Subject: The laser longsword is fine. (nm)
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Posted on: 2014-12-03 00:15:00 UTC
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Star Wars: Episode VII trailer (spoilers) by
on 2014-12-01 13:33:00 UTC
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Hope lost due to Disney and not regained due to trailer. (nm) by
on 2014-12-01 22:23:00 UTC
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Care to expand on that? by
on 2014-12-02 09:20:00 UTC
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I mean, Disney have done some pretty good stuff lately (and even a while before that). I wouldn't trust them to do a faithful adaptation of, like, anything, but this isn't an adaptation - it's a story set thirty years after the last events they're acknowledging to have happened.
And are you implying there was something about the trailer that made you despair, or just that it didn't show anything to specifically make you hope again?
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Eh. by
on 2014-12-02 15:36:00 UTC
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On one hand, Disney chucked the baby with the water, so to speak, with their EU purge - there was some pretty horrible stuff there, but also some pretty good stuff.
On the other hand - ohmygodyesXWingsTIEFighterssocool.
On the other other hand - that lightsaber? Nope.avi. Just... no. -
The laser longsword is fine. (nm) by
on 2014-12-03 00:15:00 UTC
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Darth Maul had his bo staff... thing. Remember? by
on 2014-12-03 19:17:00 UTC
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So I'd say the hilt thing is okay.
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Nonono by
on 2014-12-03 21:45:00 UTC
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Maul's saberstaff still fits the aesthetic. That lightsaber with those two useless little blades serving as a hilt... doesn't.
- Let Colbert enlighten you. by on 2014-12-04 14:28:00 UTC Reply
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Dang, you beat me to it. (nm) by
on 2014-12-04 15:31:00 UTC
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Fair enough. by
on 2014-12-03 22:02:00 UTC
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Rule of Cool, I guess... *sigh* I was about to say 'But if he blocks someone's attack, the hilt could slice... nevermind.' Though since a light saber is the only thing that can stop another light saber, I suppose it could still potentially have some function.
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Well... by
on 2014-12-04 06:07:00 UTC
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While the best thing to use for blocking a lightsaber is another lightsaber, they aren't exactly common or easy to use. Cortosis blocks lightsabers or shuts them off on contact, and would have made much more sense to use than the weird lightsaber cross guard thing going on, especially since it would be less likely to slice your own head off in a saber lock. Whether cortosis even exists anymore since the EU was neutered is the question, though. Rule of Cool > combat pragmatism/usability.
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Shall we take a look at it? by
on 2014-12-04 09:26:00 UTC
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Cross-guard by
on 2014-12-04 15:16:00 UTC
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Eh, I'm not convinced. by
on 2014-12-04 15:43:00 UTC
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Re: Eh, I'm not convinced. by
on 2014-12-04 15:50:00 UTC
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Hmm. by
on 2014-12-04 16:08:00 UTC
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Re: Hmm. by
on 2014-12-04 17:29:00 UTC
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That's almost reasonable. by
on 2014-12-05 10:22:00 UTC
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I think I have an idea by
on 2014-12-04 16:47:00 UTC
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Alternate Lightsaber techniques by
on 2014-12-05 05:00:00 UTC
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Re: Alternate Lightsaber techniques by
on 2014-12-05 07:43:00 UTC
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Very true. by
on 2014-12-05 08:54:00 UTC
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The "force barrier" concept is vital, and would definitely protect from a number of these techniques. I do think the ability of a lightsaber to near-instantly expand and retract is underutilized, though - it might be boring to watch, but fights would be much more cerebral with anticipating when the blade might not be there.
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Someone pointed out in the comments... by
on 2014-12-05 10:41:00 UTC
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Yeah, but... by
on 2014-12-04 16:02:00 UTC
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...trying to him someone with the mini-lightsaber beams at that range would involve a whole lot of wrist contortions that just seem pointless and really dangerous considering that the main blade would be really, really close to your face.
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Seems your fingers would hit the metal bit, not the blades. (nm) by
on 2014-12-04 14:29:00 UTC
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Yes, I did in fact say exactly that. (nm) by
on 2014-12-04 14:49:00 UTC
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You said the hand would be cut off or the fingers singed. by
on 2014-12-04 20:58:00 UTC
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"As for the second purpose - well, it would stop your hand slipping onto the blade, but only by cutting it off before it got there."
At this point we're just arguing pedantry though, so ah well. :P I'm just glad to see a laser sword that looks and maybe acts like, you know, a sword. -
You could say I've yet to find A New Hope. (nm) by
on 2014-12-02 10:08:00 UTC
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Or, alternatively, that Ep. VII seems like a Phantom Menace. (nm by
on 2014-12-02 10:09:00 UTC
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Well, yeah, but... by
on 2014-12-02 10:21:00 UTC
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... from the trailer, it looks like we've got the Empire striking back, and the revenge of at least one Sith - and, of course, we pretty much have to see the return of the Jedi, when the Force awakens.
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Remember... by
on 2014-12-03 20:58:00 UTC
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This could be an excellent opportunity to see some new Star Wars battlefronts, and maybe even a Jedi Academy or some knights of the New Republic.
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I'm betting Dark Forces are at work. by
on 2014-12-03 21:28:00 UTC
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So we'll probably see X-Wing Vs. TIE Fighter on the Galactic Battlegrounds while the Empire is At War. And hey, who knows - Luke might even tell some Yoda Stories.
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I'm Wary but Excited by
on 2014-12-01 21:20:00 UTC
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Time to put on my star wars nerd hat. by
on 2014-12-01 19:12:00 UTC
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About the 'obsolescence' by
on 2014-12-02 05:19:00 UTC
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Real world wise, we have plenty of aircraft of models that are thirty years or older that are still used constantly to date- one example is the F/A 18 Hornet.
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It's true. by
on 2014-12-02 09:17:00 UTC
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But we don't live in !!SPAAAAAAAACE!!.
In particular, in theproperrealoriginal timeline, the Empire has gotten much nicer over the past thirty years. It's still hardly a beacon of light and justice, but it's gotten a bit beyond letting its pilots all die before they learn how to fight properly. So the TIE/LN is not just obsolete (in particular versus the much faster Interceptor), it's obsolete and dangerous.
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I'm in it for the spaceships. by
on 2014-12-01 16:47:00 UTC
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Yeah, sure, they're outdated and stuff, but seeing this:
...this is just too good to miss. Here's to hoping we get to see more spacecraft than just the X-wings. -
Those aren't your parents' X-wings, either... by
on 2014-12-03 04:09:00 UTC
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For comparison's sake, see this diagram... They've clearly upgraded the S-foils and nosecone, and the cockpit geometry looks different as well. This looks a lot like either a new version entirely (like the Super Hornets mentioned earlier) or a heavy incremental upgrade - with new avionics, flight controls, and engines, even a thirty-year-old spaceframe could be quite the contender.
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Why am I not surprised you noticed that? :D by
on 2014-12-03 10:05:00 UTC
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