Aside from the opening scene, with James Kirk being born, which I have to admit I found a bit cheesy. *shrugs* Could just be me; I have a low cheese tolerance.

The rest was *awesome*. I feel sorry for Archer's dog, though :P

I've loved Star Trek: TNG, DS9, and Voyager, but I saw a few episodes of the Kirk series (and the newer Enterprise one) and just didn't like it. Too young, I guess; it felt contrived. So I went in with fairly low expectations.

They're sort of... gone, now. :D

I think that time-travel was the only reasonable way to make a movie like this without having it nit-picked to death by obsessed fans, and with that in mind, they did a really good job. I think we have to bear in mind that these Professional Scripwriters don't know crud about derivative writing like we do - we've seen how horrible it can be and are jaded by iffy but can-be-done-well concepts like time travel AUs. When that particular revelation came in the film, I grinned and thought something like, YES! That works everything out!

Of course, that gave them leave to demolish Vulcan, which made me very, very unhappy.

I don't like the womens' uniforms either - I would NEVER wear one - but it has the excuse of a 60s canon, so... *shrug*

As for Spock/Uhura, the most volitle issue... it didn't bother me, but if they'd left it out I would've been just fine. The sense of Uhura being put in a relationship because she's the only lead woman is annoying, and as far as I see, they could've picked Sulu or Scotty as easily as Spock, and only chose the latter because he's the most important character. It could've been worse. Actually, I went looking for Spock/Uhura fics to see if any fanfic writer out there could sell me the pairing. So far, they haven't, but maybe they would be more likely to if I found Spock as attractive as the fanbase does.

Nero... wouldn't think of himself as an Evil Overlord, but that aside; no, definitely not. He made many classic mistakes.

If it were a fic, I would caution the author to be more traditional, but then, that is my style, and it has been done quite well. Admittedly, the music and the great visuals hit me a lot more strongly than a description of the bridge as being "clean and white", or whatever.

(And yeah, why did no one start this thread sooner? *is puzzled*)

It was great, and I think the reboot/AU idea is fantastic, because it's going to give the whole Trekverse a new lease of life.

If it was a fic I would applaud it!

The girls having no pants is standard Trek - it is the FUTURE! Therefore we wear skimpy skintight clothing BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE! (and presumably those who wanted to wear baggy pants were burnt at the stake, or something, I dunno) :P

Time-travel ... good or bad, is hardly a *new* thing in Trek ... Voyager, anyone?

No, he hasn't seen it. But then, if he'd seen it, he might have won, and THEN where would we be? O.o

I believe that was supposed to be an open-cast mine, rather than a canyon. I know, it got me too the first time I saw the film. I was all 'wtf, enormous cliffs?' and then the second time I took notice of the whole chainlink fence and stuff and went 'OH! it's a mine!'

Cheers for the tip :P

- Trojie, still wildly overexcited about this movie and therefore jumping up and down and being giggly and OTT.

I really enjoyed the movie. Like you, I don't know enough about the original series to make a detailed comparison, but it did sound like everything was explained by the "time travel creates AU" thing. Which is really awkward as a plot device. But still.

What I want to know is if they plan to remake the original series. Some of you might be having aneurysms at the thought, but give me a minute. We have better technology now. We have better science, better special effects, and, let's face it, better plot devices than "Kirk gets the girl." We come armed with the knowledge of how the five-year mission goes, so we have the potential for a series with more scientific intelligence and better internal consistency. This could be really cool. I just don't know if anyone is actually planning this, or if they could carry it off.

I'd probably watch it just to see what happens to it.

If the movie were a fic, it would depend entirely on the quality of the writing. If it's well-written, there's no reason for us to bother with it.

~Neshomeh, who decided that if Leonard Nimoy is okay with it, then so is she.

I did not particularly like Uhura's character. She felt to me like she was just the typical 'strong female character' and she didn't actually do anything. But again, that's just my opinion. I did like the rest of the movie and Nero's ship was scary.

The no-pants thing...well, it's canon. At least for that part of Starfleet history. The time-travelling Romulans probably didn't have much impact on military fashion.

Time travel as opposed to an unexplained retcon? Good thing. Time travel that lets Nimoy!Spock give the Vulcan salute to Quinto!Spock? Good thing. Time travel as opposed to just working with the canon that was already there? Meh, not sure.

Yes, but if someone had shown Nero the Evil Overlord List, he would have killed Spock, and that would have made me very sad. And it would have been a very short movie.

The parts of the movie that deviated from canon were all explained as part of the time-travel thing, which was certainly preferable to just disregarding canon without explanation. And I felt that they did a fairly good job at staying true to what the show really meant.

But I plan to. My mom's a Trekkie minus the cosplay, so I'm bound to. I just know that I'll be spending the entire movie reminding myself that Spock's not gonna slice people's heads open.