Subject: Oh dear god MY SIDES! (nm)
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Posted on: 2017-12-14 18:40:00 UTC
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Post-worthy by
on 2017-12-14 17:01:00 UTC
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Right! As a result of the census, we've noticed a discord-board gap. A big part of this, IMHO, is the infrequency of posts, and how infrequently those posts spark interesting discussions. SO! We need more posts (not a MASSIVE AMOUNT, but more than the maybe one or two a week we get), and we need posts that spark discussion.
In order to do this, some ideas for what sort of posts are good for sparking discussion, and we also need to get people talking. For the second part...
OI! YOU! YES YOU! When we post stuff on the board, PLEASE share your feelings, comments and opinions. And then share your feelings, comments and opinions about everyone else's feelings, comments, and opinions. This way, discussion wll happen.
As for topics, that's what the thread is for. I'll start with a list, and you lot can add to it. Or post your feelings, comments and opinions.
-Recent news
-Things to debate (Do Balrogs have wings? Who would win? Tabs or Spaces? Vi or Emacs? I kid on the last two...)
-Interesting fandom things (like GNU Terry Pratchett, which I just shared. Look it up, it's pretty amazing.)
-Cool fanfic (and your feelings, comments, and opinions about it - what did you like? What didn't you like?)
-Bad fanfic (with eye-gouging, rage-inducing excerpts, and your feelings, comments and opinions (are you noticing a theme? (nesting yay!))
And now, dear PPCers, I turn the thread over to you. Please post. And frequently. -
Contact sometime? by
on 2017-12-15 03:02:00 UTC
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Hey Thoth, I've been hoping I could catch you around sometime, since I've been searching the board for your E-mail address and haven't found it. Thought I'd try to give you a shout sometime since it was your suggestion to try out Neocities, which I'm setting up as my new home. Since I can't use Discord I remain around here, although I'm cautious and I tend to watch what I say.
I've added my new E-mail address (I've changed providers again) to my key. https://tripledes.neocities.org/tripledes-public-key.txt
Although you mentioned it jokingly, I use vi and I use tabs.
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... so I realised... by
on 2017-12-14 18:09:00 UTC
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... that I was about to make a post that could be summed up as 'be more like Huinesoron, I'm awesome'. Because I am nothing if not puffed-up. So I didn't do that.
Then I decided to do it anyway, because now it's ironic.
Be More Huinesoron: A PPCer's Guide
-Never post a sentence when you can post three paragraphs.
-If you read a thread, reply to it - even if you don't have a clue what's going on.
-Everything is better with bullet points.
-Don't choose between linking, quoting, and summarising - do all three!
-Remember your past. Forever. And refer to it constantly.
-They call it a trailer - you call it an excuse for madcap theorising.
-Tomash is not to be agreed with (even if you agree with him). He stole Ozerbord, and Plort Is Life.
-Speaking of which, Plort Is Life. Never trust anyone who slights Baron Huinesoron.
-Disagreement just means you haven't used enough words yet.
-Periodically concoct grand plans to revitalise the Board. Abandon them before they have a chance to work properly.
-Never get over anything.
-A picture is worth a thousand words. That means a picture plus a thousand words is worth... more.
-Chatrooms are out to get you. Brood on it.
-You don't have to post stories often, but when you do, end them with a promise of a sequel. Actual sequel is optional.
-If you read it, review it.
-Never be afraid to learn too much about something new and then bore everyone with it.
-Always sound like you'll bite people's ears off if they disagree with you (even though you won't).
-Refuse to accept any kind of authority. Just post like you have it anyway.
-If you don't know, ask. Then ask some more. Never stop asking.
-50% of your posts will get no reply, 20% will receive only one-liners, 10% will be completely misconstrued, and 10% will spark discussion that peters out immediately. But the last, golden 10%... live for that. It will be better than you can possibly imagine.
hS
(Now I've got that off my chest... yes, at some point I will contribute something of substance to the thread!) -
How to Be More Twistey (not recommended at all) by
on 2017-12-16 23:38:00 UTC
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(Ah, your guide explains a lot, hS. }:P
Here’s mine.)
How to Be More Twistey (not recommended at all):
PPC:
-Post on the Board as frequently as possible! Maybe even reply to stuff that you don't need to reply to!
-Try to hide your PPC activity from your local powers that be and delete your history of the Board and Wiki. Act all paranoid whenever they get suspicious.
-Be one of only a small number of people who edits the Plort Wiki outside of Plort "season". Add a ton of new stuff to it that nobody agreed to but you're doing it anyway and just letting them refine it because you trust them.
-Make lots of PPC memes using Walfas and Makemegoogly.com (because you don't have an Imgur account or anything and hS loves the googly eyes.)
-Spend the time between Badfic Games “seasons” planning out what you're going to write next year and overthink the new fake alter-ego.
-Realize that that nightmarish thing you thought up probably shouldn't be in the Badfic Games and is in fact worse than C-brian.
-Be unconventional: censor things with hyphens. Like C-brian.
-Mock-argue/duel/etc with hS whenever possible because the two of you had a slight scuffle in the past and reconciled and you're using it as an opportunity to create a running joke.
-Have way too many agent ideas for the fact that you don’t have Permission yet. (Gerb derbit!)
-Only thoroughly double check your username to make sure you don't have a mini. Double check the rest, but more skimming-like.
-When you have a question answered, say "Okay, thanks" or something like that in the subject and then ask another question in the post so that nobody reads it and answers. (Sigh.)
-Try to recruit your friends. Fail.
-Wonder too much about how you'd look as a Mary Sue. Worry that you'd be blonde.
Writing/etc:
-Have a long list of personal tropes. Use them in the beginning but then start cutting them out as you revise.
-Write too many stories that are either about a hopefully-no-longer-a-self-insert defeating her personal demons or are angry subversions of your fantasy-obsessed, romance-obsessed, blonde-obsessed (but not in a bad way) childhood friend's writing tropes. (Sigh)
-When reviewing, review nicely. When mocking, mock so aggressively that you probably need to take a step back because you’re pushing the boundaries of PPC protocol.
-When creating games, have an addiction to making boss fights.
-Have an addiction to making secrets.
-Have an addiction to making secret boss fights.
-Value function over form, but design your characters before you write them.
-Have too many unfinished Sibelius scores.
-Have too many unfinished stories.
-Have too many unfinished anything that actually takes a considerable amount of time and effort!
-Harp on the seriousness of copyright and the importance of royalty-free content.
-Have too many ideas of things to put on your Newgrounds account and your YouTube channel before you even have either one of them.
-Still be happy that you're closer to having both than you've ever been. :)
Internet:
-Visit RationalWiki as much as possible and use it as the ultimate resource for weird beliefs on both the left and right sides of the political spectrum.
-When you're bored, go to Google Images and surf! After all, that's how you found the PPC! What could go wrong?! (Dun dun dun!)
-Curiosity has blown up in your face many times. Make it happen again.
-Have too many bookmarks (until you switched to Chrome and your bookmarks from Firefox all got deleted).
-Go to Incompetech and listen to royalty-free music more than you go to any other music site.
-Have a hobby of mentally MSTing dress-up games meant for young girls that gradually developed into an addiction and a need to tell some of your friends to stop implying that Barbie's Aura of Smooth is turning you lesbian/bisexual/queer.
Gaming (mostly Wolf 3D):
-Don't strategize. Just run up to the boss and shoot at it until it's dead.
-In the case you can't, try to get your dad's help and stop trying to beat the boss when he can't figure out the controls. (True story.)
-Game out loud, like Markiplier except less over-the-top.
-Run from a scary enemy that you’re actually going to win against if you use the above “strategy”, because it’s scary. (Also a true story.)
-Talk to the paintings and comment on every Suspiciously Shaped Room you walk into.
-Be really good at Fruit Ninja because you played it so much earlier in life, but then wonder why you aren’t still good at pinball by the same logic.
Music Is Life:
-Practice your instrument whenever possible. Feel guilty when you can’t.
-Mentally squee whenever you hear your instrument in a song (because mine is bassoon and that doesn’t show up audibly all that often.)
-Complain about people who don’t care enough about band to actually practice and behave in class.
-When your family is watching a football game, only care about the marching band and the cheese dip.
-Be glad that band jokes are one of the few things you can search up on Google Images that doesn't put you in danger of Seeing An Old Familiar Face. (Dun dun dun again!)
Life:
-React in a negative way to making any sort of mistake, ranging from cringing and dwelling on it for months to completely freaking out and dwelling on it for decades.
-Exaggerate your nope/ahh moments by running from the person/hiding under the table/looking like you've been completely shell-shocked (and you have.)
-Be confused when people still like you a lot even after you did something stupid. Write it off as charisma. Suddenly realize that charisma =/= good person, with A Particular Example in mind. (Dun dun dun again again!) Freak out in your head and literally get an itchy upper lip.
-On a similar note, make as many references/comparisons/invocations of said example without calling him by name. If necessary, use euphemisms. (Sigh)
-Have the following reactions to said example and his followers: anger, fear, morbid fascination, WTFork, and more fear. More fear/fascination and less anger the higher up you go on the chain of command from those Neo idiots all the way up to the example himself. More WTFork the more occult it gets.
-Make jokes about people who talk about the example too much or too favorably in the company of hS being destined to be hit with a frying pan.
-Realize that you yourself fall under that category at this moment. Duck even though hS is nowhere near you IRL.
-Be proud of your brunetteness, flat-chested-ness, and lack of interest in getting contacts. Because your appearance is the one thing you don't ever worry about.
-Realize that this post is probably too long. Do nothing about it, in fact, make it longer over the course of your edits to it.
-Sign your posts with "-[name here]." In my case, that's "-Twistey". -
Takes a lot to be a twistedwindowpane (nm) by
on 2017-12-20 09:09:00 UTC
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Including writing too-long lists. :P (nm) by
on 2017-12-23 14:44:00 UTC
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The Easy way to be more Novastorme. by
on 2017-12-16 00:37:00 UTC
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1) Lurk
2) Randomly appear and make semi-useful comments/puns.
3) Disappear for a random amount of time no one can guess.
4) Repeat.
Optionals
5) Use numbers. Maths is important and so is reminding people.
6) Constantly worry if you're talking about yourself too much and shut up in case you're alienating people.
7) Promise you'll write something in the next year and never get around to it.
8) Play video games, recommend video games then get sad when no one plays the same video games as you.
10) Occasionally miss things. Even more occasionally realise you missed things before you post and correct it.
11) When in chat SPaG comes second to getting your point across. You can always edit things, but if you lose your place in the conversation it means you'll have to go back to point 1).
12) Swear you'll get better and then forget an hour later what you were getting better at.
13) Always listen to music. It helps.
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How to Neshomeh by
on 2017-12-15 14:37:00 UTC
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- Double-check everything. The time you don't double-check is the time you will be utterly, laughably wrong. In fact, triple-check.
- Fear failure, but fear success even more. Consequently, get nothing done.
- Want to do all the things, suffer decision paralysis. Consequently, get nothing done.
- Be baffled when people still think you're a level-headed, with-it, confident person.
- If all else fails, edit the wiki.
- Spend inordinate amounts of time on wiki articles and projects meant to elucidate the masses. Inevitably suffer frustration and disappointment when nobody notices. Keep doing it anyway.
- Use a smiley that no one understands anymore. {= )
- Crackers don't matter, and there is never a bad time for a Farscape reference. {= D
- There is no problem that can't be solved with more and better words.
- Everyone needs your advice whether they want it or not, no exceptions.
- Re-read your own work. This is to a) actually remember what happened, and b) because you are secretly self-centered and enjoy it.
- Pretend really hard not to be so self-centered. Maybe pull it off?
- Write extremely slowly. Publish a mission maybe once a year or so.
- If you get into a new thing, get really into it. Pursue it until you are in danger of burning out. Then drop it and move on to the next thing. Come back later.
- Once you commit to something, never let it go ever. Even when it's long past time most people would have moved on and not felt bad about it. Torture yourself with every incomplete project and swear you'll finish it eventually, really.
- Honestly believe that most people are good and pretty much just want to live their lives in peace, despite evidence to the contrary.
- Embody the Unitarian Jihad name of Sister Boot Knife of Looking at Both Sides of the Question. Never outright disagree with anyone when you can temporize instead.
- Waste ridiculous amounts of time trying to find that one word you know exists but can't quite remember. (Temporize. Which I'm still not sure is quite the word I wanted.)
- Occasionally withdraw and don't talk to anyone for a week or so with no explanation. Apologize later.
- When editing, obsess over typography. Hyphens and dashes are the best and nobody else appreciates them like you do.
- Real life is the annoying but necessary distraction from the important stuff in your own head.
... Yeah, that's a good start. {= )
~Neshomeh
- Double-check everything. The time you don't double-check is the time you will be utterly, laughably wrong. In fact, triple-check.
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Two crucial things I forgot. by
on 2017-12-17 18:07:00 UTC
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- Tea is more important than food. Ensure blood-tea level does not drop below 25-30%. No other beverage is required.
- OOH, KITTY! {8 D
~Neshomeh runs off to make friends with the kitty.
- Tea is more important than food. Ensure blood-tea level does not drop below 25-30%. No other beverage is required.
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How to be like Thoth by
on 2017-12-15 11:31:00 UTC
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-*Puffs up chest*. If you could use an emote, use an emote. Even if it's a bad idea or unnecessary.
-Technical references nobody gets should be as common as SIGSEGVs from dereferencing pointers with random values.
-References to ancient computer history nobody knows are a good thing. Don't think of it as confusing people, think of it as showing the Ignorant Masses the Good Word of Symbolics.
-References to ancient videogames are worth 20 zorkmids each.
-Use exclaimation points a lot!
-...use ellipses even more.
-Give out excessive numbers of hugs.
-Say you'll write things and then never actually do.
-Say you won't write things and then do.
-Constantly get shipped with your friends.
-Pretend to be annoyed about this.
-Make Tomash very angry about some Horrifying Horror you just found in programming.
-...Or just tell him about PHP again.
-Don't get involved on the board very often.
-If you're involved in a discussion and you don't have at least one comment nobody's replied to on each response, you're not trying hard enough.
-Never preview your posts. Never check to se if your HTML works. Post corrections. Never check if the corrections work, correct the corrections.
-The more time you put into a post, the less likely it is to get attention.
-Constantly try to get people to play Quake 3 deathmatch with you. You will never succeed.
-Why finish your programming project when you can... not?
-Why work when you can... not?
-Why not be on Discord when you can... not not.
-Possess a burning, fundamental hatred of ABO deep in the depths of your soul.
-There is never a bad time to reference TTS. For you see, I... am Rogal Dorn. And I am Adorable. (You read it in his voice, didn't you Nesh? =D)
-Never miss an opportunity to do something silly. Even while doing something serious. -
Nesh wasn't the only one (nm) by
on 2017-12-16 00:27:00 UTC
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... Yes. Yes I did. {X D (nm) by
on 2017-12-15 13:42:00 UTC
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Be More Scapegrace: The Official Handpost by
on 2017-12-14 20:25:00 UTC
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- =] is your only face
- Angery react only
- Is mostly asleep?
- Iximaz is Bes Frend
- Beta everything
- Correct v little
- Mostly just tell jokes
- Rule Discord w. an iron fist
- May not include ruling, the Discord, ironing, or f-movingonveryfast
- Flag?
- FLAG!
Congratulation! You am now fully prepared for life as Board Weird Person! A Spacegrape is You! =] -
XD Y'all're awesome, and I support more posts like this by
on 2017-12-15 09:13:00 UTC
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Though speaking of flag: I can has changed flag? Please? I did a comment, but I think it got buried. I'd love to have the changed version to
lead my Plortish armies withwait do I actually have Plortish armiesI should probably figure that outuse in an overdue Plort wiki page update!
(Yes, I also, uh, haven't replied to hS yet about updated heraldry. I started. I truly did. Then I was tired and Chanukah started. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it shhh)
(In my defense, I actually was tired and it actually is Chanukah and just all the good things. Including absolutely ridiculous sufganiot. I completely support the new and occasionally weird creativity of the sufgania industry. I've got to try some of the non-traditional ones.)
Anyway. Can has flag? :)
~Z
PS: But no bad feelings for missing it. It's a thing that happens. Okay? *Gives the Scape a...hrm...a SUFGANIA made with...wow, anything you like on pastry. I've seen *M&M*s on them now. And green frosting. For reference, the traditional type is a fried ball of pastry dough filled with strawberry jelly and dusted with powdered sugar. That's it. Now they seem to come with anything and everything. I saw some *cut almost in half with frosting in the middle* the other day. At two separate bakeries. It's ridiculous and I love it, though I don't think I can get behind the cut in half ones as much...* -
Flag? Flag! by
on 2017-12-15 17:16:00 UTC
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Just like it says in the handpost! =]
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Oh dear god MY SIDES! (nm) by
on 2017-12-14 18:40:00 UTC
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Subthreadjack: Constitution Section 4 by
on 2017-12-14 17:48:00 UTC
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(I will make a direct reply to this at some point, but I want to squeeze this in at the bottom.)
As part of this drive, I feel like Section 4 of the Constitution is currently... worryingly anti-posting, or at least not very pro-discussion. So I put together a rough draft of what I'm calling the Discussion Amendment, replacing the current Section 4 entirely. Comments, improvements, corrections and contradictions thoroughly welcome!
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Section Four: On Thy Topics Of Discussion
16. The PPC community thrives on discussion, and wastes away in its absence. When you post a thread on the Board, try to do so in a way that encourages discussion and interaction - and when you reply, do the same thing!
17. That doesn't mean the PPC is Serious Business! Silliness and insanity are welcome here — even encouraged. Feel free to leave your sanity at the door. Most PPCers do.
18. On the other hand, serious discussion is ALSO welcome, nay, encouraged, here. Odd, ne? "Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."
19. Don’t worry about your interests being too eclectic for anyone else to be interested in — history has proven time and again that there probably is someone who shares your interests. And on the off chance that there isn’t, there’s somebody who wants to start!
20. There is no Article 20.
21. Randomness is seldom a bad thing, as long as Da Rules are followed. (For an example, see Article 20.)
22. Feel free to tell us all about stories, websites, news, or anything else you think will be of interest to the PPC at large. We're always in dire need of entertainment, intellectual stimulation, and good fanfic. And don't just drop us a link - wax lyrical on what you've found, why it's interesting, and any questions it creates. Don't be afraid to quote (but don't make the quote stand in for your own words!).
23. The PPC has always been about having a good laugh at badfic, so feel free to talk about it, and post links if you find something you think is worth sharing (but not just links... see Article 22). If there's a thread about badfic on the top half of the front page already, go ahead and add to that - otherwise, feel free to create your own! (And when replying to a thread about badfic, or reviewing a badfic, please remember Article 2!)
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Can we streamline it? by
on 2017-12-14 21:19:00 UTC
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I feel like 16-19 could be one rule on the subject of what we find desirable/acceptable for the tone of Board posts.
Actually, setting what we want as RULES makes me feel like the document may have hit the point of becoming bloated. Like... maybe all these details are better covered by the supporting document FAQ: The Board?
(Should I/we go help you work on revising that?)
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Slightly more streamlined version by
on 2017-12-15 19:40:00 UTC
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- Anything you feel might be of interest to the PPC (e.g. stories, news articles, websites, trebuchets full of pie) is on-topic for the Board. Don't worry about your interests being too eclectic either — someone's likely to be interested.
17. Please try to word your posts in a way that encourages discussion and interaction. We like those things. If you're posting links, you're encouraged to expand on them somewhat.
18. That doesn't mean the PPC is Serious Business! Silliness and insanity are welcome here — even encouraged. Feel free to leave your sanity at the door. Most PPCers do.
19. There is no Article 19.
22. If there's a thread about badfic on the top half of the front page already, go ahead and add to that - otherwise, feel free to create your own! (And when replying to a thread about badfic, or reviewing a badfic, please remember Article 2!)
(( This has quickly been edited together. Commentary will be needed. ))
- Tomash
- Anything you feel might be of interest to the PPC (e.g. stories, news articles, websites, trebuchets full of pie) is on-topic for the Board. Don't worry about your interests being too eclectic either — someone's likely to be interested.
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Cleaning this up a bit. by
on 2017-12-17 10:33:00 UTC
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Section Four: On Thy Topics Of Discussion
16. Anything you feel might be of interest to the PPC (e.g. stories, news articles, websites, trebuchets full of pie) is on-topic for the Board. Don't worry about your interests being too eclectic, either — someone's likely to be interested.
17. The PPC community thrives on discussion, and wastes away in its absence. When you post a thread on the Board, try to do so in a way that encourages discussion and interaction. If you're posting links, you're encouraged to expand on them somewhat.
18. That doesn't mean the PPC is Serious Business! Silliness and insanity are welcome here — even encouraged. Feel free to leave your sanity at the door. Most PPCers do.
19. There is no Article 19.
20. The PPC has always been about having a good laugh at badfic, so feel free to talk about it, and post links if you find something you think is worth sharing. If there's a thread about badfic on the top half of the front page already, go ahead and add to that - otherwise, feel free to create your own! (And when replying to a thread about badfic, or reviewing a badfic, please remember Article 2!)
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I'm not 100% happy with the 'on-topic' language in A16, but it does get the point across. I've re-captured my own text for A17, though maintaining the point of Tomash's. And I've slipped the 'let's laugh at badfic' part of A20 back in.
One thing I'm probably not supposed to admit to being pleased with is the loss of the rider to A19. I always thought it was funnier just standing by itself. ^_^
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I like how this has come along. by
on 2017-12-17 18:17:00 UTC
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Perhaps the examples for 16 could be "stories,
news articlesfandom news, websites,trebuchets full of piesalmon cannons"?
Because while I like the trebuchet full of pie and we should definitely test it out sometime, the salmon cannon is a random, silly, awesome thing that actually happened. ^_^
Also the spaced em dashes/hyphens should either be unspaced em dashes or spaced en dashes throughout the article.
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I was trying to keep that very broad (re: news articles) by
on 2017-12-17 21:37:00 UTC
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but I can see why you'd want stuff like net neutrality posts to be on-topic.
The examples list is a non-trivial thing.
I approve the change to salmon cannons though.
- Tomash -
*off-topic? by
on 2017-12-18 18:59:00 UTC
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Net neutrality isn't fandom news, right?
I think just 'news' might suffice - we trust the members of the PPC to have their own filters in place on what's of interest to the PPC. That gives us 'fiction, news, websites' as the actual examples, which covers almost everything (plus salmon cannons to catch the odd things).
I'm still not too happy with the 'on-topic' language; perhaps something like 'If you feel something might be of interest to the PPC (...), go ahead and bring it up.' That gets rid of the Board-specific language, too, which is a plus in my book.
We also have an outstanding amendment (the Harassment Amendment) which is only a few votes shy of being adopted - we have six (five if we discount Desdendelle; I think Aegis is still around?), and I feel like 10-12 would be sufficient for adoption (assuming no-one objected to it). Since this one is less of a serious change, 6-8 would suffice; with broad approval from Huinesoron, Thoth, Tomash, and Neshomeh, we're already halfway there.
Once no-one's trying to edit this draft any more, and once the flurry of people actually posting has settled down, I'll throw both up to the top of the Board for discussion and ratification.
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How's this? by
on 2017-12-18 20:18:00 UTC
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- If you feel something (e.g. a story, some news, a website, a salmon cannon) might be of interest to the PPC, please go ahead and bring it up. Don't worry about your interests being too eclectic, either — someone's likely to be interested.
On votes, given that we have about 50 people, going off the census count, I'd say around 10-12 votes with no objections is sufficient to pass something. That's about how many it took to elect Delta and Maslab mods on the Discord, and also how many we needed to impose a no-longer-temporary block a few months back, from what I remember.
- Tomash
- If you feel something (e.g. a story, some news, a website, a salmon cannon) might be of interest to the PPC, please go ahead and bring it up. Don't worry about your interests being too eclectic, either — someone's likely to be interested.
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*thumbs up* by
on 2017-12-18 22:00:00 UTC
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((Sorry I've not really been participating—I've been out of spoons for the last few weeks and anything not light and fluffy is... yeah. Looks good, though.))
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Looks good to me. by
on 2017-12-18 20:36:00 UTC
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I agree with 10-12 as a general thing, but in this case we're basically looking at a minor tweak - the Constitution already says this, we're just removing language that suggests posting is discouraged, and streamlining the structure. So 6-8, or 8-10 if you really want to push it.
Hopefully, a dozen people will jump in and ratify both amendments (or several will say no), and there will be no question about it. :)
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*approve of (nm) by
on 2017-12-17 21:49:00 UTC
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Call for clarification. by
on 2017-12-17 09:32:00 UTC
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Does this mean that there is no Article 20 and no Article 21, or did you leave them out here because you don’t want to change them?
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22 should've been 20 by
on 2017-12-17 09:35:00 UTC
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I forgot to fix the numbering.
(and that'd then replace the section in its entirety)
- Tomash -
I in't in charge. by
on 2017-12-14 21:29:00 UTC
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I cobbled this together from what was already there in the space of 20 minutes or so; I'm not wedded to any particular approach.
hS -
Well then, we'll need more opinions, won't we? *hard stare* (nm) by
on 2017-12-15 14:52:00 UTC
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Write a proposal, and post a thread: we'll give feedback. (nm) by
on 2017-12-15 15:48:00 UTC
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Too formal right now. by
on 2017-12-15 16:25:00 UTC
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At the moment, I'm just vaguely concerned about making the Constitution too formidable and want to know if other people share that concern. {= )
~Neshomeh -
In that case... by
on 2017-12-15 17:30:00 UTC
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I'm not overly concerned with hS's proposed revisions. Maybe move the stuff on Other Things To Post to the FAQ? The thing about badfic should probably be there, although that should maybe also go to the FAQ.
If that happens, the constitution maybe should reference the FAQ. I am unsure. -
Nesh in't in charge either... ^_~ (nm) by
on 2017-12-15 16:21:00 UTC
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That seems to be a substantial improvement. by
on 2017-12-14 18:38:00 UTC
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I approve!