I'm just mentally separating it from all actual vampires

Subject: I'm just mentally separating it from all actual vampires
Author: Sedri
Posted on: 2009-01-08 21:35:00 UTC

... er, vampire stories, that is. Really, from a biological perspective I like the idea that sunlight doesn't burn them, because that's a REALLY stupid evolutional adaptation to have, and historically I therefore see a need for there to be some other reason why they can't go out into sunlight, for which some sort of obviously inhuman characteristic makes sense... but SPARKLES?

Really, we could've dumped them in a barrel of glitter. Pfft.

Pads? I've an idea. let's figure out some better reason for inhuman immortal creatures (and we can just do away with the word "vampire", if your Transylvanian headdesking is too painful) to have to stay out of sunlight. Some other obvious trait other than SPARKLES. And Trojie can help with the biology.

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Mission plug! by Sedri on 2009-01-07 05:08:00 UTC Reply

The Vampire King of Narnia

A Narnia/Twilight/The O.C crossover, in which Peter Pevensie is turned into a vampire by a Mary-Sue vampire named Summer. Terrible, terrible writing.

Cheers to Trojie and Pads for beta reading.

By the way, as there's been so much debate recently over how good or terrible Twilight actually is, I now have the book and will be putting up a review once I'm finished. I want to judge it fairly. Anyway, it'll be on my LJ, but if anyone's interested, I can post it (or a link to it) here. Should I?

Twilight book review - LINK by Sedri on 2009-01-07 20:46:00 UTC Reply

My short review of the twilight book.

(My Twilight movie review, from two weeks ago.)

I've tried to be fair, but personal opinion will always shine through.

These people need comon sense, by Leto Haven on 2009-01-08 07:27:00 UTC Reply

I think that this con is going to crach and burn horribly...

http://www.twicon.org/home.html

If it were a story, it would be PPC worthy. I found this over in the rant of SomethingPositive, a very good read www.soemthingpositive.net

Leto

Can one have mini-URLs? o.O (nm) by Makari on 2009-01-09 23:39:00 UTC Reply

Thanks by Neshomeh on 2009-01-07 21:52:00 UTC Reply

You make a good point about the Sue and Stu labels being too widely applied. It doesn't sound like the Twilight books are ones that I'll ever really enjoy, though. I much prefer my romance to be secondary to another plot.

Interestingly enough, I noticed that that other fic by the same author, the Hermione/Eragon one, actually shows vestiges of what would be excellent characterization if it weren't for the fact that the character in question is Hermione. She sounds exactly like your average American teenager, her parents sound like parents, etc. The dad goes over the top, but that's not unheard of in real life. It's like she just took her own experiences and applied Hermione's name and appearance. Also, she clearly uses a spellchecker. She just doesn't know which words she actually wants. Very interesting.

I'm still going to PPC the story at some point, though. The spelling errors are just too funny to pass up.

~Neshomeh

Cheers. And good luck with that... by Sedri on 2009-01-08 03:44:00 UTC Reply

You were talking about PPCing the Hermione/Eragon one, right? I got a little confused there.

And no, I'm quite sure that most people wouldn't enjoy the Twilight books. Honestly, I'm not even sure why I like it, however mildly.

*waves hand* by Pads on 2009-01-08 06:10:00 UTC Reply

I wouldn't. They sparkle.

Really, I know I've mentioned this in every forum I have at my disposal to contact you. This is because I cannot get over this. They're vampires. So they sparkle in sunlight. On behalf on all Transylvania I am headdesking.

I'm just mentally separating it from all actual vampires by Sedri on 2009-01-08 21:35:00 UTC Reply

... er, vampire stories, that is. Really, from a biological perspective I like the idea that sunlight doesn't burn them, because that's a REALLY stupid evolutional adaptation to have, and historically I therefore see a need for there to be some other reason why they can't go out into sunlight, for which some sort of obviously inhuman characteristic makes sense... but SPARKLES?

Really, we could've dumped them in a barrel of glitter. Pfft.

Pads? I've an idea. let's figure out some better reason for inhuman immortal creatures (and we can just do away with the word "vampire", if your Transylvanian headdesking is too painful) to have to stay out of sunlight. Some other obvious trait other than SPARKLES. And Trojie can help with the biology.

*pointedly waves copy of Peeps* by CirГchen AnekГЎth on 2009-01-11 15:39:00 UTC Reply

*coughhackbiologicallyat-least-semi-viablevampirismsneeze* Sorry, pet crusade. But the anathema does give a potential explanation for avoiding sunlight!

Er, let me know if you want me to say what it is. I'm prone to rambling about this book so I won't start of my own accord :)

*cheers* ONLY vampire book I really like ever! (nm) by Tasari on 2009-01-17 03:36:00 UTC Reply

*cheers* Another PPCer who's read it! by CirГchen AnekГЎth on 2009-01-18 17:19:00 UTC Reply

...Is two people cheering a lot? Or would it take another person? Hm.

I was just about to say, this sounds like a case for Trojie by Pads on 2009-01-09 02:38:00 UTC Reply

The idea that vampires could evolve is definitely right up her alley. (We're talking about the woman that worked out that, cladistically speaking, unicorns are goats, remember.) I think the sunlight thing's in there because notions of vampires draw rather more heavily on supernatural methods of thinking than evolutionary and scientific ones. You might as well question the possible evolutionary benefits to having your innards on fire.

But yes, as soon as Trojie's back from her convention, let's sit down and work this one out properly.

Indeed. And if you want evolutionary stuff... by Sedri on 2009-01-09 04:39:00 UTC Reply

The book made an attempt to explain their venom and such, though there were big logica gaps; I'll get us the raw material to work from. :)

*leaps into the discussion late* by The Trojanhorse on 2009-01-09 19:44:00 UTC Reply

This sounds like FUN. We can totally do this.

*stares at discusion* Er. Any chance I could help? (nm) by CirГchen AnekГЎth on 2009-01-11 15:40:00 UTC Reply

I definitely wouldn't mind by The Trojanhorse on 2009-01-12 06:51:00 UTC Reply

The more the merrier and all :D

Particularly since I'm not sure we've actually started yet. (nm) by Sedri on 2009-01-12 21:36:00 UTC Reply

if we had, I wasn't informed :) by The Trojanhorse on 2009-01-12 21:38:00 UTC Reply

when I'm back from conferences and tramping, we shall begin!

yes, when... by Pads on 2009-01-13 06:23:00 UTC Reply

But aren't you meant to be doing conferences now? Which means no being online? And yet you still answer Board posts but are not, for example, online for me to ramble at you?

Yes. Discussions of vampire biology shall commence as soon as, uh, uni coursework has sodded off.

Yes, I'm at a conference... by The Trojanhorse on 2009-01-13 09:34:00 UTC Reply

... this means I only get to be online late at my night or for one brief ten minute period in the morning, which sadly leaves no time for rambling.

Not quite on the subject of vampire biology, I now want to write a story about a vampire boy/girl of *actually* about 17 or so (because when you read about them, they always *look* like they're in their teens/twenties but are actually in their hundreds) falling in love with an older human. Because yay for Doing Things Different.

Indeed we shall. On Gmail chat, I think, if it works. (nm) by Sedri on 2009-01-13 03:42:00 UTC Reply

Unicorns are goats? by Neshomeh on 2009-01-09 04:20:00 UTC Reply

I'd love to hear the explanation behind that. Are you folks on AIM? MSN? Otherwise, Trojie has my e-mail.

~Neshomeh

yep by Pads on 2009-01-09 19:21:00 UTC Reply

She's buggered off to a conference, but I'll see if I can find the email she sent me about it.

*four seconds later*

Aha! Glod bless gmail and its search function. I'm johnny underscore rat at msn dot com, so give me a shout and I'll tell you all about it.
Gmail seems most common. Or else an LJ post (nm) by Sedri on 2009-01-09 04:39:00 UTC Reply

Yup. by Neshomeh on 2009-01-08 05:05:00 UTC Reply

Yeah, that's the one. No one else claimed it, so I did. I might even bump it up the list. It should be a relatively easy mission with lots to poke fun at. I just have to decide whether Hermione is replaced or just thoroughly possessed. Eragon is probably in character except for having no memory of his actual life, but I haven't finished reading the fic yet.

~Neshomeh

Post the link, please by Five_redclawed on 2009-01-07 15:22:00 UTC Reply

I've been meaning to check it out myself, but other books take higher priority on my reading list.
It sucks. by Maudlin Hart on 2009-01-07 12:50:00 UTC Reply

I couldn't even get through the first book. Too much Sue and Stu. Everyone and her Alsatian reccomended it to me just because I'm gothly. Bah.

For a moment, I thought you were talking about my mission. (nm) by Sedri on 2009-01-07 19:53:00 UTC Reply

So did I, briefly. by Ugolino on 2009-01-07 19:56:00 UTC Reply

How OOC would that be? :p

Very OOC for me. by Maudlin Hart on 2009-01-08 00:11:00 UTC Reply

Eep, I was mocking Twilight, because it sucks, and that is a very weak pun. Hehe. Just wanted to get that straight.

No worries. It was just one of those 'blink' moments. :) (nm) by Sedri on 2009-01-08 03:42:00 UTC Reply