Subject: My jury is still out on this.
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Posted on: 2017-05-25 16:10:00 UTC

I don't think the permaban angle was made explicit either when zdimensia was banned nor when she reappeared. I don't like the way she came back, but I also don't feel that retroactively imposing a permaban that wasn't clear at the time is... fair.

I also think - know - that zdimensia wasn't banned for being unable to listen; she was banned for racism and pro-Nazi statements. Neither of those have shown up anywhere near Bramandin, so I don't feel good about the idea of saying she's 'done it again', when she hasn't. (I know you haven't said that; I'm just explaining my thought process.)

That said... I don't like Bramandin's behaviour in this thread. I don't like her behaviour in the Iximaz thread. I don't like her behaviour in the chat logs with Neshomeh, and I don't like her behaviour in her two failed Permission threads.

She makes all the right noises for someone who is trying desperately to understand why people are mad at them, but when people sit down yet again and explain it... she keeps making those same noises.

I don't know. It just feels like some of the ban suggestions across the thread are less 'ban her for doing bad stuff', and more 'ban her for not taking it back very well'.

Let me be clear: I don't think Bramandin fits into this community at all. I think she should take the advice she was offered right from the start of this thread, accept that she's just not meshing with the PPC, and leave. But I don't know that I'm able to vote for us forcing her to do so.

hS

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