First, I want everyone to know that I don't think hS was wrong to raise his concern, even though I disagreed with his interpretation. It would have been better if whoever went to him had spoken to Quincy and Larfen first, and it would have been better if hS had spoken to Quincy and Larfen before bringing it to the Board. However, it is important to raise concerns when you see them so that they can be resolved, whether that's by putting them in a new light or by corrective action taken, or even both. Let's please acknowledge that he acted with the best interests of the community in mind, of his own volition, and not as an attack.

Second, it is always okay to remove yourself from a stressful or dangerous situation for your own health. It's been expressed to me that what's been said by me and others about Iximaz in this discussion might convey the opposite message, and that is not what I intended at all. No one is obliged to stay in a situation that makes them uncomfortable.

~Neshomeh

(This topic being discussed in a separate thread from the amendments seems like a good idea to me, even if it was an accident.)

I think I've seen all the apologies I need to see except possibly one: whoever felt the need to fan the flames of Ix's trust issues by telling them people were discussing them in the chat. That's the one piece of this that doesn't make any sense to me at all, and I'd love an explanation.

I had a lot that I wanted to say about a lot of things, but it got late, and my brain isn't working so well. But in light of everything that's been discussed today, I do wish to suggest the following:

- Iximaz stays entirely out of the Discord. They are avoiding the place for a reason, and I suspect it's a good one. Let's make it a clean break. People can check the Board for new posts themselves, or someone else can carry the news in.

- Nobody reports on what goes on in the Discord to Iximaz. They are avoiding the place for a reason, and I suspect it's a good one. Respect that.

- Going forward, nobody in the PPC Discord discusses Iximaz at all. They are avoiding the place for a reason, and I suspect it's a good one. Respect that. If you have something to say to or about them, good or bad, do it on the Board. (And btw, do try not to discuss anyone behind their back. If you have a problem with someone, tell them to their face [following the Constitution, of course]. If you have good thoughts about someone, tell them that to their face, too!)

- PMs and emails are an entirely separate thing and are not under discussion at this time. We cannot presume to have any control over what people talk about with their friends in private. HOWEVER, if bad things are happening to you in private, do please come forward to someone. We really don't want anyone suffering in silence.

That's all I've got for now. Let me just stress that this is a proposal, not a dictation. If you find it lacking or unhelpful in any way, please say so, and we as a community will find a better way together.

~Neshomeh

I'm honestly crushed that this... whatever it is... happened. I feel like what I said, if it was out of line, is nowhere NEAR Board-level. That being said, I still don't really feel like I went out of line, especially considering what I posted after the controversial stuff. What it looks like to me (though I am admittedly rather biased, and I feel the need to specify that I AM NOT REGARDING THIS AS THE UNIVERSAL TRUTH, because apparently expressing my opinion/discomfort sics hS on me??? Maybe that was a bit unnecessary but that's how this whole ordeal has made me feel, dang it) is that y'all saw me saying something 'against' Iximaz and decided immediately that I had to be punished for it. Again, I’m not saying that’s what happened, I’m saying it’s how it make me feel. Because I, too, have feelings. I'm legitimately scared, now, that this will happen again, that I'll be thrown onto the Board without even having gotten a warning. It is not as if I always do this! And the way hS just went after me... I don't know if I feel welcome on the Board anymore, and I certainly don't feel welcome on the chat knowing that somebody was there and decided to indict me without even talking to me about it first. To that end, it pains me, but I think I'm just going to have to take another hiatus! And whoever reported me to hS... next time, JUST TELL ME. I SWEAR I AM NOT EVIL. I DO NOT WANT TO HURT ANYBODY. SURE, I PROBABLY OVERREACTED??? BUT I WOULD HAVE LISTENED IF YOU WOULD HAVE JUST COME TO ME. All you've accomplished by doing this instead is upset *everybody* over an issue that could've been resolved through a quick PM. Unless your intent is to harm me?? In which case, congratulations, you've succeeded!

I just wanted to come back and be with my friends. And then... THIS. Maybe it's my fault? I don't know, I don't really *feel* like I've done anything egregious. Maybe I'm paranoid. I told myself I've been overreacting, but as the day goes on, I just get more and more sad. But... I can't believe this happened. I don’t even feel like I did anything??? I don't know! I'm scared this will happen again and I don't know if I could handle it. I hate this, all of it. It’s making me wish I never joined the PPC. I mean, can I not also be upset/hurt/angry over what happened, or is that a premium right reserved for those whose names are Iximaz??? Please, somebody. I just want to know why something of this magnitude happened over something so small.

>An apology for insinuating the entire chat hates them/doesn't care about them/... is in order, from the looks of it.

Thing is, from the logs, it looks like Quince went to great lengths to not insinuate that. An apology still might be in order, but I think that's worth noting.

It was never my intent to suggest that Major Drama was happening. I wanted to highlight some relatively low-level behaviour that I found dismaying and not appropriate, to try and encourage the people involved to stop before it could become Major Drama.

I apologise for implying that Major Drama had occured. It was never my intent. I would appreciate someone laying out precisely how I implied that, so I can learn from it.

hS