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I think it's clear that GlarnBoudin's character was harassing Iximaz's. On thinking about this further (and looking up 'harassment' on Wikipedia, yes seriously), the following things pop out:

-While we are not our characters, we've known since Jay and Acacia that almost everybody closely identifies with their characters. I take attacks on Baron hS more personally than I should, for instance. So it's perfectly understandable for Iximaz to feel harassed because their character was. (My missing this goes to my strenuous efforts to not feel that way myself; I glossed over the whole idea.)

-That goes both ways. GlarnBoudin probably (subconsciously if not openly) identifies Iximaz with the Aviator, and himself with his characters. So there is an element of direct harassment in there, even though it's all ostensibly fictional. (This one goes to me not having much experience RPing or cowriting.)

-The sort of fixating-attention-getting behaviour GlarnBoudin directed at Iximaz goes by another, quite nasty name: stalking. It doesn't hit the common image of 'lurking outside the window', but it absolutely is. (I missed this one because... yeah, I'd rather not go into it, but it goes back to those comparisons with me as a teenager.)

Conclusions:

-GlarnBoudin engaged in harassing behaviour towards Iximaz, which is against the spirit of the PPC constitution, and is grounds for banning.

-The PPC constitution as presently written doesn't actually cover this sort of harassment: it assumes that 'harassment' will be straight-up attacks and bullying. If the Board comes up with a way to put it in (probably in Article 1), I'll do the paperwork side to get it on the doc.

hS

My post was intended to clearly outline what "trying harder" would look like, and what you were expected to do. I am confused by why you believed the subject line you used was a good response to my post, especially since it comes across as angry shouting.

I think one significant action you can take that will make it clear you intend to reform and try harder to act appropriately is to go back to your old missions and revise them, taking into account the feedback and concrit you have received. This will also significantly improve your reputation within the PPC. (If you feel that you are unable to revise your previous work, unpublishing it is a valid alternative solution.)

To put it another way, "next time" isn't quite enough. We'd like to see "this time" as well, since it is possible.

Tomash

Please try to be a little more thorough next time before starting a new thread.

It's not a Blender is still on the unclaimed page and I can't seem to find the edit button.

I'm also claiming Welcome to the Future.

As for not disappearing, it is hard to get out of the house to access the internet.

BTW, anyone who hasn't emailed me about betas, I'm not committing to checking in next week. My medicine is too expensive.

...are one handed weapons, you'll get a one handed weapon in return.))

But since it seems like we're still in the middle of voting that's not the case.

I'll shut up now.

He did it, it was awful. Case closed, right?

hS

Eviscerating canon characters.

Go ahead and knock the "harassing a PPC member" off the charge list for Glarn because the most I ever did was tell him in-character to get lost and then avoided taking the Aviator to Rudi's when he wouldn't stop pestering me. I didn't make it clear enough I didn't like his pestering and that's entirely my fault.

Most I ever directly said about it, I believe, was this



And Glarn was gone at that point so he never saw it.

So yeah, it's my fault for not saying something earlier. Can we just forget the "harassing Iximaz" bit and just focus on the inappropriate comments?

I would also like to note that I can't find any indication in this thread that GlarnBoudin was asked to stop RPing with Iximaz. The closest is a mention that Iximaz said they won't co-write with him, which is a different thing. There was nothing in the chat transcripts to indicate that such a request had ever been made, and at least one implication that it hadn't.

I am perfectly willing to believe that Iximaz had told GlarnBoudin that they did not wish to RP with him. But I'm not willing to be told off for not being aware of that when no-one had bothered to mention it.

hS

One of my RP-only characters, a Darkest Dungeon Plague Doctor named Paracelle, makes Iximaz uncomfortable to be around. Ix told me this. I no longer RP as that character when Ix is about.

Glarn was in a similar scenario. Rather than back off however, he totally ignored their requests and continued to try and engage them in an RP in which they did not want to take part. Over and over again. Regardless of intentions, this is harassment, and I am in support of chat mods having the power to kick and/or ban people for harassment, especially when, and this is important, they are the ones being harassed.

Let's go the other way. Let's say they don't kick/ban people for harassment of this nature, or for posting deeply unpleasant things in group fora despite being repeatedly told not to do so. What confidence can users who aren't mods have in the system then? When one of those selfsame mods is harassed by a user breaking the rules they are supposed to enforce, what confidence can they have that the mods will help them should they themselves ever be attacked, or harassed, or bullied?

We have these mods, and they have these powers. It is up to them to use them in a fit and proper manner, with the rest of the community acting as checks and balances against abuses of that power -- but "fit and proper" implies using those powers for their intended purpose.

Sorry for ranting. This is why I didn't vote; I'd just end up shouting at everyone.

That makes more sense. ^_^ In the way that makes less sense, obviously, because while there's an argument for Y-M-D, M-D-Y is just messy.

I agree with your second point too; in fact I think I said something to that effect? Lack of ill intent doesn't avert negative consequences, nor is it an excuse. But it might make a difference in how people feel about him and their encounters with him - there's a difference between 'so-and-so was out to get me' and 'so-and-so was really socially inept at me'.

hS

1) It's not April 12th, it's December 4th. The date's American.
2) I don't assume that Glarn is malicious (Hanlon's razor is very much a thing) but he still did some pretty bad stuff.

... your 'basically the entire RP transcript' consists of one character trying to talk to another and being grumped at. It includes an explicit statement by Iximaz that it's the Aviator who doesn't want to be there, not the author (at least, that's my interpretation of 'She's in a bad mood, can you tell?'). Is Sesrik bugging the Aviator? Clearly yes. Much like all HQ's Time Lord always niggle at the Notary, and like various Plort characters love getting a dig in at Baron hS.

Frankly, it looks like Glarn looks up to Iximaz and wants to interact with them, and is putting on the most cheerful face they can and trying to push past the Aviator's mood to do so. The same applies to the 'miscellaneous harassment' at the bottom of the page - how exactly is 'It would be fun for my character and yours to have drunken interactions' harassment? Are you defining the word to mean 'any attempt to interact'?

The non-RP sections, by contrast, are pretty awful. I'm going to assume there was more stuff between April last year and the present.

... does anyone know how old GlarnBoudin is? I ask because I'm seeing a lot of 'me as a teenager' in these transcripts. Fixating on people and trying to interact with them when they want nothing to do with you? Check. Being dark and 'edgy' to try and carve out a space as an Interesting Person to Keep Around? Check. Occasionally combining the two in such a way that you just plain freak out someone you want to befriend? Check, check, and double check.

All of which is terrible behaviour. All of which needs to be unlearned, and is absolutely potential grounds for banning. But none of which, in my case, was malicious or malevolent, and all of which (I hope!) I've managed to work past. If GlarnBoudin is in the same stage of life as I was, I hope he, too, can eventually get past it.

hS

But instead turned to the merchant. It would be prudent to walk into anywhere new as best armed as it could.

It handed him the longsword, thinking that the spork was far too valuable to give up in trade. "It hopes this is suitable for trade."

Which I thought was pretty clear from context?

hS

So, Discord just rolled out the search feature to the PPC Discord. Iximaz and I have collected a representative sample (please note this isn't everything) of Glarn's objectionable behavior in chat. You can find the screenshots here.

I would like to draw your attention to:

1. Glarn: "(Is now imagining 'nix' being a pun for a CSI Miami episode where Ix is killed)"

2. Basically the entire RP transcript, which occurred after Iximaz had told Glarn (several times) that they did not want to cowrite with him.

As long as you can remember a phrase connected to the post you want to search, you're pretty much golden. It jumps you up in the chat logs so you can go back and read to your heart's content.

...all the zombies))

He approached the Kobold. "You are a Merchant, yes?" he inquired. "I believe I have something I would be willing to trade with you." He took out his bow and showed it to Blearm. "Would you be willing to exchange this for something?" Davug stepped a little closer, and eyed the Merchant suspiciously. Something was not quite right about that one. He did not trust him. He mentally readied himself to defend the Elf if need be.

Virro: (7 + 2Cir = 9) You manage to successfully bargain with Renna. Although it does not appear that the other Elf was going to charge you for enchanting a bow for you, she was going to ask you to do a task that she will not specify exactly. However your charismatic personality wins her over, and she agrees that you do not have to do the task for her, she says she is sure someone else can do it if need be. .

Evard: ()

Uriel: (6) You brew what appears to be a normal cup of tea and are eager to drink it. Gained Tea.

Keegra: (11) From the shocked looks on the faces of all in The Last Bastion, you assume that the answer is, no, they did not know about it. A fact that Rudig soon confirms. A talk between the occupants of The Last Bastion reveal their certainty that noting hostile, alive or undead is in the room at the end of the secret passageway, although that doesn't mean the room is completely safe as there are trapped rooms in the dungeon waiting for someone to spring the trap and dies from them. You manage to convince Gikur and Gantuxuz to explore the passageway and the room beyond with you.

Xiv'riit: (10) Like Keegra you ask your questions and the occupants of The Last Bastion respond sincerely. They honestly had no idea that the passage had existed until Keegra had found it. It is thanks to your questions that Gantuxuz decides to help Gikur explore the passageway. Blearm meanwhile is bouncing up and down excitedly at the thought of someone trading with him.

Kali: ()

Yeleni: ()

Priya: ()

Davug: () You wait in the Last Bastion for Virro's next orders

Shaban: () You wait in the Room 4 for Virro's next orders

Room 5: There are five male warriors standing a little bit back from the door in a line. The outer two are Lizardmen, whilst the other three are all dwarves The dwarves are clad in plate mail, and wield a shield and an axe each, the two Lizardmen are wearing some kind of Heavy Armour and are wielding Greatswords. Each of the Lizardmen are also holding the collars of a Guard Dog and seem ready to release them at a moments notice. Further back there is a female elf wearing Leather armour, wielding a Longbow with a full quiver of arrows on her back, Next to her is a female Centaur wearing Mail Armour with some Javelins strapped to her back. Finally, almost out of sight is a small Kobold in Light armour with a sling. The room itself is another long rectangle, although this one is thinner than room 4. There do not appear to be any other doors in this room, although a lone painting seems to stand out almost at the far end of the North Wall and two lighter shades of stone are almost opposite each other on the North and South Walls about a third of the way down. The rest of the room looks well used, a temporary smithy/kitchen seems to have been set up alongside some benches and desks with things going on on them and a small sleeping area. Noticing you are not Undead, the Warriors seem to relax slightly, and bid you welcome to, as they call it, "The Last Bastion."

Rudig: () You puzzle over the existence of the newfound passageway and begin to work out how would be best to hold it in case things take a turn for the worse.

Gikur: (5) You advance up the passageway, however you are unable to open the door at the end, it is not locked, merely stuck in place, and appearing to swing into the passageway instead of into the room, you are unable to make any progress.

Urouk: () You watch Uriel make the tea, raising an eyebrow at the practice but otherwise leaving him to it.

Trijask: () You continue to guard the door to The Last Bastion and watch for enemies to kill.

Gantuxuz: (5) You are very sure the passageway itself has no traps or other secrets hidden along it, however, like Gikur you are unable to get the door open.

Guard Dogs: () you wait for Trijask to give you an order and attack.

Renna: ()

Prilanos: ()

Blearm: () you giggle quietly, the normal people in The Last Bastion ignore you as they always do, you know you're not right in the head, if you were you wouldn't be where you are. Still, you wonder if any of the newcomers have anything interesting to trade, it would be nice to just be a merchant again.

Characters:

Virro: Weapons - Shortbow(+2) Quiver(35 Arrows), Armour - , Other - (+1 Cir when guarding a door or doorway), Orc Bodyguard (You control what your Orc Bodyguard does each round), Undead Orc Bodyguard, Necromantic Genius (+2 Cir when trying to raise undead), Cracked Bow (-2 Dam when firing bow, can be removed by swapping bow or getting it repaired by a smith.) Health 22/26

Evard: Weapons - Dagger(+2), Dagger(+1), Armour - Studded Leather Armour(+4, Invisibility), Other - Invisibility (Can turn invisible for one round (counts as a passive action), Cannot be noticed or attacked by enemies whilst invisible, +1 Circumstance when attacking whilst invisible. Invisibility can be activated once every 4 Rounds (Rounds Remaining 0, Invs ready to activate)), Health 27/23

Uriel: Weapons - Club(+2), Armour - Sturdy Robes(+1), 2 Leather Armour(Light +2 Can't be Worn) Other - Belt of Advanced Monk Training (+3 Dam when unarmed.), Knife-Hand (+2 Dam when Unarmed, Can only hold items with one hand, Improved.), Club(+2, Not used), Tea, Health 33/29

Keegra: Weapons - , Armour - , Other - Ring of Thur ('Rub thrice and drop it' and a mysterious stranger may arrive to help you for a turn, One use only), Belt of Monk Training(+1Dam when unarmed), Undead Bane (+3 Cir When fighting Undead), Rudig's Horn (Can be used twice to summon Rudig and a random number of others from the Last Bastion to help you until the end of the fight, can be used as a free action whilst in a fight) Health 25/22

Xiv'riit: Weapons – Spork(+3), Armour - , Other - , Ring of Thur ('Rub thrice and drop it' and a mysterious stranger may arrive to help you for a turn, One use only), Known Enemy (+2 Cir when interacting with Zombie Lords), Undead Bane (+2 Cir when fighting Undead) Health 20/28

Kali: Weapons - Deer Shot(+3, Deer Fling), Armour - Leather Armour(+1), Other - Deer Fling (Once per room, you may fling a Deer instead of a stone at an enemy. This does +1D8 damage, and the difference between the offence and defence scores (either way) is taken as damage by the Deer. If it survives this it stays around as a permanent companion following your orders), Health 16/12

Yeleni: Weapons - Quarterstaff(+2), Armour - , Other - , Health 30/26

Priya: Weapons - Monk's Spade(+2), Armour - Banded Armour (Heavy, +4), Other - , Health 19/25

Davug: Weapons - Mace(+2), Armour - Studded Leather Armour(+3) Leather Armour(+2, Not Used), Other- Admirer(+2 Cir when fighting alongside Keegra), Health 18/26

Shaban: Weapons - , Armour - Leather Armour (Light +2), Other- , Health 3/7

Gikur Ironfeet: Weapons - Waraxe(+2, Improved), Armour - Full Plate(Plate, +7), Shield(+3) Other - , Health 21/21

Udouk Goldtank: Weapons - Waraxe(+2, Improved), Armour - Full Plate(Plate, +7), Shield(+3) Other - , Health 24/24

Rudig Stoneheart: Weapons - Waraxe(+2, Improved), Armour - Full Plate(Plate, +8), Shield (+4) Other - , Health 25/25

Trijask: Weapons - Greatsword(+3), Armour - Banded Armour(Heavy, +6), Other - , Health 29/29

Gantuxuz: Weapons - GreatSword(+4), Armour - Banded Armour (Heavy, +7), Other - , Health 18/18

Guard Dog 1: Weapons - Teeth(+2), Armour - , Other - , Health 6/6

Guard Dog 2: Weapons - Teeth(+3), Armour - , Other - , Health 4/4

Renna Liaran: Weapons - Longbow(+5 (2+3), 99 Arrows Remaining), Armour - Leather Armour(Light, +3), Other - , Health 25/25

Prilanos: Weapons - Javelins(+1, 22 Remaining), Armour - Holy Scale Armour(Mail, +4, +2 Cir When Healing/removing injuries, +4 Health given when restoring Health), Other - , Health 27/27

Blearm: Weapons - Sling(+2), Armour - Padded Armour(Light, +3, Can only be worn by Kobolds, Goblins and Halflings), Other - Hyperspace Market Stall (Can trade with people), Health 10/10

Loot in Room 4: 2 Leather Armour(Light +2), Mace(+1), Scale Mail(Mail. +3)