Subject: I demand to see justification!
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Posted on: 2008-12-15 20:45:00 UTC
Disembodied heads cannot be pregnant!
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Donna Noble, daughter of the Scrapyard Valeyard by
on 2008-12-14 19:01:00 UTC
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The Noble Family Secret by Lady Clark-Weasley of Books reviews
the paradox has been completed, there's nothing protecting her and he has come to claim her. but there's a force stopping him and Sylvia and Wilf will do anything to protect Donna even if that means calling the Doctor and telling him their secret.
Complete - Doctor Who - Fiction Rated: T - English - Drama/General - Chapters: 9 - Words: 12,875 - Reviews: 81 - Updated: 9-8-08 - Published: 8-31-08 -
Check out the profile, guys by
on 2008-12-14 23:40:00 UTC
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Looks like a lot of her stories could use sporking, just from skimming through them. Most of them have bad grammar and bad het. And the author doesn't seem to quite understand certain aspects of canon...*twitches*
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Wow... by
on 2008-12-14 23:59:00 UTC
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Way to alienate most of the fandom there:
pairings i hate: 10Martha, 10Donna (it is not a romance, it is a friendship), 10Reniette (ick!), 10Jack, 10Simm (they hate each other and they're half-brothers, why the hell would they have a relationship?) 10River Song (for all we know she could be Jack after a sex change), 10Astrid (you know i get the feeling that someone decided to make 10 a man-whore), Jack/John, Jack/Owen, Jack/Jack, Gwen/Rhys, Snape/Lily (it's a friendship not a romance), Snape/Harry, Snape/Lupin, Snape/Sirius, Draco/Harry, Draco/Hermione, Draco/Ginny, Harry/Ron, Harry/Cho Harry/Hermione, Jasper/Bella, Jacob/Bella, Emmett/Bella, Allan/Will, Allan/Djaq, Robin/Much and Guy/Marian.
I don't know about the Robin Hood and Twitlight pairings, but they 'hate' most of the most popular Ten and Jack pairings (including Ten/Jack) and several of the most popular (and vocal) HP pairings.
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whiskey tango? by
on 2008-12-15 05:15:00 UTC
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Ten and the Master are *what*?! Pretty damned certain the Doctor told Martha she'd been reading too many fanfics (or watching too many films, whatever) when she suggested they were brothers.
He's right on the Ten/Donna, I'll give him that.
But who is this "Reniette", and why is it so icky to imagine him/her with the Doctor? -
Girl in the Fireplace by
on 2008-12-15 18:05:00 UTC
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Reinette, a.k.a Madame de Pompadour, was featured in an early episode of season 2. Without getting into major details, the episode was written like a love story between her and the Doctor, though it doesn't work out in the end. I'm not exactly sure why she's described as icky; the actress who plays Reinette is ridiculously good-looking, and I found her a witting and interesting character. However, I've heard that certain 10/Rose fans bash her for getting in the way of their favorite ship--er, pairing, that is.
While I'm no fan of 10/Donna myself, I kind of resent that she just dismisses people who do. If someone writes a good 10/Donna fic, I'm willing to put up with it, even if it's not my cup of tea. It's rather difficult to get along in a fandom if you can't learn to agree to disagree. -
Durn straight by
on 2008-12-15 00:57:00 UTC
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For a while the relation between the Doctor and the Master was in doubt, as in an earlier story the producers had intended to imply that the two were brothers. However, in Sound of Drums (NewWho, natch!), 10 explicitly says that the two were friends at school and not brothers.
And "hate" is a little too simplistic a word to describe their relationship, although it's probably an element...
By the way, what's with the "for all we know River Song could be Jack after a sex change" comment? I don't quite see a connection between the two characters. -
It's not a theory I've seen before, that's for certain by
on 2008-12-15 01:00:00 UTC
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And I hope never to see it again. I'm in the 'Jack is the Face of Boe' camp myself, although I am stuck on how a human(oid) can turn into a tentacled head in a jar.
TROJIE!!!! Biology would be nice here... -
it's the Galactic Clap, clearly (nm) by
on 2008-12-15 05:16:00 UTC
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Ditto by
on 2008-12-15 02:00:00 UTC
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I'm a Face of Boe girl myself. I figure, over millions and millions of years all sorts of things can happen. While Jack can't die, it doesn't mean that he can't physically change. Possibly it's an effect of the Time Vortex stuff. Perhaps as he gets older and older the Time Vortex starts to wear off, it starts doing weird things to his body... or else he becomes a giant head for the sake of life support or something. I know, I know, you'd think that by the time he needed life support Jack would be ready to die, but wasn't Boe on life support in Gridlock?
Oh God--it just occurred to me that if Jack doesn't die eventually, he'll probably end up as a Toclafane. Brrr. -
*Biology flies in in spandex and a cape to save the day* by
on 2008-12-15 01:15:00 UTC
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... and is stumped. A humanoid cannot become a tentacled head in a jar. Well, not with science as it is now. I mean, you could cut the head off a humanoid and *put* it in a jar, but that doesn't explain the tentacles. Does this head, y'know, live? Or is it a preserved specimen?
As to the sex-change, well, those happen. I don't know the canon or the details though, so I can't comment any further.
*Biology goes away to change out of the ridiculously uncomfortable spandex* -
not only does it live... by
on 2008-12-15 16:23:00 UTC
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...It also has a baby. But if it is Jack, well, he's been pregnant despite being a man before, I'm sure he can find a way to get pregnant while not actually having any organs or genitals.
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And now I am having horrible mental images of tentacles as genitals. -
I demand to see justification! by
on 2008-12-15 20:45:00 UTC
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Disembodied heads cannot be pregnant!
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Re: I demand to see justification! by
on 2008-12-15 20:53:00 UTC
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Trojie, this is the Whoniverse, science doesn't always make sense there, although it is usually physics that gets screwed over and not biology. Just puzzle over the Ood for a bit.
Pads, I didn't need to think about a pregnant giant head in a jar, thank you very much, but I suppose that I'll take it as payback for the stuff I've linked you to in the past. -
blame Uncle Rusty, not me! (nm) by
on 2008-12-15 21:59:00 UTC
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Pads told me about the Ood, I think by
on 2008-12-15 20:56:00 UTC
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I'm still up in arms over it/them.
Either Classic Who made more sense or I was less ready to question what the media told me when I was nine. New Who just PUZZLES me. -
Re: Pads told me about the Ood, I think by
on 2008-12-15 21:35:00 UTC
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What about the Abzorbaloff, Adipose, Raxacoricofallapatorians, Carrionites or.. oh heck, any of the New Who monsters bar the Daleks, Cybermen and Autons who are all carried over from Classic Who?
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that's got to be a challenge! by
on 2008-12-15 22:10:00 UTC
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*mentally runs through a list of all Nu-Who episodes*
If I mention those medical nanite thingies in Empty Child I'll have to explain them and Trojie will have kittens.
The Mighty Jagrafess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxarodenfoe was pretty cool, if a bit oozy, and they didn't really go into any science with it, so it passes.
There's always the werewolf from Tooth and Claw. Been a while since I saw it but I do sort of remember being hideously annoyed by how little sense it made.
Worst baddy award has to go, I think, to the Girl with the Scary Pen of Doom. And don't knock the Adipose. They're far too cute. -
argh, the Adipose by
on 2008-12-15 21:37:00 UTC
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Don't get me started! That's not how fat works! Argh!
... and that's not how parthenogenesis works EITHER. -
*backs away slowly* I shouldn't have mentioned it, should I? (nm by
on 2008-12-15 21:39:00 UTC
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It's okay, I just don't see why aliens can't be *sensible* by
on 2008-12-15 21:42:00 UTC
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And sensible's quite a broad definition; see Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart's 'Evolving the Alien' for OMG THE MOST AWESOME BOOK EVAR on the subject. They, notably, do NOT postulate aliens made of sentient fat.
They *do* postulate aliens made of hydrogen gas bags, though, which is NEAT. -
Sounds interesting... by
on 2008-12-15 21:45:00 UTC
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Do you know if it's available here in not-so-sunny England.
glares at thermometer and rain that will be ice by the morning. -
it's hell to find by
on 2008-12-15 22:13:00 UTC
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I'm after it for Christmas, so been trying to track it down so I can harass my brother. Waterstone's don't have it. Found a paperback copy on ebay, I think, for £8 but that's no longer available. Amazon's got it in hardback for twenty quid: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolving-Alien-Science-Extraterrestrial-Life/dp/0091879272/ref=sr11/275-6668681-2933730?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1229141389&sr=1-1
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Hmm by
on 2008-12-15 22:26:00 UTC
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I'll look in Derby and Burton Waterstones tomorrow then. I might get lucky.
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doubt you'll find it by
on 2008-12-15 22:38:00 UTC
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Given that I tried their website, and it says they don't have a single copy in any of their shops throughout the entire country. But there's no harm in going in and asking about it. Let me know what they say?
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I'm not sure, but I'd hope so by
on 2008-12-15 21:49:00 UTC
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They're the two scientists who collaborated with Pterry on the Science of the Discworld books, and believe me when I say that they do NOT need the professional novelist to make their book entertaining and readable. It might be a little hard to find; it took me a while to track down a copy, but I'm in the arse-end of nowhere here, so in the UK you might have better luck.
I HIGHLY recommend it! -
Well... by
on 2008-12-15 18:39:00 UTC
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Nothing says he couldn't have wanted to keep them. Or that he couldn't keep them.
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Stop. Just stop there. by
on 2008-12-15 18:10:00 UTC
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You're giving me hentai-esque images. Creepy tentacle porn hentai images. In Doctor Who. That's so wrong in so many ways.