Subject: Three comments, but two numbers?
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Posted on: 2013-12-06 15:30:00 UTC

Time to get creative.

0/ Yes, it is. It's said that it sank with Arvedui Last-King up in Forochel, along with the Annuminas stone and various regalia of the Kings of Arnor. But given how secretly the Stones were kept (one was in the most populous city in the world, and not even Gandalf knew!), how do we know that? All right, authorial intent, but from an in-universe point of view, no-one who knew about Arvedui's possession - or lack thereof - of the Weathertop Stone survived the fall of Arthedain. My tale about giving it to Cardolan to try and keep them on side - and to relay messages, come to think of it - still works.

1/ It's true that the Tower Hills Stone doesn't connect to the other six. That could be influenced by at least three factors:
a) The Weathertop Stone was apparently larger than the other Northern stones (holding the same position as the Osgiliath Palantir in the South), and acted as 'master' to them. As I understand it from Tolkien's notes, the master-stone could cut in on any communication between two other stones. It could well have also had access to the view from the Tower Stone.
b) Not being able to be used to communicate, and not being able to be rotated as a telescope, doesn't mean it can't transmit its view to another Stone. There's no evidence for this, of course - but nor is there any against it.
c) The Weathertop Stone is held by a nature spirit ;). Who knows what that does to things?

2/ Ooh, you sneak! This is actually two points in one. "String, or nothing!" But I'm onto you, fellow bird-named person.
2a/ Yes, normally the Palantiri need to be held to be used - although the movies apparently disagree, since they still allow eye-Sauron to use them. Bearing in mind that Bombadil is capable of, at minimum, mild hypnosis (the hobbits spend literally an entire day listening to him without even getting hungry, or noticing how long it's been), transmitting visions from the Palantir - either deliberately or purely as a side-effect of its presence - seems entirely in-character. In fact, I'd argue for deliberately - remember that all three hobbits hear (or think they hear) Bombadil's/Goldberry's voice at the end of their visions.
2b/ I'm afraid on this point you're just wrong ;). The reason Sauron was able to corrupt Saruman so thoroughly is that Saruman had absolutely no right to use the Palantir. Since Sauron didn't either, it turned into a simple battle of wills - which Sauron won. Denethor, as Steward of Gondor, did have the right, so was able to tear his Stone away from Sauron's control to a far greater extent. Sauron couldn't manipulate what he saw - but, being ludicrously powerful, could (and did) influence what he thought about it. Pippin, poor thing, had neither authority nor willpower, and was literally dragged to Sauron's attention. And Aragorn? Aragorn had the ultimate authority, and (according to him) just enough willpower to turn the Palantir to his own needs. If he had continued using it, it is entirely possible Sauron would have tried to manipulate him the same way he did Denethor (and there's an AU for the asking). Bombadil, having been given the Palantir directly by a rightful chain of authority (Kings of Arthedain > Someone from Cardolan > Bombadil), had the authority - and I don't see him as someone lacking in willpower.

hS

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