Subject: Butting in
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Posted on: 2013-08-15 17:04:00 UTC

Just to speak on behalf of ardent Tolkien fans who haven't read much outside the "big three" of The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and The Silmarillion (though I've recently made a start on Unfinished Tales).

At first, I was a bit overawed by the people like hS who know more about Middle-earth than I do, since my knowledge at the time was ridiculously in-depth by most "normal" people's standards. For the purposes of PPC missions, though, you don't really need to know more than what you can reasonably expect the fic's author to know. If the fic is based solely on the movies, you only need to know the movies to know what's reasonable in the movieverse. If they're blending book and movie canon and clearly making references to things that come from The Silmarillion, then it's acceptable to use LotR and Silm knowledge in critiquing it.

It shouldn't be acceptable to expect the average fic writer to have read The Silmarillion and the Histories and the Tales and and and. We do sometimes get a little carried away when it comes to the things we're passionate about, though.

Anyway, the point is, you can be a fan in whatever scope works for you. It's not anyone's place to judge your fanhood based on what works have or haven't been available to you for whatever reason. If you're gonna write a fic centering on an Elven marriage, though, it does behoove you to learn exactly how Elven marriages work first. {= )

And, to say something about the actual conversation, I never got the impression from Silm that Elves could reincarnate willy-nilly. Luthien (and apparently Glorfindel? I thought that was one of those eternal debates, like Balrogs and wings) was the exception, and she only got to come back on the condition that she would now be mortal (although still very long-lived). For everyone else, their spirits continue to exist in Mandos, and they might get to have bodies again when the world is remade, but in 99% of cases, they only get one body, and if that's destroyed, it's game over and they're stuck on the sidelines until the end of the world.

I do definitely remember some talk about marrying people off to secure alliances, too. I don't recall if anything came of it, but it was certainly discussed, by Elves, as a thing that could happen.

~Neshomeh

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