Subject: Re: Sex or Die?
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Posted on: 2009-10-24 12:17:00 UTC
Exactly what it sounds like. You have to have sex or you'll die, for whatever reason.
Subject: Re: Sex or Die?
Author:
Posted on: 2009-10-24 12:17:00 UTC
Exactly what it sounds like. You have to have sex or you'll die, for whatever reason.
I've just found the reason for why the crappy romance novels seem alike.
http://romance.fictionfactor.com/articles/romance101.html
*headdesk*
It's practically showing a sign to budding original fiction writers saying, "Write Original Suefics! Get Rich!" Maybe this is why I don't read many romance novels? I know this is original fiction and all, but... Erg. Does she even realize what she is saying?
…where they would take turns reading a really bad book and whoever kept a straight face the longest won. Verification or corrections, anyone?
I have a newspaper cutting about a re-enactment of the Inklings' readings at a literature fair on the noticeboard above my desk. Just a sample from her book Irene Iddlesleigh: "Speak! Irene! Wife! Woman! Do not sit in silence and allow the blood that now boils in my veins to ooze through cavities of unrestrained passion and trickle down to drench me with its crimson hue!"
I think it was mostly stuff written by Amanda McKittrich Ros.
It looks like fun. I don't know any other games like that, though.
There is money in it!
My friend and I wrote a Mills and Boone style short story. The beautiful heroine, and the devestatingly handsome (actual words from the text there) hero ended up with tongues down each others throats before actually exchanging a word of dialogue... No we are not sure how that happened either!
that sort of story can be amusing if read out in a silly voice!
to read romance stories that way, isn't it? In fact, I crack up when I try to read online romance fics that don't have a trace of logic in them. Or if they have purple prose. I can't really help it. They just doesn't make any sense to me. (Either that or the years of being roommates with a sister who read romance novels aloud to her boyfriends have finally caught up with me.)
I stopped when I found one in which the HERO mistakes the Mary-Sue for his brother's mistress, who he wants to punish for... something... and decides that the best way to punish her is to rape her. Yes. This is the hero, who thinks that women should be punished by RAPING THEM? So he does, and finds out that she is a virgin b/c she bleeds (like they always do) and then says, "Oh no! I guess you're not the woman I wanted to rape after all! I'll make it up to you by continuing to rape you!" and does, and then she decides she likes it...
And then John was a zombie.
Oh, this travesty really exists? Shit, merde, scheiße, mierda, and stercus! Do not want! Divide by zero! TO THE MUSÉE DES UNIVERS PERDUS WITH IT!
*takes a deep breath and counts backward from twenty by threes*
and also 粪, 배설물, and дерьмо.
but that's normal in Romance Novel Land. Some, ahem, "experts" of writing romance novels say that that sort of thing shouldn't be shied away from; the others say that those sort of things shouldn't be and the book should be happy and care-free. As someone who used to be addicted to online romance novels until I realized their cute little way of taking over my life, I don't care for either view point. Either the book is logical, or it isn't.
... is that kind of crap is usually written by women, who really should know better than to glorify violence against women. I won't say that anyone who thinks that kind of thing is a good idea should experience it and learn differently, because NOBODY deserves that (though I maintain that that principle should be applied to the writers who inspired the Wiki's Dubious Lube page, or similar) but they really ought to be told why there's a problem. Or at least there should be disclaimers on books like they have on fanfics saying "I know things don't work this way in real life but fetishes don't necessarily have to bear any resemblance to real life and I'm aiming at that particular market", because otherwise I can't help but worry if they're actually that oblivious.
Remind me to sit you down and have a chat about the concept of privilege sometime.
if you were ever online at the same time I am. :P
Lies. We're both online right now. :P
I was just going by what was mentioned in the context. Romance novels never feature a woman raping a man who instantly falls in love with her. Some fanfics do, though, and I'm just as freakin' disturbed by those ...
planned to write a scene where a woman tried to rape her husband (before being knocked out), but the fic got cancelled before I got there, the rewrite isn't as Sueish as the original and no other fic I have fits (barring one, possibly, but I've got a ton of other stuff in that series already).
And why don't romance novels ever have a woman be the hero? Saving the man? That's yet another stupid thing I find about them.
... except the female character did it because she was suffering from a Sex Or Die scenario and her husband-by-arranged-marriage wouldn't do it. He killed her when he found out. It was damn hard to get the balance between "she had reasons" and "just because she's the woman doesn't make it a good thing".
What's that?
My excuse was that she was a recently turned werewolf and, in the days leading up to and just after the three days of full moon, werewolves have an overpowering urge to mate (I think I based it off a few legends I read somewhere, but I'm not sure).
Exactly what it sounds like. You have to have sex or you'll die, for whatever reason.
How widespread is this?
Of course, I can't mock it. I have a "Have Sex Every Few Hours or Go Completely Loony" but she's a nymph (all nymphs, male or female, have the issue), so it's possibly okay.
In Laburnum's fic, it's based on real life ferret biology. I don't know about others that use Sex or Die in their fics, since I usually avoid them.
My mistake for not specifying - if he was conscious he couldn't really fail to notice.
not rational and then there's not rational. He was five. What the hell was he going to do?
And I'd like to say sorry if I've offended anyone. I have very extreme views. I either really agree or really disagree with something, rarely anywhere in the middle. I've been told (though not quite sure if it's true or not) that it has something to do with my Asperger's Syndrome. Regardless, sorry if I've offended anyone. I don't mean to do that.
You do know having Asperger's doesn't give you a free pass to speak without engaging your brain, right? And your "extreme" views could actually be construed as pretty offensive?
Also, I apologised as well.
*is cowed*
Sorry. I wasn't saying my Asperger's was a catch-all excuse. I said I wasn't even certain if it was to blame.
I'm... I'm sorry. *vanishs*
Don't use it as an excuse. Have the courage of your convictions, and argue them as your own. If you want to argue, I'll happily have that row. But don't use your Asperger's as an excuse for your own thoughts.
... wanted to point out that where you're erring is assuming that someone in this situation can make the same rational judgements as someone not in this situation :)
a general statement to everyone.
I post regularly in the "Battle of the Rapefaces Redux" thread on Twilightsucks.com, but really. RapeIsLove doesn't exist...
am I the only one nauseated and hypnotized by the icon at the top of the screen? Weird.
but the point I'm trying to make is that I don't think people should always expect them to be formulaic. (And I'm ranting. :| Oh well.)
I read the essay three, maybe four, years ago. When you also know that I can't remember what I had for supper last week or that I can walk into a room and instantly forget what I had planned to say five seconds before, you'll understand the chances of me remembering the essay title and author name from that long ago.
I object to the Secondary Character and Story Basics bits!
No story should be formulaic! None, I say! None!
Now you got a /theme song/ playing in my head. Again. At least it's a good theme song, or selection thereof.
Now you got a /theme song/ playing in my head. Again. At least it's a good theme song, or looping selection thereof.
What sucks is that there's only about 23 kinds of stories out there (correct me if I'm wrong), so all stories follow some kind of formula.
I must say, though, they should be kept as original as possible.
Now that I think of it, calling it "original" fiction is giving them too much credit. Let's just call them the cliché-over-sappy-formulaic-Mary-Sue-infested Romance novels, alright?
So with you on that, I don't think there is a single romance book in my shelves!
I do own some romance novels. However, they both are the tamer, quieter, more original versions of their wild cousin romance novels. They are also both written by Meg Cabot, the only romance novel author I can generally trust to write good fiction, even though she does tend to ramble and have pretty characters. However, I don't think her plots are all that formulaic, because at least she puts a thought behind her stories and usually doesn't just make them about Main Character A and Main Character B. And she writes stories in different ways, tends to make her stories lovably funny, and she leaves out the graphically nauseating romance stuff! Yay! Needless to say, these books keep me sane after I see book after book in the bookstore romance novel section (as I pass it on my way to the fantasy section) entitled with something like "His Baby", "Fire and Ice" or "The Handsome Stranger". :)