Subject: Bleh. Sorry for the italics. (nm)
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Posted on: 2008-09-02 00:24:00 UTC
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OT: Why do straight women write femslash? by
on 2008-09-02 00:23:00 UTC
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You know... by
on 2008-09-03 05:06:00 UTC
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I've been puzzling over my own shipping preferences ever since I noticed that slash ticked me off, but femslash didn't. And from there, I can only bring myself to read femslash, not write it. Interesting double standards, aye?
I think it's because females feel more comfortable with their own bodies. So when they read femslash, they understand what the author might be going at in the writing. But hey, I don't know...I'm no sexuality expert. -
Well, who is? I mean, we can only ever know one gender: by
on 2008-09-03 07:11:00 UTC
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Our own. I don't know about women feeling more comfortable with their bodies - there's certainly enough "This Is Pretty And You Don't Match Up" fashion around - but how can any of us really compare with another person? It involves getting completely inside their heads.
That said, it's a good theory. Cheers! -
Mmm... all good points. To clarify... by
on 2008-09-02 04:52:00 UTC
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If it makes you feel better... by
on 2008-09-02 05:58:00 UTC
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I can't understand how anyone could not get slash. ^_^" If you don't like the romance genre, then that's fine by me, but I don't get why someone would enjoy het pairings but not slash ones (unless said slash pairing breaks up their het OTP- I understand that all too well).
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Actually, that's just the thing... by
on 2008-09-02 10:18:00 UTC
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Sorry if you misunderstood me. by
on 2008-09-03 04:30:00 UTC
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I didn't mean you were homophobic or anything like that- prejudice in the real world and prejudice in what you like reading are two very different things.
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I didn't mean it that way! by
on 2008-09-03 07:33:00 UTC
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I was just going off on a tangent; it wasn't a reaction to anything you said. Sorry for the mix-up!
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a possible test? by
on 2008-09-02 15:18:00 UTC
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Honestly, though, I don't think that's it.
You could test the theory by watching Torchwood. Jack and Ianto are definitely a canonical couple, if that scene in "Adrift" is anything to go by.
And, if we're being honest, when it comes to romance fic I must admit to being somewhat heterophobic. It just... doesn't maintain my interest in the slightest. I'll have a ponder about why, in case that helps shed some light. -
That's a good idea. by
on 2008-09-02 15:38:00 UTC
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I think the best moments for Jack/Ianto are the kiss in "They Keep Killing Suzie" (series 1) and Jack asking Ianto on a date in "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" (series 2).
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Dumbledore/Grindelwald, for instance? by
on 2008-09-03 00:19:00 UTC
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(I don't exactly have access to Torchwood...)
I'll look around for a good fic like that, then. It's definitely a good idea; thanks for suggesting it! I really don't know how I'll react. I'll keep to a midrange rating, though.
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There's nothing wrong with that. by
on 2008-09-02 12:54:00 UTC
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Everyone has their squick. My dad can't stand slash either. I've got plenty of things that make me go "Ew." I don't think you're a homophobe just because of that.
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I agree by
on 2008-09-02 23:56:00 UTC
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Well, I didn't mean you guys; PPCers are very understanding by
on 2008-09-03 00:24:00 UTC
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unless you're already... by
on 2008-09-03 00:27:00 UTC
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... of an introspective and delusional turn of mind, I don't think fanfic will ever really replace an actual relationship, I mean, most people are fully aware that the characters are fictional :)
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True. by
on 2008-09-06 18:41:00 UTC
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Absolutely. Fanfic can't replace any relationship, and is only really wish-fulfillment. But even though I understand that, I still wonder what would happen if I went to Narnia and got Caspian to fall in love with me or something.
But then I'd be a Mary Sue, stealing him away from Ramandu's daughter and Susan. And I'd have to PPC myself. -
Well, there's never anything wrong fantasising by
on 2008-09-12 06:42:00 UTC
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But what about the fangirls? by
on 2008-09-12 23:26:00 UTC
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I don't think THEY would have enough self restraint to not glomp. And I think the theory was that a fangirl created the multiverse's first (serious) Mary Sue.
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... true. by
on 2008-09-13 10:46:00 UTC
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But then, I think the Universe / Multiverse has more sense than to let a fangirl anywhere in the same continuumn as her lust object. *grin*
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There's a point there... by
on 2008-09-14 00:23:00 UTC
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...unless the multiverse's deity/deities/what-have-you were feeling particularly mischevious, or maybe they decided to get roaring drunk, or...whatever.
But if they are sane, they generally wouldn't do that. Unless the canonical in question was protected by an OFU, or a member of the Canon Protection Initiative. *grin* -
Most. Cue the Suethors... by
on 2008-09-03 07:31:00 UTC
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And then, of course, there's also the lack of physical presence, which is rather important to many people. ;)
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Another theory... by
on 2008-09-02 02:25:00 UTC
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It could be them writing what they know. After all, for all that we've taken sex ed, we do know our own bodies better than those of the opposite gender. It may be easier for females (regardless of sexual preference) to visualize what two women would do than what two men (or even a man and a woman) would do.
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Re: OT: Why do straight women write femslash? by
on 2008-09-02 02:01:00 UTC
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I think it's more that they write any pairing... by
on 2008-09-02 01:55:00 UTC
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... that they find interesting. I can't really comment, even though I like slash and femslash, because I'm bi. I have a straight friend who quite likes m/m but gets squicked at f/f. Maybe the straight women who write femslash just see a specific pairing and think "Oh, they are so together." Then they write it, not because it's hot, but because it's a romantic pairing that they find interesting. You don't have to find something "hot" to enjoy writing it. I mean, look at all the SyaoSaku fans. I doubt many of them see their relation as anything other than "omg so cute".
Most likely though is that they're just open-minded and mature enough to not let something like sexuality get in the way of writing a fun pairing. -
*ponders* by
on 2008-09-02 00:39:00 UTC
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*shrugs* by
on 2008-09-02 00:33:00 UTC
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For me, writing any relationship is a progression from what potential I can see for it in canon. If I see potential for a f/f sexual relationship, then that's what I'll write. If I feel up to writing smut for it, then why shouldn't I? It has nothing to do with my own personal sexuality.
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Bleh. Sorry for the italics. (nm) by
on 2008-09-02 00:24:00 UTC
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