Subject: Well, glittery pink blood. (nm)
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Posted on: 2009-04-29 23:20:00 UTC
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Sue Biology Question by
on 2009-04-29 13:53:00 UTC
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I was talking with Cassie, and the question of Sue organs came up. We know how a Sue looks externally. But, has anyone done an autopsy on a Sue? Are there any internal organs on a Sue? Or any extra ones? How is their brain chemistry different from normal ones?
Also, in the name of Agent Naomi, if the internal workings of Sues are different, what non lethal poisons are there that will humiliate them? -
I had... by
on 2009-05-06 00:11:00 UTC
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a half finished dissection of the 'Sue to go with the microbiology of the 'Sue piece I had. I'll have to dig it out.
It was most scholarly and had a lot about the Sue Brain structure. -
I have an idea for the poisons by
on 2009-05-02 02:55:00 UTC
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I don't know if it would do any internal damage, but you could always try sulfur mustard, also known as mustard gas. it causes horrendous burns. that would be very humiliating to a Sue. or if you are aiming for long term unconsciousness you could use EA-3167, which would cause the victim to remain unconscious for several days with a very small dose(injected into the bloodstream). or, again, for burns or blisters, Lewisite. I would imagine it would have a similar affect to the mustard gas.
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I asked Agent Fritz for his two bits. by
on 2009-05-01 06:37:00 UTC
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While he's not an expert on biology (he's a History major/English minor), he has at one point (largely out of frustration) conducted impromptu brain surgery on a Sue with particularly bad grammar and a tendency towards chatspeak.
Surprisingly, she DID have a brain, but not much of one. The entirety of the brain was shrunken and pretty sickly-looking, but the left hemisphere was considerably more so than the right. Which makes sense, considering that the left-brain is typically associated with analytical functions, and those parts of language relating to proper grammar. -
Well... (Note: This is disturbing.) by
on 2009-04-30 13:02:00 UTC
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I've found a Sue, who, after being subjected to torture which involved burning her eyeballs out with a hot sword, somehow managed to regrow said eyeballs, despite being full-blood human and coming from a continuum which follows Real World laws of physics and biology. Her eyes are now solid crimson, she has heat-vision, and she can replay past events on her retinas.
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What if they got loose in HQ? by
on 2009-05-01 01:38:00 UTC
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Randomly regrowing eyeballs, rolling around? Dangerous. So of course you should try! :D
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WTF?! Yes, that would be a good idea. Weird things. (nm) by
on 2009-04-30 16:11:00 UTC
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Shall she be thrown bodily from the top of a tall building? (nm) by
on 2009-04-30 21:02:00 UTC
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Assuming they react in the same way as humans ... by
on 2009-04-30 13:01:00 UTC
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... stinging nettle poison might do for our purpose. Watch 'em twitching while they're trying to be cool :)
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Re: Assuming they react in the same way as humans ... by
on 2009-05-04 02:51:00 UTC
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So...an acetylcholine/formic acid/histamine/serotonin cocktail?
- *pokes head out from DMSE&R notes* by on 2009-04-30 05:30:00 UTC Reply
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This reminds me... by
on 2009-05-04 03:00:00 UTC
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Would any researchers be interested in blood samples from somewhat exotic Sues? Given the proper gathering equipment, my agents could arrange to get their hands on some.
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Send them over. :] (nm) by
on 2009-05-04 03:05:00 UTC
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They don't seem to age properly... by
on 2009-04-29 20:10:00 UTC
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Don't forget that a minority of Sues are "anorexic". by
on 2009-04-29 20:56:00 UTC
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Re: Don't forget that a minority of Sues are "anorexic". by
on 2009-04-30 00:39:00 UTC
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...Glitter prevents sentience, but it creates imitations of souls...?
I spy a bit of a bias here. -
I didn't phrase it well. by
on 2009-04-30 09:05:00 UTC
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What I mean is, several fanfics show Sues having souls that are sucked out and eaten by their designated enemies. Since many people think that Sues are non-sentient (this is my weakest point), those sould could possibly be imitations, especially since a majority of Sues belong to worlds where sentience=soul(like LOTR).
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Re: I didn't phrase it well. by
on 2009-04-30 14:10:00 UTC
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Okay. by
on 2009-05-01 08:41:00 UTC
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I can accept that. Of course, the Sue interacting with the Agents sent to kill it may have been because it was temporarily transferred to the control of another author. Of course, that raises uncomfortable questions for the Agents, especially those who can see the words beyond the words. I'm going to stop now.
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Preview is my friend, not my enemy. (nm) by
on 2009-04-30 09:05:00 UTC
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*puts on biology hat* by
on 2009-04-29 20:24:00 UTC
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Their bones are made of Mica. by
on 2009-04-29 18:12:00 UTC
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However, there's no theory yet that covers the composition of their 'soft parts'. Sorry!
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However, if i'm forced to guess... by
on 2009-04-29 18:27:00 UTC
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They are less important to the regular maintenance of the body than ours are; judging by the fact that 'natural' Marysue deaths take very long, with few exceptions. Also, the majority of badfics indicate that Sues have hearts (To be pirced through by arrows to produce a 'tragic death'), lungs (to scream at the top of), and stomachs (though they may be shrunken, in order to preserve the Sue's thin body). They also seem to be unable to menustrate, even though they can get pregnant at an alarming rate. It is unknown if those are related.
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Re: However, if i'm forced to guess... by
on 2009-04-29 20:27:00 UTC
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They get pregnant easily yet don't bleed? That sounds awfully familiar... *sigh* Send them over, this sounds like one for the DMpreg. *hefts bell, book, candle and debugger*
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Actually, some may breed if 'drama' demands it. by
on 2009-04-29 21:17:00 UTC
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In fact, story reasons may override any suvian charatheristics as long as the Author demands it. That further strengthens the theory that Glitter is tied to the will of whoever runs the story. Since Semi-Suvian OC's have only been recruited when the Author's attention is removed from them, that could mean that if the Sue could be cut off from it's Author's baleful influence (through Glitter withrawal or the severing of the mystical link itself), it can gain non-suvian traits, like sentience and common sense. Of course, only a few main characters and many side ones have only been cut off from Authorial influence, so I can't say for sure.
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It's bleed (nm) by
on 2009-04-30 12:13:00 UTC
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Well, they can do that too. (nm) by
on 2009-04-30 12:56:00 UTC
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Re: Actually, some may breed if 'drama' demands it. by
on 2009-04-30 04:32:00 UTC
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But the Sue is herself often a manifestation of the author. If the link between author and Sue is severed, could the Sue survive? Surely she would be as a body without a brain, in the absence of the will that commands her?
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But what about Ex-Sues and Side OC's? by
on 2009-04-30 09:28:00 UTC
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Of course, one could make the argument that the latter already have brains, as an unintended consequence of the story. As for the former, a change in the authorial influence may have generated brains for them. However, I don't know how it happens. any theories?
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I think we can agree... by
on 2009-04-30 04:58:00 UTC
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That Sues are already bodies without brains. Pure lust creatures, really. Will, however, may be another issue.
I'm wondering if perhaps the Glitter that's in the blood is in fact some sort of active chemical/biological ingredient that swirls around an otherwise mostly-normal body (except in the case of half-unicorn, half-elf, half-human Sues) and causes these bizzare changes...
Think Trojie's hat would fit me? -
Which is a conclusion i've been trying to make. by
on 2009-04-30 09:17:00 UTC
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The question is, where does the potency come from? Is it because the Glitter is the embodiment of authorial will, or just connected to it? We cannot ignore the role of the author in the formation of the sue.
There is another question, however. What happens when a reasonable OC gets transferred into the control of a Suethor, or a Sue is transferred into the control of a Goodfic author? Do brains just degrade or develop instantly? In the latter cases, where would the barain develop from? -
Re: Which is a conclusion i've been trying to make. by
on 2009-05-04 04:37:00 UTC
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I've wondered that myself...seeing as it turns out that I'm not the only one tackling the "Blue Soap."
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I see. (nm) by
on 2009-05-04 16:48:00 UTC
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I'm new at this, sorry! by
on 2009-04-30 09:18:00 UTC
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And it's 'brain'.
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Re: I think we can agree... by
on 2009-04-30 05:01:00 UTC
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So long as you recognise that actually makes a Sue and a half (and I dread to think which half) I'm sure she'd be happy to let you wear her hat.
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Just adding my two cents! (nm) by
on 2009-04-29 18:28:00 UTC
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They bleed glitter. by
on 2009-04-29 14:28:00 UTC
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Or, at least, that was the general consensus last time I checked.
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Well, glittery pink blood. (nm) by
on 2009-04-29 23:20:00 UTC
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