Subject: My opinion
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Posted on: 2012-03-14 02:51:00 UTC
It started as a fanfic. However, they changed the details and it got published, so now it is a separate work.
It has become its own universe. You could spork the original fanfiction, but not the work it later became.
That is how I see it.
If you didn't make it up--you didn't even make the characters up--why are you making money off of it?
See, this is my problem with the whole post-Ludlum Bourne thing. At least that guy can write a bit will, though! *head shake*
. . . but ethically, it really makes me squirm. Honestly, I hope she takes the opportunity of the exposure to junk the 50 Shades 'verse and write something completely original. Unclean, unclean!
So there goes that. If she had scruples about it I doubt she would've tried to put it in print as an original in the first place.
Not that it matters much.
The thing sucks, but Phobos did say it does have it's own universe, ripped off as it is.
On the other hand, it's a bad story based off a badfic. I can't see how this could get worse.
All of those not-sherlock-holmes stories that popped up after the short stories became popular. Just that this is not-Twilight.
...Skeletor might FINALLY get to be a competent villain and do the universe a favor.
But since it is published and intended to be read as its own universe, it must be protected like any other stand-alone 'verse.
That doesn't stop it from being ridiculous and possibly on the same level as Twilight, however.
Really? Just...really? How can this happen! I'm...I'm just going to go crawl into a corner and cry now.
It started as a fanfic. However, they changed the details and it got published, so now it is a separate work.
It has become its own universe. You could spork the original fanfiction, but not the work it later became.
That is how I see it.
IMO, it's an original universe, albeit not a good one. And now I'm seriously considering sporking it.
Seriously, though, I'm starting the project this evening. This thing needs to go bye-bye.
Guys, I'm afraid I've had to change my mind. I just finished rereading the book . . . and I can't do this. I'm not nearly a good enough sporker to manage this steaming dump of a book.
The worst part? Some of it is okay. Competent, even. But the hero . . . the heroine . . . oh, God, I want to murder them both and then kill myself to make sure I never write a book like this.
If anyone else wants to spork it, feel free. I'm out.
*hugs* If I get access to a bookstore in the near future, I may just see if I can get a copy, should I still feel so inclined, and then I will spork the bleep out of it. *hugs again*
Personally, I think that it's Twilight knockoff...
Yeah, I think it would best if we treated this as a badfic and sporked this thing to the moon.
If it started as a fanfic, then it's a fanfic. Anything written based on it is fanfic.
Not so much a mission, but just a "TM Reads" type of thing, probably on LJ. Believe me, I'd rather have Jay and Acacia in on this, but I don't think we're ever going to see them back on active duty. :( Ah, well.
And yeah, it does say a lot, doesn't it? All you have to do is file the serial numbers off Twilight and you get something that's virtually indistinguishable from any other bad piece of fiction.
It doesn't matter if we have to search every single boarder's email list to find a way, even indirect, to contact them.
This snippet has to be made canon.
It's been ten years, and the poor things still can't escape...
hS
. . . I am of the lady persuasion. :) Thanks! I'll post a link as soon as I have the first part of the sporking completed.
And that's a lovely notion.
I can't WAIT to see the sporking. Though I prolly will not read all the smutty bits. >.> BDSM = not fun, and I usually don't read smut at the best time.
Oh, thanks. I just keep getting bored of it. ^^ Malk!Alice is fun, but I can't write all the Cullens, especially since they're all 1) evil, 2) insane, or 3) tortured!antiheroes. (What? It's the World of Darkness.)
I'm considering doing it as an RP.
. . . I've had to change my mind. Thanks for your encouragement, but I can't do this. *facepalm* BRB, reading Pratchett now.
Heh, I've been here for five years and I still don't know the answer to questions like these. I doubt we'll ever reach a solid conclusion.
And you have an interesting point. Fanfiction occupies a very different niche from published fiction; it presumes a certain level of familiarity with a preestablished setting, for starters, and is much more of a personal exercise in indulgence. (I say this as someone with eleven years of fanwriting under my belt. XD) Stripping fanfic and publishing it as original fic may not be illegal, but it's questionable and ethically unsound.
...obviously the answer is "change all the names".
Minor thing with the Dear Author review: sometimes Kindle just randomly italicises whole pages for no reason. I don't know why. If it appears in the PRINT edition, then yeah, we have a problem.
Also, I did post a thread a while back about fanfics of fanfics. Can't remember what happened to it.
You did? Oh, I'm sorry! I went looking for other threads like this but didn't find yours, so I thought it hadn't been discussed yet.
And I don't know if it appears in print; I only have the ebook version. Which is bad enough.
A badfic of a badfic? Is there a word for that? Badficfic, perhaps?
I know, it's like Moebius Fic or something. Or inbreeding. If books were families, the Twilight bloodline would be the House of Hapsburg.
Number one, they were all spawned from the Vampire Lestat, and then they interbred to the point where they're all cousins.
Number two- Victoria's kids had hemophilia. All these fics seem to hemorrhage sparkles.
... the Grandmother Of Vampdom? Or would that 'honour' go to Bella?
(And now I'm picturing a massive crossover where Bella marries her grandchildren off to every vampire she can come up with... oh dear)
hS
If it makes money, it's made.
The Whedonites hate EVERYONE. xD Why am I not surprised? XDD
I think by the end of it, it would be Twihraka and its knockoffs versus EVERYONE ELSE.
I almost feel sorry for the Twipires.
I would really like to read a full story.
I had a LOT of fun writing it. :)
If hS is up for it, I'd LOVE to write about the Vampire Wars. :D
... you don't require me to know anything about vampires. :P
(All right, more precisely: I can do Twilight, Night Watch, Dresden Files and a vague outline of Buffy. After that I'm pretty scuppered. Oh, and Discworld, if they count)
hS
... expect me to take it at all seriously.
hS
... who allies with Twiglet? Other than 50 Shades of Ripoff, naturally.
hS
From what I can tell... Vampire Diaries and Anita Blake would probably ally. And Anita Blake is a canon Mary Sue, which would make ALL their lives SO much harder. *has not read the books, due to ENITIRELY too much shmex, but...*
... I don't think even my WORST SUE that I wrote at the getgo is that bad.
Armor that...?! How would that even...
Wow.
Hmm.
What does PSA mean?
Good thing I studied French too at elementary and middle school.
Don't expect me to be able to speak it, though.