Subject: There's a million of 'em.
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Posted on: 2012-08-23 01:58:00 UTC
Whether Mary Sues are awful constructs of bad writing or unfairly demonized by prudish gatekeepers is an ongoing debate that pops up here every so often. A lot of people (not including Suethors) are not big fans of groups like the PPC.
I won't touch the fair use - making money off of fanfiction is something that I highly doubt will ever be legal (without the author's permission, or the expiration of copyright, or what have you), no matter what is claimed about the story.
But the Mary Sue, in some ways, and to quite a few people, is in fact seen as a symbol of empowerment. In some ways, I actually quite agree - not in the fanfic scenario, so much, but in original fiction. Let's try this one: a wealthy girl is orphaned at a very young age, and grows up to become one of the world's most unstoppable assassin-type vigilantes. She can stop any villain, and best any one of her teammates (with varying degrees of ease), her male opponents tend to fall in love with her, none of her female opponents can stand up to her for more than a story arc before getting curb-stomped, and in general, anyone who dislikes her is Bad, Very Bad Indeed* (and probably corrupt). She is the Best At Everything; her civilian alter-ego is rich, beautiful, and all the guys at every party line up to be with her... but she also has a Dark and Tortured side, which mainly comes out at night with her alter-ego. Her friends are devoted to her, no matter how badly she might treat them, and in the end, she is (almost) always proven to be right.
The Sue in question, of course, is gender-flipped Batman. I have exaggerated a bit to make a point, but do you see where I'm coming from? In mass media, male characters are 'allowed' to be over-the-top and perfect; female characters who do the same are Sues. Batman is, admittedly, a very over-the-top example. Let me point out this.
A blurb of a much longer piece. (The latter contains some NSFW language.) This just about makes my point. Not that a guy wrote a bad book. Not even that a guy wrote a bad book and got critical acclaim for it! But that I think it is pretty clear that if you just flipped the protagonist's gender... he'd be A SUUEEE OMG. (Like Eragon! Or, hell, Bella Swan!)
I am one of the weird PPCers who thinks Sues and Stus can be done really well - even fanfic Stus/Sues, on very, very rare occasions. I've had people argue before that if a character is written well, they're not a Sue. But honestly, I see that exception applied a lot more often to male characters. IIRC, people have called Alanna, of Tamora Pierce's Tortall canon, a Sue. I haven't really seen that applied to Harry Potter - though he has the same sort of striking eyes, supernatural-ish help, and accomplishes feats of great heroism etc, etc.
So... no, I don't think Mary/Marty Sue/Stus are really good things. But I don't think there's anything wrong with people using Mary Sues as a tool of empowerment, provided the characters are well done. One of the criticisms I've seen of Sue-hating is that the biggest beef seems to be, in many cases, femininity. For example, in A Song of Ice and Fire, Arya gets hella love from the fandom. (As she should!) But Sansa gets vitriolic straight-up hatred from the fandom - and, leaving aside her childish shallow issues (which, c'mon, look at the later books), seems to be simply because she's a girl. And unlike Arya, she doesn't try to be a boy. She does girly things. She's good at them. She's pretty, and she believes in the fairy tales involving a handsome and chivalrous knight, and for this she gets crazy amounts of hate.
It's not cool. And I don't think there's anything wrong with writing Wicked Awesome Girly-girl Feminine Characters who are Totally Great At Everything. Like male characters who are Wicked Awesome and The Manliest Ever and Totally Great At Everything, they need to have characterization. If they've got that, we've got no beef with them, I think.
(And, you know, spelling/grammar/etc. But that's what syntax-betas are for!)
*Depending on the writer, of course, as with most of these things - Nolan's Batman is a good one to substitute, here.