Elestienne is better as ship name than a PokÃ©mon, I think.

Subject: Elestienne is better as ship name than a PokÃ©mon, I think.
Author: Outhra
Posted on: 2013-10-04 20:00:00 UTC

Elechriss/Elekriss would make for a good Pokémon name (Bug-type, maybe? It's not in the motifs of either character, but the "ch" right next to the sibilant at the end there associates it with insects to me. Probably Psychic as a primary, or possibly Electric, but I'm going with Bug as a secondary.), but Elechriss sounds like... some sort of mystic armament. Like one of those lightweight swords in Arthurian-style fantasy made up of an unearthly metal, the sort that can cut through practically anything with little effort on the part of its bearer. Still awesome. Plus, just imagine Eledhwen wielding one of those. Character-perfect.

Would her sword be named after the ship, though? Would the word even mean the same thing in-universe? Further questions to ponder. Possibly only by me, but ponder nonetheless.
Though, considering that the PPC has at least a few meta-cognizant individuals on its staff, the answer to the second question could easily be both yes and no to some people.

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PPC Ship Names and Pokemon by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 13:34:00 UTC Reply

So, based on DawnFire and Ailavyn Siniyash's discussion of 'ship names for PPCers - specifically the Jay/Acacia ship, Byrdtree (or maybe it could be Jaycacia - no, taken - or Thornbyrd - no, taken too ;)) - I started scribbling a few of my own. Of course I started with my OTP, Dafydd/Constance - which, me not being very good at this, became Dafstance.

'Oh hey,' thought I, 'that sounds sort of like a Pokemon. I wonder what it would be like...?'

Oh dear. There's a fair number of Dafydd 'ships, aren't there?

Sillmaglor (Maglor/Silmaril)

Fire-type

Burned Hand Pokemon

It constantly longs for the rock that burned it. It searches in dark caves for any such jewels. Only a significant shock will help it move on.

Sellian (Dafydd/Selene)

Fire/Electric-type

Pyro Pokemon

Wherever it goes, it brings the storm. Between fire and lightning, there isn't much left after it's done. It prefers to do its work at a distance, rather than going in close.

Vefydd (Dafydd/Vemi)

Fire/Fighting-type

Assassin Pokemon

It goes all-out to take out its opponent, using whatever comes to hand. It will happily follow a blizzard of punches with a long-distance fire attack.

Dafstance (Dafydd/Constance)

Fire/Ghost-type

Nightcloak Pokemon

With its right hand it heals, while with its left it burns. It apparently believes its fiery attacks are cauterising wounds. If injured, it will vanish into the night to recover.

(Can I draw? No, not really. But I do like Dafstance's design)

And with those methods of evolving, I've still got at least two (burn and freeze) left to exploit...

So, go on. What are your PPC shipnames (for your characters or others, I guess)? And what would they be like as Pokemon?

(I imagine Byrdtree would definitely be half-poison, for Acacia's arrows - but what would Jay's half be?)

hS

And the final pair: the Canonical Pokemon. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-11 09:44:00 UTC Reply

No, the other sort of canonical.

KaitchEss

Water/Fire

Canon Pokemon

Its central core pulses with a pure light, said to be in time with the heartbeat of the world. Its sleeping eye is the oldest jewel in existence; when it awakens, the Pokemon's power is doubled.

NeshBosh

Dark/Psychic

OTP Pokemon

Its birdlike shadow is said to be the spirit of the Pokemon its quill pen came from. It sends its shadow out to defend itself, while the quill rewrites reality to better suit its unknown goals.

An ancient legend states that after KaitchEss created the world and tied itself to it, NeshBosh appeared to take the imperfect world and improve it by rewriting its errors.

(So yes, they're the PPC History Pokemon and the Concrit Pokemon. Go figure ;))

(Why is a raven like a writing desk? Well, according to Lewis Carroll, 'Because it can produce a few notes, though they are very flat, and it is nevar put with the wrong end in front.')

hS

(Agent Huinesoron of DOGA would like it made known that he has never even met Agent Kaitlyn of the DCPS, and wouldn't be interested in her if he had)
Erp. by Lily Winterwood on 2013-10-05 03:11:00 UTC Reply

I just call Eledhwen/Christianne E/C, because I'm lazy, but I know how that gets confused with every other ship out there. Noting hS's suggestions of Chrisdhwen or Elechris... hm.

Eh, I like Elechris, though to be honest the ship name in my head would fall something more along the lines of "the S.S. Snark and Soulmates" or something.

Yeah, a literal ship name.
A couple of random ones. by PoorCynic on 2013-10-04 17:33:00 UTC Reply

I was reading through some older missions when I got these ideas stuck in my head. Many sincere and humble apologies to the owners of these agents. I am indeed a crazy and horrible person.

Gall Bonecrusher/Laura Dukes - Gallra, Gallroy Dukens
Suicide/Supernumerary - Suicume, Supercide, Bitter Cider
Supernumerary/Xericka - Xume, Team Serious Business

I like Xume best out of these by Outhra on 2013-10-04 19:45:00 UTC Reply

I'm seeing it as a Psychic/Dark type, fitting with aspects of the personality of its two component characters, and the image the name gives me. It's a very cool name.

Maybe I'll try my hand at writing Pokédex-style descriptions later for a few of the names this thread's come up with. Could be fun. I'm making Xume's first, though, or at least early on. Because it's awesome. Awesome things deserve priority.

Ships and PokÃ©names by doctorlit on 2013-10-04 05:51:00 UTC Reply

Doc/Vania Tolluk:
1. Donia-Maybe a Dark- or Steel-type Pokémon, themed around rulership?
2. Docnia-A straight Bug-type, or perhaps Bug/Dark spidery thing.
3. Vandoc-A shoe brand.
4. Toldoc-And handsome.
5. Dolluk-GOTTA EXTERMINATE 'EM ALL! II IS SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST ALL INFERIOR LIFE FORMS

Vania/Paul (I know I haven't even written Paul, but knowing what I know about him, just suggesting this ship feels awful.
1. Vaul-A Fighting-type with a Viking helmet?
2. Paunia-A Water/Bug-type shrimpy thing?
3. Paullok-Something eradicated by the CDC a century ago.

Paul/Doc
1. Pauc-An Ice-type penguin with hockey gear (this must happen for real).
2. Daul-Yet another Ghost-type with a Pokédex entry that becomes disturbing if you think about it too hard.
This is all so very brilliant. by Ailavyn Siniyash on 2013-10-04 05:07:00 UTC Reply

As I haven't Permission, I haven't agents to ship, so I shan't be making ship names, but everyone's are all so wonderful and silly, and I thought I'd point that out.

-Aila
Let's see... by Pretzel on 2013-10-04 04:06:00 UTC Reply

Geeze. Of course I manage to give my two main agents really hard names to smush together.

So, first up is Lian, which sounds okay, but not the best. Hm. Let's look at their last names...

Moorehaven and Nahinu. Morinu? Naven? Right. Maybe not so much.

Let's see. Well, I could always do something a bit more non-traditional. After all, not all ship names need to be made up of their names (I'm looking at you here, Avengers fandom and, of course, WolfStar from HP).

Right! With that in mind, let's see what comes up:

Hawaiian Cougar (Eesh. Maybe not.)

S&A (for Shield and Anchor; slightly obscure)

...

I have decided I'm horrible at coming up with ship names for awkwardly named characters. Huzzah!
Hmm... by firemagic on 2013-10-04 01:52:00 UTC Reply

[b] Theabrin [/b] / [b] Aneia /b
Hmm... I dunno, sounds like a psychic type to me?

[b] Lanazhor /b
Dark or insect type.

[b] Amapha /b
Hm... Probably water.

I fail at doing the bolding thing forever. (nm) by firemagic on 2013-10-04 01:52:00 UTC Reply

Bold is like this (nm) by Tomash on 2013-10-04 05:02:00 UTC Reply

Oh hey! A ship or two coming right up! by Herr Wozzeck on 2013-10-04 00:36:00 UTC Reply

So... I have a couple (self-made) ships I'd like to put through the ringer. So let's get started, shall we?

Eusabius/Zerenze: Eusenze, Zerabius

You can figure out which name you like better for that. Personally, I prefer "Eusenze".

In the event of both, I imagine Eusenze would be a Water/Psychic type pokemon, while Zerabius would be some Earth/Fire thingamajig. I dunno. And I have no idea what is up with the Burned Hand Pokemon stuff, but that might be because I haven't even touched Pokemon since Generation 2 (best generation ever, BTW!).

Xanthus/Annie: Xannie, Annthus, Xanthie

Damn, there are no good names for that ship, LOL. I'm totes going with Xannie, though, since it's the less silly of the bunch. I frankly don't know what to do with these, so... I dunno.
So, what's this all about? (nm) by dramaticsoprano on 2013-10-03 21:15:00 UTC Reply

Two - no, three things. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-07 09:45:00 UTC Reply

Shipping

Shipping, or 'relationshipping', is the art or habit of claiming that two characters are or should be in a relationship. It can apply to characters that actually are (Eledhwen and Christienne), or who never were (Dafydd and Vemi). As made famous by the Harry Potter fandom, ships can be given names formed by mashing their character names together - such as the Harry/Hermione ship being called 'Harmony'. That one also illustrates that slight spelling changes are okay.

Pokemon

Pokemon is a children's entertainment franchise about catching monsters and forcing them to fight for your twisted entertainment. Er... no, actually, that's pretty accurate. The monsters (Pokemon) have either one or two elemental 'types', ranging from the classic (Fire, Water) to the unusual (Steel, Rock, Psychic) to the obvious (Flying, Normal). They also have encyclopedia entries, which give a two or three word description (Camel Pokemon), and a short description of them ('It lives in trees and drops on the heads of unwary passers-by, relying on its hardened skin to protect it from harm').

The PPC

The PPC is a flat world which rides on the back of four elephants, which themselves stand on the shell of an enormous turtle, which (being a turtle) swims endlessly through space.

hS

I notice you haven't brought up Elechris yet... by DawnFire on 2013-10-03 18:46:00 UTC Reply

Here, shipnames for Christianne/Eledhwen.

Christiel (Supernatural Angel name. Sounds...exceedingly Christian, actually. I think this would be Time Lord!Christianne gone mad with power...and merged with Eledhwen--okay, shutting down that train of thought now, it's going the way of Time Lord Victorious.)

Elechris (Credit to hS! Not entirely sure what it sounds like...Personally, I like the beginning, but I'm not sure I like it overall. The search continues!)

...that is, the search would continue, but my ideas have run dry. Anyone else?

~DF

Fairly certain that 'Cristiel' is a name... by Lily Winterwood on 2013-10-09 06:54:00 UTC Reply

...that Suethors would use for the Tolkienverse.

Like, I'm fairly certain it's popped up in an 'Elvish name list' somewhere. Don't recall seeing it on realelvish, though.

Hm... by DawnFire on 2013-10-09 12:22:00 UTC Reply

I suppose it could be related to the 'rist' element of Orcrist, but with a random 'c' at the beginning...but considering it would mean 'daughter of cleaver', I don't know why anyone would give or choose that name. It's a bit odd, to say the least.

~DF

Sues only care if it sounds good, by Lily Winterwood on 2013-10-09 13:16:00 UTC Reply

Realistically, however, I can see that being the father name for some girl whose parent was a warrior (or a butcher?).

Hm, I suppose... by DawnFire on 2013-10-09 13:20:00 UTC Reply

But poor girl if she's introduced to someone who doesn't know her heritage!

And the point about Sues is very true.

~DF

It's all in the spelling. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 20:55:00 UTC Reply

While it's definitely pronounced 'Elechris', I think it's spelt 'Elekriss'. Which is definitely a pokemon.

The alternative is 'Chrisdhwen/Christhwen' (depending on whether you want the accurate spelling or a readable one). Ooh - or there's Elestienne, which is actually quite a nice word.

hS

Oh dear lord, I bet Elestienne is the name of the Sue. by Lily Winterwood on 2013-10-09 06:52:00 UTC Reply

Like the Jaycacia of the Eledhwen/Christianne ship.

... by DawnFire on 2013-10-09 15:00:00 UTC Reply

Lily, no, now I want to write that. What have you done?

Stay tuned, Badfic Game...although possibly next year's Badfic Game, I've already got three stories I'm trying to finish...

~DF

Elekriss definitely looks better, I think. by DawnFire on 2013-10-04 15:50:00 UTC Reply

Unfortunately, you then can't tell it's the shipname. Hm.

Ooh, Elestienne. That sounds good. I think that one has my vote.

~DF

Elestienne is better as ship name than a PokÃ©mon, I think. by Outhra on 2013-10-04 20:00:00 UTC Reply

Elechriss/Elekriss would make for a good Pokémon name (Bug-type, maybe? It's not in the motifs of either character, but the "ch" right next to the sibilant at the end there associates it with insects to me. Probably Psychic as a primary, or possibly Electric, but I'm going with Bug as a secondary.), but Elechriss sounds like... some sort of mystic armament. Like one of those lightweight swords in Arthurian-style fantasy made up of an unearthly metal, the sort that can cut through practically anything with little effort on the part of its bearer. Still awesome. Plus, just imagine Eledhwen wielding one of those. Character-perfect.

Would her sword be named after the ship, though? Would the word even mean the same thing in-universe? Further questions to ponder. Possibly only by me, but ponder nonetheless.
Though, considering that the PPC has at least a few meta-cognizant individuals on its staff, the answer to the second question could easily be both yes and no to some people.

Considering the Winterwood Minigun got into a mission... by Lily Winterwood on 2013-10-09 06:56:00 UTC Reply

(still unpublished, but hey)... I wouldn't be surprised if the Armoury suddenly got a shipment of Elechriss Stabby Things.

*Head shoots up* by SeaTurtle on 2013-10-11 01:02:00 UTC Reply

Did someone say minigun? As in Heavy Weapons Guy style minigun?

Please, I need to know. It sounds so awesome.
...Elechriss Stabby Things? by DawnFire on 2013-10-09 14:59:00 UTC Reply

I wants one, my precious, yes I does.

~DF

And one more - Narto/Lou = 'Naruu'. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 16:17:00 UTC Reply

Because it's really fun to say.

Naruu (Narto/Lou)

Normal/Psychic-type

Meta Pokemon

It has acquired a gaming system of some kind, from which it is utterly inseperable. It uses the device to perform all its attacks, of which it has an impressively large number. Perhaps unfortunately, almost all of these attacks are fairly low-level...

hS
One or two pokemon names by Phobos on 2013-10-03 16:04:00 UTC Reply

Nuima(Decima/Nume)
Psychic-type

Bookworm Pokemon

It is often found lurking near libraries. It absorbs any knowledge it can get its hands on.

Decume(Decima/Nume)
Evolves from Nuima
Psychic-type

Dry Wit Pokemon

It is quiet and brooding. It is not known to speak, but its eyebrows can communicate volumes.

Superdecimary(Decima/Nume)
Evolves from Decume
Psychic/Fire-type

Righteous Outrage Pokemon

It is usually calm, but if it is presented with something it doesn't like it becomes extremely volatile and responds with blasts of withering heat.

I really like... by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 16:35:00 UTC Reply

... the name 'Superdecimary'. I'm sort of picturing these as an anthropomorphic book - but in a cool way, not an Egyptian god shove-a-stupid-head-on-it way. I'm not sure how that would work in actual visuals... hrm. Something like this?

Those are supposed to be two rolled pages for the arms, two folded down pages for the legs, with the rest of the pages sticking out to the sides and the covers folded right back to make those two little spikes (which look something like wings). I guess this would be Nuima - Decume would be a bigger book with some intricate origami work to give it a (mouthless) face and better limbs, while Superdecimary, befitting its fire nature, would actually be pieces of charred paper hovering above an empty or burning book cover.

Very little chance of me drawing that, though. (But I bet 'Nuima' could be made in reality... I'll try that sometime)

hS

Nice interpretation by Phobos on 2013-10-03 16:49:00 UTC Reply

I had pictured more of a hermit crab (appropriate, I think) with a book as a shell for Nuima. Something small with the ability to hide easily. The "crab" body could easily be made of paper.

For Decume, I pictured it becoming larger with more books making up the whole. I like the origami aspect in your interpretation, and using that to make the face (which we only need for the eyebrows, really).

Superdecimary would be more bipedal, in my interpretation, though still made of books. I keep picturing a staff with an open, burning book on the top of it, as well.

It's fun to see how we each see these things.

-Phobos

And interpretations of all three. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-09 15:47:00 UTC Reply

I realise these don't quite match your descriptions - but I can't draw! I'm really pleased with Nuima (it's just so cute!), and actually quite like Superdecimary, too. Decume - well, it's definitely larger! I was going for 'book turtle' here; not sure how well it came off.

Still, I had fun.

hS

I like them by Phobos on 2013-10-09 16:49:00 UTC Reply

I agree that Nuima and Superdecimary are better than Decume, but mainly because Decume is just harder to get across. Overall, I think you did an excellent job. I like the red for the book covers, and the shape progression through the evolutionary line is nice, as well.

Well done.

-Phobos

Ooh, I like the bookcrab idea. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 16:58:00 UTC Reply

I think you'd have that as basically an overturned book, with folded/rolled pages making the legs. I've actually made my version of Nuima in actual reality, sort of, and to get it to look right you'd really need to rip the pages partially away from the spine.

I can see Decume as a... I guess more turtle than crab, with a faceted shell, and one book open at the front to make the face. Then Superdecimary - well, I think that comes down to how well the art would work. I'm pretty sure I couldn't pull off a biped made of books without it looking stupid, but I agree that it would look good if someone could. The staff... probably depends, again, how it's done.

(My designs tend to involve unconnected body parts. That's because I find them easier to draw - wildly so. ;))

hS

Nice. by Karen DuLay on 2013-10-03 15:51:00 UTC Reply

Would you like drawings of these "Pokemon"? Because I could do that.

Is 'awesometastic' a word? Because it would be that. (nm) by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 16:18:00 UTC Reply

Be warned. by Karen DuLay on 2013-10-03 17:54:00 UTC Reply

I think I just made Silmaglor into a cute fox thingy with one paw on fire. Not sure how this happened. If you have any preferences appearance-wise for the others, tell me now. Silmaglor can be changed if you desire.

What is this thing my hand had made.

Hee, that sounds adorable. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 20:56:00 UTC Reply

I'm fine with a fox theme throughout. My only real note is that Dafstance has long hair (or 'hair') playing the role of Luthien's nightcloak - hence the bizarre cone thing.

hS

Ask and you shall receive... by PoorCynic on 2013-10-03 14:50:00 UTC Reply

I'm gonna have to pass on the Pokemon part, though, as the Pokemon franchise and I have been through a rather nasty falling out. Lots of yelling and throwing of things (Pokeballs, mostly) and squinting at teeny tiny screens.

But ship names? Yeah, I can try my hand at a few of those. I'll start off simple, with my own characters. Since some of them don't really portmanteau together all that well, the following list will be a combination of mash-up couple names and descriptors. First off, the partnership... uh, ships.

Gremlin/Xericka - Grexicka, Xemlin, Dark Sparks
Laura/Danny - Lanny, Darla
Laura/James - Jarla, Southern Comfort
Rachel/Cornelius - Ralius, AUspicous, AUsome

And, as a bonus:

Laura/Danny/Rachel - Darlachel, Mentorshipping

Finally (for now), a suggestion for Dafydd/Constance: OBMF (One Big Mad Family).

PC

If you don't mind a couple of Pokemon... by Huinesoron on 2013-10-10 12:15:00 UTC Reply

Grexicka

Electric/Dark

Dark Sparks Pokemon

As it gallops, it kicks up sparks that take on a life of their own. Its rear legs are made of pure lightning.

Xemlin

Electric/Dark

Night Storm Pokemon

It is rarely seen, as it carries a darkness about it. People say it is the source of the strange lights sometimes seen during thunderstorms.

I'm... not really sure why Xemlin has turned into a fish. Maybe that's why it cloaks itself in darkness?

(And yes, I am aware that there is technically already an electric horse Pokemon. Hopefully these two are different enough...)

hS

Very interesting. by PoorCynic on 2013-10-10 20:37:00 UTC Reply

The design for Grexicka put me in mind of the D&D nightmare creature, only with lightning as opposed to flames. I approve of such a concept.

As for Xemlin, I assumed (in the short moments after I had seen the drawing but before I read the bit underneath it) that what I was looking at was the darkness it carried around. I thought that the creature itself was more like a sentient foo fighter or will-o-the-wisp hiding in a eel-shaped cloak of darkness

Either way, pretty cool concepts. While I might not be a Pokemaniac anymore, I could see these as interesting critters from that universe.
Re: If you don't mind a couple of Pokemon... by Outhra on 2013-10-10 19:50:00 UTC Reply

Bltzle is a zebra that absorbs and discharges electrical energy, and evolves into a larger version that does so more quickly and efficiently. Grexicka is a horse phantom made of darkness and sparks, and evolves into a titanic sky-eel that shoots lightning from its eyes. I think they're different enough.

I'm imagining that Xemlin looks a lot like the a flying version of the gulper eel, just because the idea of that thing also being capable of swallowing a small plane whole is just too incredible to dismiss.
Of course, they'd probably live in systems of strong and turbulent weather, being thunderstorm-based creatures and all, so pilots would probably stay away from a potential Xemlin den with or without the threat of being Megasharked, but I'm having too much fun with the idea to let basic logic get in its way.

*a lot like a flying version by Outhra on 2013-10-10 19:56:00 UTC Reply

This is what happens when I type while excited. I forget to proof-read, and article adjectives just start showing up next to each other in the final post. They're like coat hangers in a crowded closet, if coat hangers were spawned from not paying attention instead of... whatever it is that people say causes coat hangers to multiply. I'm not the best with similes.

Muaha. by Huinesoron on 2013-10-03 16:13:00 UTC Reply

I really like 'Xemlin' for some reason. And, for that matter, OBMF - though I think it might have a wider application than just Daf/Con. Given the state of my cast list, I think virtually everyone is part of the OBMF.

hS