Subject: Re: *jumps into the discussion*
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Posted on: 2010-01-09 01:59:00 UTC
Well, theys hould stop it, because it drives me up the wall, and when I rule the world said people will be first up against the wall.
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Mission plug by
on 2010-01-05 10:38:00 UTC
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Tasmin and Allison are sent on a mission into an NCIS badfic where they find a shocking Sue (duh) and Allison makes a startling discovery about Tasmin's origin.
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You've reminded me... by
on 2010-01-07 11:47:00 UTC
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...that I need to start watching NCIS again. Amazing show.
Poor Tony. I used to hate him when I first started watching the show, but he's grown on me a heck of a lot since then. ALSO KATE WHY? I didn't even recognise her as Kate. I had to blink at the name for ages to convince myself that this was not a random OC who'd been shoved into the office. And McGee seems to have been turned into a walking plot device. What did he ever do to deserve that?
And... you know what, if I point out everything that annoyed me about the badfic we'd be here all day. You've already done an excellent job of putting together a charge list. :]
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WHY IS A TWO-YEAR-OLD READING DEEP SIX.
Okay, that was the last thing, I swear. But good lord, there is so much bad in this fic. And I'm only halfway through the mission as I post this comment.
In conclusion, I fangirl Tamsin's arsenic tangent. -
Thank you for your comments by
on 2010-01-07 18:48:00 UTC
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Yay, someone's fangirling one of my agents.
You'll probably be pleased to know that there is a story arc in the badfic that I have chosen to ignore completely. Things were bad enough without it.
In case you'd like to do some additional hair pulling: in this arc, Abby and McGee are married, but currently separated because McGee slept with another woman. One who looked like the Sue, or was Jeanne (Tony didn't want to do the undercover mission). -
Oooooh. by
on 2010-01-06 17:55:00 UTC
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You did a mission in a fandom I know! Yay!
NCIS Sue. Not yay. {= P
I agree that Gibbs is one of those characters who's very likely to resist the Suefluence, like Lord Elrond. I wouldn't be surprised if he was acting strange in that fic because he knew something was very, very wrong. And what a Sue! Was she using a checklist for how to be the Suiest NCIS Sue possible? I'm glad she's gone. It is unfortunate that your agents deemed the daughter unsalvageable, though.
One point: the expression is seeing as/that/how, not seen. People slur it to sound like "seen" a lot, but it isn't. I think you used it about three times in the mission, so you might want to go back and fix it.
So... is Tasmin from an NCIS fic, or is she just a student in the L. Jethro Gibbs Distance-Learning Course for How To Treat Your Co-Workers?
~Neshomeh, who might have to go hunting for NCIS crossovers to kill now. -
random OT by
on 2010-01-07 01:34:00 UTC
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Ooo, Nesh, darling, can I use that as a springboard for a discussion?
I keep seeing being as.
Does it make you want to eviscerate people, or is that just me?
Seen as is... grammatically horrible. Being as is... I can't even think through how it's meant to work. But is crops up everywhere. Why? -
Augh, yes! by
on 2010-01-07 01:58:00 UTC
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I've seen and heard being that, too.
What the hell is wrong with since or because, I ask you? Are these new expressions mutations of them, or are they just out of style?
... To reel back my ire and think about it calmly, I suppose there is a place for being as in some kind of metaphorical construct. "The man, being as a squirrel, frolicked merrily in the orchard." Or something. But I'm sure it could be done better even in that case. Is it passive voice? It sounds like passive voice; but I've always had trouble distinguishing it, so I'm not sure.
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Re: Augh, yes! by
on 2010-01-07 03:47:00 UTC
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But no, it'd be "the man, being as he was a squirrel, frolicked". When they mean seeing as, because seeing as means since, dammit!
No idea what voice it is. Will have to ponder that. It's a weird one, grammatically. -
And now the man IS a squirrel. by
on 2010-01-07 16:43:00 UTC
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Which is not what my sentence meant at all, passive voice or no.
Blargh! Mer! Gflurgh! Cthulhu ftaghn Rlyeh etc. etc.
~Neshomeh, who is certain she missed some Elder Evil Apostrophes in there... -
*jumps into the discussion* by
on 2010-01-08 08:49:00 UTC
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Every time I've seen "being as", I've mentally translated it as just "being [a thing], therefore...", for instance, "being a squirrel, therefore he's likely to eat nuts", but the as annoys the hell out of me. "Seeing as" is the same - I could accept "seeing that (he is a squirrel), and therefore...", but not as.
So, grr. As for the "why?", Pads, I'm going to blame it on slang mutation and sheer laziness. People pick up phrases without realising that they don't make sense and then just repeat them, like a broken photocopying machine. Grr. -
Re: *jumps into the discussion* by
on 2010-01-09 01:59:00 UTC
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Well, theys hould stop it, because it drives me up the wall, and when I rule the world said people will be first up against the wall.
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*dutifully lines up against the wall preemptively* by
on 2010-01-11 20:47:00 UTC
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It would be silly for me not to, as you've repeatedly told me off for using 'being as'.
*hangs head*
I have no idea where it came from or what it means, it just ... gets used. -
Agreed! by
on 2010-01-09 04:57:00 UTC
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Lined up and shot.
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like a broken record (nm) by
on 2010-01-08 15:49:00 UTC
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Thanks for the comments by
on 2010-01-06 22:56:00 UTC
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Have to look into the seen/seeing thing. I'm sure I've done it in other fics too, and I don't think any of my betas has ever mentioned it.
I created Tasmin before I had ever seen any NCIS, so any similarities with fictional people are purely coincidental. But it was a great moment when I heard that click in my head.
As for mini-Sue... I interrupted the story there, but a little later she gets herself kidnapped and turns out to be diabetic. She carried too much potential for drama.
Good luck with the crossovers.