary.

--Ls' two cents

And oh, look, there it is under Killed Badfic (Crossovers) ... There's an argument here for listing crossovers under each applicable continuum, not just separating them out. Could get messy when it comes to megacrossovers or confusing when it comes to in-name-only crossovers, but... maybe worth it? Thoughts?

~Neshomeh

More specifically, the second paragraph here was copied verbatim, and there was a short section on webcomics that might not have been copied. The mission wasn't linked, but I could find it here.

--Ls

Also, I checked the Killed Badfic (Video Games) page before posting, and there isn't a TF2 category there. However, I'm still not surprised there's a mission I wasn't aware of. I feel like it's the sort of thing that could appear in crossover fics, too.

~Neshomeh

I'm unsure how much this really matters in the grand scope of things, but to my knowledge we have one TF2 mission on record: the last one written by SkarmorySilver. Was that one linked on the page or was it just a flat copy/paste from TV Tropes?

Noting that you mentioned the TF2 page was just cribbed from TVTropes, I went ahead and deleted it. We don't need a copy of a TVTropes page on a canon that doesn't have anything relevant to the PPC yet. If/when you find (or write, in the more distant future perhaps) something relevant to the PPC, then creating a non-plagiarised page for it would be perfectly fine, like Nesh said.

I don't know that you need to write a badfic report, but you could reiterate what you find bad about that fic and why here on the Board.

--Ls

We prefer if people don't create continuum pages unless there is already something PPC-relevant to say about it. Has there already been a mission there? Is there an agent from that universe? Has the PPC significantly interacted with TF2 at all? If not, then the PPC Wiki does not need a page about it.

This is especially premature since you don't have Permission yet (unless I've missed something), and the journey from getting it to actually completing a mission may be longer than you think.

Please take what should be at least your second look at the Wiki Rules before you continue editing. Be sure you have read them thoroughly and understand them. Thanks!

~Neshomeh

Oh, and if you’re confused, I used to go by pepekyky. I didn’t change my fandom name, though. (Oh yeah, I should write a Badfic report)

Welcome to the "gap moe" trope again 🤣 It refers to "cute" characters whose cuteness derives from the utter mismatch ("gap") between their appearance and behavior/personality.