Subject: Sufficient explanation, I hope? (nm)
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Posted on: 2015-05-29 16:15:00 UTC
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New mission! by
on 2015-05-28 22:03:00 UTC
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There's a warning in the disclaimer, but I'll restate it here just in case: the fic trivializes rape and has some rather graphic violence, so you've been warned.
That being said... after many weeks of hard work, we proudly present So Much for Subtlety! -
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on 2015-06-01 18:28:00 UTC
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Thankee! by
on 2015-06-02 00:01:00 UTC
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Fixed all of them, save for the last one. The way I imagined is goes like this:
-Des sticks his head in, talks with a Nurse.
-Pulls out, grabs Mrs Bones, drags her in.
-Exits.
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Pulls out, grabs Mrs Bones, drags her in. by
on 2015-06-02 08:20:00 UTC
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Interesting mission, well done by
on 2015-05-31 08:31:00 UTC
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But I have a quick question. On page 45 the Librarian says "...or is it the Wizarding World’s equivalent of the British House of Lords. This is inane." And Rina follows up with "This whole fic is insane." Did you mean for them to be different? The way the dialogue was flowing it feels like they were meant to be the same.
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Interesting difference in perception by
on 2015-05-31 13:09:00 UTC
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To me the way the dialogue was flowing felt like a clever play with words, something I should mention when giving detailed positive feedback (which I usually forget to do even when I’m taking notes).
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I see where you are coming from by
on 2015-05-31 15:07:00 UTC
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That's why I asked. It could be read either way, so I just wanted to see which was the intended way.
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Well, I managed to derp the HTML. by
on 2015-05-31 22:06:00 UTC
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Insane we all know. 'Inane' means 'silly, stupid, insubstantial'.
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That's why I wasn't sure what you meant by
on 2015-06-02 07:10:00 UTC
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As I said before, either interpretation works well. I just wanted to know which one you meant, now I do. And as I said it was well written.
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Sorry, HieronymusÂ’s list doesnÂ’t exist (yet) by
on 2015-05-30 18:17:00 UTC
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Randa drew a thing, guys! by
on 2015-05-30 15:40:00 UTC
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Rina's a lot curvier than she should be and Des says the Librarian's face isn't long enough, but I still think it's a pretty nice picture. It later inspired an exchange in the mission, so posting it now seems relevant.
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[ARMOR BIRD SCREECHES] by
on 2015-05-30 04:41:00 UTC
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I'll echo what PoorCynic said: Great job, you three! That was a wild ride from start to finish, and I only struggled with a scant few points (most notably the implied Sexual Tension between Rina and the Librarian; I have to agree with sonofheaven176 in that it came a bit out of nowhere). And the title drop at the very end was the icing on the metaphorical cake.
In all honesty, though, I'm starting to hate the Librarian now lol. I respect that Des writes him well and all, and I'm not familiar enough with Dr. Who to judge the guy as a character, but dear Arceus, what an asshole! XD -
Glad you liked it. by
on 2015-05-30 12:49:00 UTC
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I'd like to point out that there's a difference between saying "I think this character sucks and is poorly written" (which, without details, is bad criticism) and saying "this character is so well-written I hate his guts". Since it's the latter and not the former you're talking about, I'd take that as praise.
As to the UST between Rina and the Librarian, it's as Iximaz said: Rina is attracted to the Librarian, the Librarian dislikes Rina, and the other three are trolling them about it. -
I've... never said that. by
on 2015-05-30 15:32:00 UTC
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Rina hates the Librarian's guts, end of story. The hatred the Librarian has for Rina is pretty mutual. Even if she found him physically attractive, his *cough* stellar personality would pretty much override that.
Speaking of which, I should post that thing Randa drew... -
Zeb confirmed for best meta troll. by
on 2015-05-30 16:01:00 UTC
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Looks like I was trolled, too.
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Oh, dear. by
on 2015-05-30 16:06:00 UTC
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I, ah, ehehe. I didn't mean to troll you.
But seriously, please don't tell Rina or the Librarian I was just messing with them. It's fun to get them wound up-- plus it's a good distraction for Rina to focus on something other than the badfic. And I rather like my head where it is, thanks. -
*Coos over Zeb* (nm) by
on 2015-05-30 22:38:00 UTC
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More errors by
on 2015-05-30 04:35:00 UTC
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Righto! by
on 2015-05-30 13:23:00 UTC
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Fixed the mistakes. Also, yes, that's a barrel roll.
I also expanded the scene break thingy; hopefully it's clearer now. -
Response (partly to Skarm as well) by
on 2015-05-30 04:55:00 UTC
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Zeb and Corolla and Des are trolling the other two. They pretty obviously hate each other, but that doesn't mean the rest of the team won't get some fun out of it.
Except Zeb who's starting to rather like the idea
Anyway, as for the mistakes you noticed, thank you very much! I'll get on fixing those in the morning. :) -
Oops, HTML error. by
on 2015-05-30 04:56:00 UTC
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Let's try closing this, shall we?
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My thoughts. by
on 2015-05-29 15:45:00 UTC
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Yay, real concrit! by
on 2015-05-29 15:53:00 UTC
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I'm glad you liked it! by
on 2015-05-29 15:50:00 UTC
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That said, I'd like to address the points you've brought up.
The one on page seven is probably me not being clear enough; I was referring to the volume of his voice, not his... will to protest?
The wall-head one - well, Des is an SI (even though he drifts further and further apart from me as time goes by), and I tend to actually do that when I'm faced with something stupid enough. So... Iunno, really. -
The list by
on 2015-05-29 14:57:00 UTC
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Your list, and my responses. by
on 2015-05-29 15:17:00 UTC
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Please put some effort into reading the mission. by
on 2015-05-29 15:12:00 UTC
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Dude, all of those are either a) right and you didn't bother checking (Disapparated, Corolla's holographic windows), b) immaterial if you'd actually pay attention to what you're reading (who said what) or c) obvious. I do hope Ixi's wrong and you're not trolling.
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Nothing here is actually a problem. by
on 2015-05-29 15:06:00 UTC
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Mood of the day: vindicated.
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Okay, nice one. But seriously, are you trolling? (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 15:02:00 UTC
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No. (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 15:09:00 UTC
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I'm laughing right now. by
on 2015-05-29 15:10:00 UTC
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'Tis the only thing to save my sanity at this point. Expect a response shortly.
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How exactly is this funny? (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 15:12:00 UTC
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It's kind of not. by
on 2015-05-29 15:22:00 UTC
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It's not. Quite frankly, I'm more than a little insulted. (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 15:17:00 UTC
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D'you want a list, cob? (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 15:16:00 UTC
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Please explain. by
on 2015-05-29 15:24:00 UTC
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I am extremely confused as to why you are offended and why my list was not a problem. Please explain.
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Sufficient explanation, I hope? (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 16:15:00 UTC
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Check Ix's response. by
on 2015-05-29 15:35:00 UTC
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Try taking a look at the list I provided. (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 15:25:00 UTC
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Hate to break it to you but.... by
on 2015-05-29 00:30:00 UTC
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Was this even beta read? I just went through and noticed many questionable things. I'll try to make a list of them soon.
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Still waiting on this promised list. (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 14:31:00 UTC
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Not saying you're wrong... by
on 2015-05-29 10:31:00 UTC
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Just that I disagree with your assessment. And would probably chalk up most of your quibbles to differences in dialect, tone, and so forth. I'm a pretty technically competent writer, and the only one that stuck out for me was the Librarian describing Godric's Hollow as in "West Country, England", which a) is not how one talks about the West Country, b) is a little vague for someone with Time Lord levels of memory, and c) might not be totally correct - I've had it stuck in my head for years that Godric's Hollow was in Wales, though I may well be wrong about that.
But yeah, interested to see your list, but I'll wait for Hieronymous's, if it's all the same. Not being funny, mate, but when it comes to this stuff he's got form. -
Answers, sorta. by
on 2015-05-29 11:50:00 UTC
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b) and c) - the relevant Harry Potter wiki page says that Godric's Hollow is indeed in West Country, but nothing more; I won't invent a precise location for a mission, of course.
a) - do enlighten me; I'm curious. How should it be said? -
It's not just "West Country", for one. by
on 2015-05-29 12:21:00 UTC
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It's the West Country, because it's multiple places - the West Country generally refers to the counties of Devon, Dorset, and Cornwall, since it's about as far west as you can go while still being in England. Country, in this context, is meant kind of like countryside - not an actual country.
Calling it "West Country, England" makes him sound like a poorly-researched Hollywood location scroll, basically. =] -
Nonsense. by
on 2015-05-29 13:01:00 UTC
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Zumerzet is in the West Country, at the very least. Jury's still out on Wilt-shyre, but I didn't notice a whole lot of difference between them.
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Yes, should've remembered that. by
on 2015-05-29 13:02:00 UTC
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Don't know why I didn't, really, my mum's family's from up that way.
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Fixx'd. (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 12:51:00 UTC
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The West Country. by
on 2015-05-29 12:06:00 UTC
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It's a broad term covering much of south-west England, and it has a definite article. Think 'the Highlands' or 'the North'.
Also it should be said with a West Country accent. Oo-arr.
hS spent seven-odd years there -
hS be a zoider drinkaaaaar? by
on 2015-05-29 12:21:00 UTC
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yaaarp/naaarp?
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Ohstarsit'sthelongvowels. by
on 2015-05-29 13:04:00 UTC
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The Long Vowels is the next one in the series by (nm) by
on 2015-05-29 13:40:00 UTC
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Can you please dial back your tone? by
on 2015-05-29 01:09:00 UTC
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It's pretty haughty. Also, if you'd have read the disclaimer you would have seen that we did, indeed, have three betas.
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Yes, we did have betas. by
on 2015-05-29 01:06:00 UTC
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Three, in fact, and all of them quite good. But I'm certainly interested by this promised list.