Think about it. The more generic, formulaic Mary-Sueish romance books there are, the more fanfiction writers who write the same can say "but they do it and no-one complains and they get paid for it".
I'm perfectly fine with romance novels, but the issue I have is that none of them are interesting because they're all the same. Wow. Locations and character names change. Nothing else does. If the authors could simply even try to make theirs different, I wouldn't have a problem at all. I mean, even making the hero or heroine ugly would be interesting. Or the heroine a prostitute rather than shy virgin or seductress or some such other crud that all women should be according to these books. I once read an essay that said, with proof, that these books just set feminism back to the 1800s and it's accurate (the essay was scarily well written).
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Maybe, but... by
on 2009-10-16 11:18:00 UTC
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Romance novels are formulaic by
on 2009-10-16 10:53:00 UTC
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There is a market for them.
Get over yourselves. Not everyone wants to read high-brow literature for their entertainment. Some people like to read romance novels because they know exactly what these are going to give them.
Doesn't mean you have to read this stuff. Doesn't mean you have to write this stuff. Doesn't mean you can say that someone else can't read or write this stuff.
And yes, I think this person realizes very well what she is saying.
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It's okay. by
on 2009-10-16 10:42:00 UTC
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Glad to have you here!
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Welcome back. Here's a tall ship. by
on 2009-10-16 10:06:00 UTC
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I'm rather new, but whatever. (No, What', not you. Stupid Agents. Krisp, don't start it. South, stop laughing. OK I think you know my Agents now.)
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Have a welcome-back plover! by
on 2009-10-16 04:18:00 UTC
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And a Mark II K-9!
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We're not dead yet! by
on 2009-10-16 04:15:00 UTC
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There's still a couple of us crazy oldbies running around... Join the crowd, you'd fit right in!
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Head, meet Desk *sigh* (nm) by
on 2009-10-16 03:57:00 UTC
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Welcome back! Have some Convenient Cake by
on 2009-10-16 03:57:00 UTC
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I've only been here two years... I think. Possibly less. Either way, I haven't met you before, but that's all right. Nice to meet you now. :)
- Sedri
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Hey there! by
on 2009-10-16 03:47:00 UTC
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I...think I remember you? In any case, would you like an otter plushie to keep you company? He's pretty adorabibble.
Nice to see you back!
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Ohmygod that was awesome. by
on 2009-10-16 03:47:00 UTC
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Really, it was. And I loved the use of Calvin and Hobbes technology. Very clever.
*removes hat*
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*points* OBJECTION! by
on 2009-10-16 03:35:00 UTC
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I object to the Secondary Character and Story Basics bits!
No story should be formulaic! None, I say! None!
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Slightly OT: Oh dear. by
on 2009-10-16 02:46:00 UTC
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I've just found the reason for why the crappy romance novels seem alike.
http://romance.fictionfactor.com/articles/romance101.html
*headdesk*
It's practically showing a sign to budding original fiction writers saying, "Write Original Suefics! Get Rich!" Maybe this is why I don't read many romance novels? I know this is original fiction and all, but... Erg. Does she even realize what she is saying?
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Oh wow, hi. by
on 2009-10-16 02:32:00 UTC
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It's been a few, uh, years since I wandered over here. I don''t really know why I'm wandering back now (Five years after I last poked my head in, I do believe)
I guess I missed you guys, or something. (I don't recognize half the names! But those I do recognize, helloooo!) I'm kidding, I must have, or I wouldn't poke my head back in.
And. Well.
I've noticed a nice crop of Mary-Sues and badfic poppin' on up around the Inglourious Basterds section and wondered if any of ya'll nice people had toddled on up to have a look-see yet. (Not sayin' I'll find the time-- I'm right busy now in college so I can't promise anything, I'm just curious. Seems like the sort of fandom that'd lend itself to the medium.)
Anyway...hey. 'Sup. My, my, how you've grown.
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Good glods, Calvin and Hobbes devices? by
on 2009-10-16 00:12:00 UTC
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Whoah.
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Plug: Makes-Things' Last Hurrah by
on 2009-10-15 23:39:00 UTC
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Located here.
I am, in fact, not dead. I may not be uploading much else for a good while, though--busy busy busy with school. So, to make up for that, here's this: my finally-completed Makes-Things Project.
The idea is simple: give Makes-Things a proper final curtain. And it is exactly that, though the process of getting it there wasn't fast. This has actually been in the works, on and off, since late May, but it wasn't fully finished and betaed until late September thanks to rewrites, uncooperative muses, and procrastination.
Now, however, I've finished, checked, formatted, and uploaded it. I hope you enjoy reading it; it was a blast to write.
Very massive props go to Techno-Dann, not only for beta-reading this thing several times and lending a very new author the use of Dann, but also for supplying as many things as he could remember about the Macrovirus Invasion. Anyone else who helped contribute details of that day or information about macroviruses/the PPC/PPC gear also gets massive props, even if I can't remember exactly who did.
Lesser but still extensive props go to Cassie Cameron-Young and Neshomeh, for being enthusiastic and helpful beta-readers; Tawaki, for lending me the use of Agent Cameron; Kgarret, for sparking the idea in the first place; and Paddlebrains, for forcibly making me change to using Gdocs and thus making the original document-LJ transition a hundred million times less frustrating.
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Re: Doctor Who horror by
on 2009-10-15 22:30:00 UTC
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Found it earlier, had it on list of badfic. As you said, it is quite bad.
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Re: Why not the moons? by
on 2009-10-15 15:04:00 UTC
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(Actually, it appears that the lunar calendar drifts out of phase with the seasons, and goes through its own cycle every 33 years, according to Wikipedia. So that might not work, after all.)
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Why not the moons? by
on 2009-10-15 15:02:00 UTC
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Doesn't each moon have a name? I think there's at least a Harvest moon (ah-ha-ha), and ...a Hunting moon? It wouldn't be as simple as a Gregorian, but easy to chart and keep track of, I think.
Though Leto's would work too, and be much simpler.
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Not even each. by
on 2009-10-15 08:46:00 UTC
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Only if the month holds a specific occurace or special thing about it. Nice thing about this method is that you can have each group calling a specific month a different name.
L
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Re: It's my birthday today! by
on 2009-10-15 06:35:00 UTC
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Have a very late "Happy B'day!" and a bottle of bleeprin!
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Late to the party. by
on 2009-10-15 02:03:00 UTC
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Have a Mark III K-9!